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eridani Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue Dec-07-04 11:08 PM
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Poll question: Is Severus Snape a vampire?
There are quite a few hints to that effect scattered throughout the series.

Book 1. Prof Quirrell comments that Snape is always 'swooping around like an overgrown bat.' Snape spends summers tracking dark side bad actors, so could the 'vampire' Quirrell ran into over the previous summer vacation have been Snape? Garlic probably wouldn't work against a vampire (or half-vampire) with skills to make potions to suppress symptoms. (Reason for Snape's interest in and competence in the field in the first place?)

Book 3. A very telling conversation between Lupin and Snape when he is grilling Harry and Ron about the Marauders' Map and the illegal excursion into the village. Snape commenting on the map "did they get it from one of the original authors," one of which is Lupin. Lupin's final words to Harry and Ron "I need a word about your vampire essays," after they had been assigned a werewolf essay by Snape.

Is it possible that the conversation between the lines was
Snape: Give me one good reason why I shouldn't out you as a werewolf, starting now.
Lupin: Just try it, and I'll out you as a vampire two seconds after.


In The Prisoner of Azkaban movie, the incriminating Snape/Lupin verbal duel was left out, but Snape closed all the windows in the classroom when he was subbing for Lupin!.

Book 4: One of the students commenting that since they had already had a werewolf teaching Defense Against the Dark Arts, it might be cool if they had a vampire next time.

Book 5: Snape does not take meals with anyone else.
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Pithy Cherub Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed Dec-08-04 12:13 AM
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1. Intriguing...
Thought Snape did the breakfast thing with all the professors in the morning. Also Snape walks the halls a lot during classes which is why he always catches Harry & Draco. The Quidditch games are during the day.

On the other hand he is a Potions Master. Snape also in the first book talked about knowing how to put a stopper in death. He's very retro Goth with his basic black every single day. Dumbledore discovered 12 uses for Dragon bloodwith Flamel maybe this was one of them.

Still thinking - will vote later. btw is your user name like the Mirror of Erised? :)
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eridani Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed Dec-08-04 01:37 AM
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2. Yes,he is at the table,---
--but does he eat? Don't think he can avoid daylight entirely, but a Potions Master should be able to whip up 3000 SFP sunscreen easily. Greasy hair = doesn't much care for running water.

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StrongbadTehAwesome Donating Member (623 posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri Dec-10-04 01:58 AM
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5. why teach in a room with open windows then?
It may just have been a director fluke (though Rowling supposedly gives them inside knowledge on the series' end so they can foreshadow accordingly), but the Potions room in the 1st movie has big windows. I remember because I thought it was weird at the time, 'cause the Potions room and the Slytherin dorms are in the dungeons. It made sense in the 3rd movie when they showed the school built into the side of a cliff in such a way that even part of the dungeon could have windows.

But still, if the vampire thing was true, why would he teach in a room with windows?
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robbedvoter Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu Dec-09-04 02:57 PM
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3. No, but Voldemort is!
Edited on Thu Dec-09-04 03:04 PM by robbedvoter
The measures he took against death before Harry, "he is not quite human". all the scenes with Harry are at night....
Snape is quite the mortal, skilled at legillimency and occlumency. There must be a lot we need to find about him - such as - how comes Voldemort didn't consider HIM a traitor for not showing up at the roll call, and how can he still be effectively helping the Order?
Other than that, we see him a lot during the day....
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Pithy Cherub Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu Dec-09-04 04:38 PM
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4. Now that one is a stunning observation!
JKR said it was important that we know what steps Voldemort took to become immortal.

Quirrel had some trouble with a Vampire in Albania. That may be how Voldemort binds people to him.

Firenze talked about it in Book 1 - the individuals that would drink the blood of a unicorn have but a half life.

The burning and blistering of Quirrel as if touched by Daylight.

It all fits.
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eridani Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri Dec-10-04 08:24 AM
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6. But Voldemort did consider Snape a traitor--
"one who has left me forever--he will be killed" I think refers to Snape.

He'd have to take potions to control his symptoms, thus enabling him to deal with daylight. Doesn't mean he enjoys it, though.
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robbedvoter Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri Dec-10-04 05:21 PM
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7. No, I am pretty sure that refers to Karkaroff - who ran away
Snape was a spy - and as such still has their confidence - hard to figure after his spats with Quirell
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outraged2 Donating Member (306 posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri Dec-10-04 06:44 PM
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8. I think eridani is right....
Edited on Fri Dec-10-04 06:44 PM by outraged2
"... One too cowardly to return... he will pay. (Karkaroff) One, who I believe has left me forever... he will be killed, of course..."(Snape)

Snape was and is still a spy, and I wonder how things are going to pan out for him. I wonder how tight Snape really is with Malfoy et al and what his fate will be. He is in a terrible spot as a 'double agent'. I wonder how much of their confidence Snape actually has. If Voldemort says he has to go the deatheaters will have a tough time convincing him that Snape is on their side I think, and will have to choose.... dangerous game for Snape.
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MaraJade Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Mon Jan-10-05 01:00 AM
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19. Yikes!
I forgot this one.

I quess this is a major clue as to who might be killed in Rowling's
next book (The Half-Blood Prince, due out in July).

JKR did say that someone dies, but she didn't say who.

My guesses are:
Dumbledore
Lupin
Hagrid
but I guess I'll have to add (choke!) the Potions Master
to the list.

Most HP sleuths agree that the former DE threatened with death was
Snape. I sure hope he's not killed off. . .

