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postatomic Donating Member (478 posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue Nov-16-10 02:23 PM
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Would you open the Door and go in?


Just curious. The only info I'll provide you is that I had to (very carefully) maneuver my way through a 5 foot high barbed wire fence with many layers to get to this place. I ripped my pants half way going through the nasty fence.

Some of you (most of you?) would have probably stopped at the fence and thought "only an idiot would try going through this fence". But, for those of you that got through the fence. Would you open the door and go in?

How far would you go to get a photograph?

Thanks in advance for your responses.


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CaliforniaPeggy Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue Nov-16-10 03:04 PM
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1. Without a lot more information, I would NOT enter.
Why? It's dangerous. I'm not into risks that don't tell me what is waiting.

I cannot make a move without more information...

Did you go in?

Welcome to the Photo Group, btw!

:hi:
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postatomic Donating Member (478 posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue Nov-16-10 10:30 PM
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6. Yes, I did go in
Thanks
:hi:

I didn't have any other information than what you have. The door with the 'Danger' sign attached.

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alfredo Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue Nov-16-10 03:29 PM
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2. The younger version of me might have. Too old, too slow for such adventures.

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postatomic Donating Member (478 posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue Nov-16-10 10:37 PM
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7. I'm not sure of the reasons why
But I have lost my 'Flight Mechanism'. (the whole fight/flee thing) I take many risks and go places I know I shouldn't go to take a picture. I understand the too old point. Lessons learned and such. I guess I'm ignoring these lessons.

Thanks
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alfredo Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue Nov-16-10 11:39 PM
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8. Better to beg forgiveness than ask permission?
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postatomic Donating Member (478 posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed Nov-17-10 12:20 AM
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14. I never apologize for my behavior or actions
And when my only entry to a particular place requires permission I will obtain it.
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alfredo Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed Nov-17-10 11:58 AM
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16. I was in my political activist mode there. I found that if I
act like I know what I'm doing or that I am supposed to be there, I'm usually not challenged. As far as private property is concerned, yes I do ask permission.
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postatomic Donating Member (478 posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed Nov-17-10 01:20 PM
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17. No worries
Edited on Wed Nov-17-10 01:21 PM by postatomic
I know what you meant. My lack of fear isn't always a good thing and I know that I could be arrested (or worst) some day. I do lots of Night Photography and I'm always by myself. I go places that most would avoid at night. But I get images that others never would. There is an America that is vanishing as I type this and I want to capture it before it's too late.

I've also had a few close encounters but they've always ended up being pleasant even though they didn't start out they way. The HUGE gent in a small town in Kansas wasn't happy about me taking pictures of a building that had just burned down. We talked. I discovered that a good friend of his lived there and he was in the hospital. I expressed my sincere good wishes for his friend and assured him that my pictures were totally benign. We parted on friendly terms.


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alfredo Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed Nov-17-10 01:42 PM
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18. I am just getting over my reluctance to photograph people.
I really pushed myself this summer. It helped. I like getting right up into people's faces. Usually I show the image to the person and ask if they feel it is OK to keep it or if they want me to trash it. They never say to trash it. If I take a picture of a kid, I show the image to the parent.

I use a compact camera, the Canon G10, but soon I am moving up to a compact APS-C or M4/3. DSLR's are too heavy and seem to intimidate people.














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postatomic Donating Member (478 posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed Nov-17-10 03:37 PM
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20. Those are very very good
I'm glad you got over your reluctance to photograph people because it's apparent you have a remarkable gift for this. And I would add that the photos say quite a bit about you, the photographer. The people are obviously very relaxed and comfortable with you. Candids are easy. These are not.

I don't know what the 'APS-C or M4/3' are, so I'll turn to google to help me out. I have quite a few cameras and I just went Good Will Hunting yesterday and picked up a couple of old film cameras that I'm going to try to modify. With my senior discount I only spent about $3.00 for both cameras so if I screw up the cameras I'm not out a bunch of cash. The film will cost more.

I'd say your Canon does quite well but I can understand your desire to acquire a camera that may suit your needs better.

Don't stop taking photographs of people. You have a rare talent for it.
:hi:
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alfredo Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed Nov-17-10 05:57 PM
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21. Thank you. I want to move up because my camera only
returns good images at 80 or 100 ISO. It also has a lot of shutter lag, meaning it is more difficult to catch the moment.

I like my old film camera, but digital allows me to take 100 to 200 photos at a time without shelling out a lot of money.

I just got back from doing a black and white shoot in two cemeteries .

