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LWolf Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed Oct-10-07 08:02 AM
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I saw "The Seeker: The Dark is Rising" last night.
I have to admit that I went in not expecting to like it, as I'd read an interview with the screen writer discussing his "adaptation."

I didn't just "not like it." I was appalled. This was absolutely the WORST book-to-film adaptation I have ever seen. I thought the "Earthsea" movie made from LeGuin's novels was bad. This was worse. There is no character development, no coherence, and way too many changes in characters and events.

*****SPOILERS BEYOND THIS POINT; DON'T READ BELOW IF YOU DON'T WANT TO KNOW******



















He "americanizes" it by making the Stantons american immigrants to england. He makes Will 14 instead of 11, full of puberty-driven confusion. He makes one brother an instrument of the dark. He makes the son who died, making Will the "7th son," Will's twin who was kidnapped, and then produces him at the end for a happy ending. Merriman Lyon is terribly done; you don't get the sense of who he is at all, and he spends his time roaring at Will to "do the job he was born for." Perhaps changing the number and ages of siblings is not a big deal, but he gives Will a teen-age crush on Maggie and allows her to "tempt" him. There is no explanation of the signs, or logic to how they are found. The sixth sign is not a sign at all, but turns out to be Will, so that he can give a brave, dramatic speech in the final confrontation with the dark. There is no reference to Arthurian legend, and Will is portrayed like some sort of superman-like superhero with special "powers." Ms. Greythorne is younger and livelier than she should be, and she and merriman spend time arguing with each other, alternately criticizing and defending Will.

I saw it with family members who had not read the book. They were silent throughout the film, but on the way home, one said it was "terrible," one compared it to "the attack of the killer tomatoes," and one spoke at length about the inept storm sequence, in which "the bouncy balls of doom" fall over and bounce over the snow.

In googling info on the screenwriter, I found this interesting article:



The Dark Is Sinking: Book-to-Film Adaptation of Susan Cooper's The Dark Is Rising Angers Fans

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During filming in Bucharest, Romania there was a joke on The Dark is Rising set that only three things have been changed from the original 1973 novel: the nationality of lead character Will Stanton, changed from English to American; his age changed from 11 to 13; and everything else that happens in the story. A solo quest by an 11-year-old is no longer solo; family values have been deemed out of date — the happy, loving Stanton family rewritten dysfunctional; a series of five books bereft of a single love interest has been re-imagined with the lead character chasing the fairer sex, pleading in the trailer “I can't save the world! I don't even know how to talk to a girl!” Angered, disgusted fans are reporting little interest in their hero’s new, most ordinary of plights.

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More contentious than Will Stanton’s womanising ways, the film has changed the very source of the magic in a most magical of series — all traces of Cooper’s beguiling, haunting blend of English, Arthurian, and Celtic mythology removed, recast as hip hop and Humvees. Bemoaned one reader, aggrieved at the trailer’s depiction of a modern day Merlin wielding a mace, this most fascist of adaptations is tantamount to Peter Jackson taking the hobbits out of Middle Earth and getting rid of the elves. A series that the author said almost wrote itself, arose mist-like out of the English landscape of her birth without conscious imagination or invention, appears to have been rewritten completely without imagination, rewritten as just another action and love story. This tale of coming of age could now only be from a more present, soulless Age.

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The Dark is Rising screenwriter has never met Susan Cooper. He freely admits as much, saying that as far as he was concerned he had her blessing to do whatever was needed. To give Hodge some credit the screenwriter is reportedly the only member of the production team aside from English born Amelia Warner (contrived love interest Maggie Barnes) who has actually read the book. But judging from the scale of the rewrite, that would have been the last time he strayed between its pages.

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And what of Golden Globe-winning, Royal Academy-trained lead Ian McShane, sole, flickering hope of quality to fans very much fearing the worst, an actor whom would only need a fraction of the Shakespearean presence displayed in the acclaimed Deadwood series to succeed as character Merriman, a modern-day Merlin? Surely he has read Cooper’s books? Sadly the answer is no — in fact he had never even heard of them.

“I don't think they've been very faithful to the book.” McShane admitted when interviewed, lack of enthusiasm obvious. “I don't know how many of you've read the book. I know they sold a few copies, but I couldn't read it very well. It's really dense. It’s from the '70s, you know?” Signs hardly encouraging from the man playing the greatest wizard of all time.

So why are all involved making this film, if not to honour the author’s original art, furthermore give shape, breathe life into the imaginings of millions? Are cast and crew the slightest bit interested in recreating just a small amount of magic in the most magical of mediums — film? If the man playing Merriman is typical, the aim in The Dark is Rising was slightly lower than magical. Asked what about the project specifically interested him, Ian McShane replied with refreshing, although hardly endearing honesty: “The cheque. As it always is.”


more:

http://blogcritics.org/archives/2007/07/26/172619.php

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Matilda Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed Oct-10-07 08:59 AM
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1. The Producer is David Cunningham, who directed The Path to 9/11.
His father was a founder of Youth With a Mission, an interdemoninational
Christian evangelizing group.