But as far as him being a Vamp. Nope. First JKR said he wasn't; but
according to the way magic works in the Potterverse, Vamps cannot have wands (Snape does), and Snape does a great deal of moving about
in the open sunlight. He even refereed two Quidditch games where he
was on broomstick up in the air in the open daylight. Couldn't do that if he was a Vamp.
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uppityperson Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sun Apr-10-05 06:08 PM
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21. too sexy for my shirt?
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robbedvoter Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu Dec-23-04 10:21 PM
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9. JKR was asked and said no
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robbedvoter Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri Dec-24-04 04:51 PM
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10. Here's the quote:

http://www.mugglenet.com/jkrwbd.shtml

Megan: Is there a link between Snape and vampires?
JK Rowling replies -> Erm... I don't think so.
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Pithy Cherub Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri Dec-24-04 05:18 PM
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11. The big time Potter Professionals go here...
This is for educational (written by academics and scholars) purposes and it is the most extensive Potter Cannon I have seen - it is tremendous down to the Chocolate Frog Cards. Can be fun too! JKR has given them a prestigious award as well.

http://www.hp-lexicon.org/index-2.html
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robbedvoter Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri Dec-24-04 08:19 PM
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12. I am Boris the Bewildered there. JKR is Classic Squid 592 (I think)
Edited on Fri Dec-24-04 08:30 PM by robbedvoter
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davidinalameda Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue Dec-28-04 03:50 PM
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14. what a fantastic site!
oh my gosh

I can spend hours on here

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davidinalameda Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sat May-14-05 12:09 AM
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24. Flitwick is part goblin?
was this ever revealed in the books?

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Pithy Cherub Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sat May-14-05 04:49 PM
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25. The goblins are going to be palyers in the Wizard War.
Edited on Sat May-14-05 04:51 PM by Pithy Cherub
SS gives a sort of intro to Goblins. Flitwick is described as a goblin-like in features but never uses the word goblin in the book. Must recheck... Interesting he is the Charms professor - and that will loom large.

History of Magic discusses all the goblin wars - the Order needs an emissary to the Goblins to have them fight on their side. Here comes Flitwick!

My guess is Flitwick's background was addressed directly by JKR. Don't think he has been named a wizrd of the month. But JKR let everybody in the last couple of months know more about him.

You have encouraged me to go back and read the hplexicon. :party:
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eridani Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed Jan-05-05 07:36 AM
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15. Well, I guess that settles that
Wonder why all the oblique references, though.
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Nikepallas Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sun Dec-26-04 07:32 PM
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13. Too be honest I think he is going to be the red Herring of the books
I would not be surprise that somehow some way he sort of reconcile things with he and Harry. Look at his actions in book number 5. I think his past relationship with Harry's parents and the cloak of doubt he is under as to if he truly was trying help the old order or not really made him bitter. And I can't image the relationship getting any worse so I think we might see a surprise ally (in massive form this time- - not just his role in book 5)to Harry.

p.s. I also think his not taking meals with anyone goes back to his fear of being poisoned. I don't think it's as bad as Moody.
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robbedvoter Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed Jan-05-05 04:37 PM
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16. JK Rowlings dislikes him. She likes writing about him, is interesting
but wouldn't like to meet somebody like him. That seems to go against the "redemption" possibility. I love Alan Rickman too, but I buy it that Snape is 100% loathesome.
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eridani Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu Jan-06-05 02:51 AM
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17. Dumbledore keeps saying--
--that our choices are important, not birth or other extraneous circumstances. Nasty people like Snape can and do fall out on the right side ethically, and nice people can wuss out.
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robbedvoter Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri Jan-07-05 08:49 PM
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18. he may have done some good in the past - and recently for OOTP
Edited on Fri Jan-07-05 08:50 PM by robbedvoter
but what he almost did to Sirius in POA drowns it all. he knew he was innocent but was willing to see him dementor kissed out of petty vindictiveness....Bad choice, IMO.
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MaraJade Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Mon Jan-10-05 01:27 AM
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20. But you are forgetting that
Sirius tried to feed Severus to the werewolf (Lupin) when all of
them were fifth year students at Hogwarts.

It's a long, convuluted tale, but Sirius simply despised Snape "because he existed," and Harry's father James (who WAS an
arrogant git)was prone to start fights with Snape to provide Sirius
with "entertainment" at school, as it were. In short, Snape was the
school geek who was singled out of harrassment and abuse by the "cool" kids (Order of the Phoenix).

The hatred that Snape has for Black is justified. Not only did Black
attempt to murder Snape, but Black showed little regard for Lupin, as
Lupin would have been destroyed if he had killed Snape while in
werewolf form. I can easily understand why and how Snape would have
believed that Black was a murderer--after all, he DID try to kill Snape. Furthermore, Black was from a family full of dangerous dark
wizards and Voldemort supporters (Black's own brother, Regulus, was
also a Death Eater; and his cousin, Narcissa, is married to Lucius
Malfoy). All of this is canon stuff.
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XemaSab Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue Apr-12-05 07:18 PM
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22. Here's the deal:
Snape is the unnamed wizard who alerted the Order that the Potters were going to be killed, thereby leading to the Potters' selection of Pettigrew as their secret-keeper.

This is also the reason why Dumblebore trusts him.

As for Snape being a vampire, it's something I'm open to. He's been described as swooping around like a bat a few times.
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Ilsa Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue May-10-05 08:17 AM
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23. Snape is outside during the day during the Quidditch tournaments
though. I think he would have been very conspicuously absent to the readers if he was never there to support Slytherin House.
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