Can you get Ilford black and white film in your town? I recommend it.
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postatomic Donating Member (478 posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu Nov-18-10 11:22 PM
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22. I have some Ilford but I've been using the new Kodak films
And I do more digital now than film. Yea, shutter lag and focus lag can slow ya' down. I can understand the need for speed.
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alfredo Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri Nov-19-10 12:41 AM
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25. Shutter lag is the bane of compacts. I'm off to
bed so I can catch a foggy morning.
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WannaJumpMyScooter Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri Nov-19-10 07:54 AM
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27. your shutter lag is so bad
you have to wait hours for it? wow, that is bad
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alfredo Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri Nov-19-10 11:13 AM
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29. I ain't gettin' any younger
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Celebration Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue Nov-16-10 06:08 PM
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3. probably I would go in
I'd have to know more too, but I rarely let a sign stop me from doing whatever it is I want to do. I might glance around my shoulder and then open it gingerly. If someone wants to tell me it is dangerous they are going to have to give me some reason WHY it is dangerous.
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postatomic Donating Member (478 posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed Nov-17-10 12:08 AM
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10. An adventurer
I've been places where there were 'Danger' signs but it was quite apparent what the danger was. This one was a complete mystery to me.
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HarveyDarkey Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue Nov-16-10 07:48 PM
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4. Were there any signs on the fence indicating danger?
A sign wire tied to a door handle isn't very "official".

Wire cutters can preclude the pants ripping BTW.

What kind of a facility was it?
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postatomic Donating Member (478 posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed Nov-17-10 12:10 AM
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11. No other signs anywhere
But I didn't walk the entire parameter. My first thought when I heard the pants rip was wire cutters.

I have to get a few more pics up so you can see the place.
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Mira Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue Nov-16-10 09:46 PM
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5. The fence already indicated that there was no invitation.
If I'd braved the fence I would have had some business there, no?
So yes, I'd go in, ready to hit anyone who threatens me with my camera.

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postatomic Donating Member (478 posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed Nov-17-10 12:14 AM
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12. I am very respectful when I trespass
I never intentionally damage anything and I never take anything. Especially in places like this. I am very very respectful. I didn't fear someone jumping out at me. I was about 200 yards from a Super Fund site and I thought the danger might be related to that.
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WannaJumpMyScooter Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue Nov-16-10 11:47 PM
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9. hell, yes, and I did... here is what was in there
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postatomic Donating Member (478 posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed Nov-17-10 12:16 AM
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13. Too funny
:thumbsup:
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NV Whino Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed Nov-17-10 11:34 AM
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15. No lock?
You bet I would open the door. Would I go in? It would depend upon what I would see on the other side.
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postatomic Donating Member (478 posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu Nov-18-10 11:24 PM
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23. Another adventurer
:-)
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ManiacJoe Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed Nov-17-10 02:47 PM
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19. Open the door - yes. Go in - maybe.
Depends on what I could see inside.
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postatomic Donating Member (478 posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu Nov-18-10 11:44 PM
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24. Thank you for all the responses.
It's interesting how an image can invoke different responses. Actually being there might yield completely different responses, but all you had to go on was just the image and a tiny bit of background.


This was above the door:



The 'G' has other meanings but essentially it means 'God'. This was in a Freemasons Cemetery. I've been to Cemeteries all over the heartland. What was unique about this one was the number of very large monuments for children, and the very different expressions of loss for these children. This was something unique for most graves I've seen with children from the late 1800's.



Would knowing this have changed your response?

Oh, and the only 'Danger' I could see was that there wasn't any Toilet Paper....



I don't advocate trespassing. It's one of those "do as I say, not as I do" things. It can be dangerous and taking risks isn't always a wise thing. However, if you come across something that looks interesting but you don't want to trespass, give me a call.

Again; thanks for playing along with this. It was very nice to be greeted so damn nicely. I really appreciate that.
:hi:
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WannaJumpMyScooter Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri Nov-19-10 07:53 AM
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26. maybe that is dangerous
could be the entrance point for Masonic zombies?
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postatomic Donating Member (478 posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri Nov-19-10 01:51 PM
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30. Now, that would have been interesting
But no Zombies. Maybe the Holy Grail is buried there?

I usually try to research Urban Legends on the various cemeteries I visit. Almost all have some funky ghostly stories. The cemetery where I took this seems to have more credible haunting stories. Sightings of children appearing and disappearing in a grove of trees that is in the middle of the cemetery. The headstone marks the place where 3 children were buried. There were a couple of toys left on it. I only took the picture because of the Lightening Strike that carved it added a little more interest to it.



I take lots of shit for my interest in cemeteries. I won't bore you with all the reasons. The only time my SO gets nervous is when I head out by myself at night to do 'Light Painting'. This night kinda' sucked because there was too much moonlight. I think it was a 60 second exposure. I just used a flashlight to illuminate different objects in the image.



If I go back to the Freemason cemetery I'll keep an eye out for Masonic Zombies.
:hi:


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NV Whino Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri Nov-19-10 10:12 AM
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28. An outhouse in the middle of a cemetery?
How interesting.
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WannaJumpMyScooter Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri Nov-19-10 02:49 PM
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31. you gotta go
you gotta go
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