You have to wonder how much someone like that would understand of the
whole premise of Susan Cooper's wonderful series of books. I would
suspect, not much.

Some info on Cunningham here:

http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/David_Loren_Cunningham
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LWolf Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed Oct-10-07 08:18 PM
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4. I'm sure that's a factor;
evangelical christian take on mythology as old, or older, than theirs can be a little limited.

I don't think the best director could have done a good job with the screenplay written by Hodge. It's unredeemable, imo.
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XemaSab Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed Oct-10-07 06:07 PM
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2. All the more reason for me to stay away from The Golden Compass
I reread the Dark is Rising last year, and I was appalled when I saw the trailer for the film. :(
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LWolf Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed Oct-10-07 08:15 PM
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3. I'm sure I'll see the Golden Compass.
The family is looking forward to that one too, although they've read the book this time.

I'll let you know if it's safe. ;)
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XemaSab Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed Oct-10-07 09:28 PM
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5. I'm thinking even if it's good...
I almost wish I hadn't seen the HP movies, especially the first two. It's hard for them not to taint your reading of the book, and Golden Compass is SO well described I can see it perfectly. I guess I just don't need to see the movie to visualise it. :P
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Matilda Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu Oct-11-07 02:07 AM
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7. I've only seen two Potter movies, and I didn't enjoy them at all.
Too much has to be left out, of necessity, so you end up with little more than special effects.

They're definitely for children only, IMO.
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LWolf Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu Oct-11-07 07:08 AM
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12. You can probably say the same for this one.
The only one in our group that liked the movie was my 7 yo grandson. He thought it was "cool." He would, not knowing the real story and being attracted by all the action and special effects.

He listened to the discussion on the way home, and asked me about it again after school yesterday. I told him about many of the changes, and he kept asking me to tell him more about the "real" story. I offered to read it to him instead, and he agreed. He eagerly read the first 2 chapters of "oversea, under stone" while he waited for me to finish chores and join him.

7 is a little young, imo, to understand the whole thing, but he's determined.
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LWolf Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu Oct-11-07 07:04 AM
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11. As a teacher AND an avid reader:
As a teacher, I know the research that shows that good readers are able to visualize what they read, and that poor readers DON'T visualize. Which is why we are actually trying to teach them to do so.

As an avid reader, I know that what I visualize is so strong, that no matter how good a film adaptation is, if it conflicts with my "vision," I won't like it.

I think that the film adaptation of LOTR was, for the most part, well done. With a few glaring exceptions.

The first several times I watched it, though, I struggled with Merry and Pippin. According to my "vision," the actors who played them should have switched roles. Enough years and viewings later, they've replaced that original visualization.

The film version of TGC will be interesting, to say the least. I wonder what input Pullman has had.
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LWolf Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sun Dec-23-07 07:25 PM
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13. Well, I saw TGC this week.
It was much better than "The Seeker," although that's not saying much, lol.

Pros: Characters and setting were very well done, especially Lyra.

Cons: The movie races through the plot so fast that I don't think a viewer who hasn't read the book can get a full picture.
Iorek's voice...nothing wrong with it, but it took me a bit to accept it as his. This is minor, though, relative to the REAL shocker:
The end of the book is not included. There is a relatively "happy" ending with Iorek, Lyra, and Roger headed away from Bolvangar in Scoresby's balloon. That's it.
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XemaSab Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu Oct-11-07 01:50 AM
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6. The Rotten Tomatoes reviewers want to compare it to HP
:rofl:

Considering that the Susan Cooper book was written 30 years earlier :eyes:

http://www.rottentomatoes.com/m/seeker_the_dark_is_rising/
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LWolf Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu Oct-11-07 06:55 AM
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9. We actually discussed this on the way home.
My (adult) son suggested that, in addition to Americanizing the story, Hodge was attempting to "potterize" it, as well.

Both Potter and this series have similar archetypes, and the same theme, but Will Stanton is not Potter, and the Stanton brothers are not the Weasley brothers.

Although the comparisons in this movie are inevitable.
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Reader Rabbit Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu Oct-11-07 06:48 AM
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8. Thanks for the review.
My fears are confirmed. Our sci-fi/fantasy book club at school is currently reading The Dark is Rising, and we had plans to check out the movie once we'd finished. Now I don't think I want to subject the kids to that. Maybe it will be out on DVD by then, and we can just rent it and MST3000 it!

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LWolf Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu Oct-11-07 06:57 AM
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10. That's an idea.
I wrote a review for my class, read it to them, and opened it for discussion yesterday. We had a rich discussion, and those who go to see it will know ahead of time that they aren't getting the real story. After the discussion, more of them are requesting the books, so I may have to pick up another set or two.
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