Can a vinyl storm door be painted??

[madmax]

3 years ago I bought a nice dark green vinyl storm door from Lowe's. We had it less than a year when I noticed it faded terribly. Went back to Lowe's to find out if it was defective but they said it happened a lot with that color and it was discontinued. They installed another one free. Same oval leaded glass but in white. Waaaaaaaaaaaa, waaaaaaaaa I want my GREEN door.

Can I paint vinyl? Is there a special type of paint for vinyl. Is there a special fade reisitant paint I should consider?

Oh well, if nothing can be done I guess I'll live but, I keep hoping that someone here knows how to make my day ;)

Thanks guys! :hug:

note to AZDem.... don't ask :crazy:

[NMDemDist2]

1. LOL n/t

[displacedtexan]

2. I painted vinyl shutters.

I sanded lightly to get some tooth (so the paint would stick).

Then I used an outdoor primer.

Sanded lightly.

Two coats of outdoor paint.

Two coats of non-yellowing sealer.

Worked fine for me.

[madmax]

3. Thanks... how long has it been?

Paint hasn't peeled or bubbled?
Are your shutters exposed to a lot of sunlight?

I appreciate your advice :hug:



'nother note to AZDem.... hehehehe thanks. Wait til I post my story about Pottery Barn's Slipcovered sofa/loveseat from HELL!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!

[Berserker]

4. They do make

a special paint now for Vinyl.

[displacedtexan]

6. It's been 3 years, and all is well!

Tons of sun almost all day long, too.

[NMDemDist2]

9. the crickets say *chirp chirp chirp*

i'm waiting.......

poor max

have you been catching the "beast" stories on the cooking group from me?? but i think we have called a truce (cuz I sure can't "beat" that 700 watt mixer into submission) :evilgrin:

[madmax]

19. lol ya nut!

I haven't seen them. I up to my eyeballs in projects. Some I'm doing, others I have to deal with co-ordinating the various specialty guys I'm trying to hire. I am so exhausted! Wonderwoman, I'm NOT.

post the link to the 'beast' stories. I'd need a laugh. I could probably find it but, my mind is mush. :P

[NMDemDist2]

21. here's a couple

http://www.democraticunderground.com/discuss/duboard.php?az=show_topic&forum=236&topic_id=5825

http://www.democraticunderground.com/discuss/duboard.php?az=show_topic&forum=236&topic_id=5692#5710

http://www.democraticunderground.com/discuss/duboard.php?az=show_topic&forum=236&topic_id=5592#5624

http://www.democraticunderground.com/discuss/duboard.php?az=show_topic&forum=236&topic_id=4197#4334

http://www.democraticunderground.com/discuss/duboard.php?az=show_topic&forum=236&topic_id=4362

http://www.democraticunderground.com/discuss/duboard.php?az=show_topic&forum=236&topic_id=4940#4951

[LiberalUprising]

5. Krylon®Fusion spray paint

is what ya need to use, I used it on a igloo doghouse and some outdoor vinyl chairs, I put 2 coats on it several years ago, used the dark green color.

No fading, peeling ect., and I am in Texas. You can find it at Sherwin Williams paint stores and some Home Depots or Lowes.

Krylon® Fusion is the world's first no-prep superbond paint for plastic. This revolutionary product makes life simple, again. With no sanding or priming, this product dries in 15 minutes or less. Fusion bonds easily to plastic, PVC, hard vinyl, resin and more creating a durable, professional-looking finish that won't chip, peel or fade.

Link below for product info
http://tinyurl.com/4n8d3

[madmax]

7. Oh man

Do I love you or do I love you. I love you BIG!!! :hug:

:loveya:

Is this a spray or paint on? Sitll love ya either way ;)

[madmax]

8. Home Depot person said...

Go to Sherman Williams and ask for Gel Stain - Industrial and Marine Coating. ??? I dunno. Tomorrow I'll stop at Sherman and ask.

I like the idea of the Krylon spray but, hate the thought of haveing to take the storm door down. Plus I don't have a garage so I'll have to do it in the driveway. Ah.... doin it in the driveway fond memories of decades ago :evilgrin: We need an emoticon for Dirty old Grandma's. :P

[LiberalUprising]

10. You won't have to take the door down

No, NEVER ask the 'guy at depot' ANYTHING! Trust me, you are better off using your own judgement. (No offense to any depot employess out there)

And the guy at Sherwin Willaims will usually sell you the most expensive stuff they have, which may or may not even work or which may be more work. ;-)

Although the marine coatings would work, in your situation it would be extreme over kill and much more costly and time consuming than it has to be. Most marine coatings require lenghty dry times.

Yes the krylon is a spray, I've painted many storm doors in place, all you need is a fairly still day, some masking tape and newspaper. (I use a masking gun and 9 inch paper)

Just tape off whatever you don't want paint on (the width of the newspaper is usually enough) and be sure to cover the area below the door as well, spraying is much faster you can second coat in minutes and you will get a better looking finish. If you have glass to tape off, use the blue masking tape, it's designed to be easy to remove from such materials.
Also be sure to tape off screens.

If you are painting the inside of the door as well, you can get plastic sheeting to cover up the open doorway (to keep paint from drifting into your house)

If you haven't used spray paint much, practice on a scrap of something similar to the surface you want to paint to get the distance and technique down so you don't have runs or drips. You might pick up a piece of vinyl siding or plastic for this.

A couple cans of paint should be sufficient for two coats on one side of a door and practice, you can always take back ant unused cans. Better to have too much than not enough.

BTW I am a painting and remodeling contractor and have operated my own business since '86 and have been painting for 30 years.

If you have any questions feel free to PM me.

[NMDemDist2]

11. thanks! it's great to have a real pro weigh in n/t

[madmax]

12. Thanks so much!!

Not only do I love you - I now want to have all your little Krylon's!!! ;)

The storm door is part of an enclosed porch so I'm not too worried about the fumes getting into the house. The porch has 5 windows so I'll keep them open. I'll follow your advice about taping off etc.

Are those spray can holders any good? You know the I mean, lol. The plastic gizmo that holds the can and instead of your finger pushing down the button the gizmo does it. I've used one for small quick paint spraying. Helps when the rheumatoid arthritis acts up.

[LiberalUprising]

13. Anytime, glad to help

On an enclosed porch you might want to cover up the entire floor, just in case. I made the mistake once of spraying the inside of an elevator door just covering the immediate floor area, spent a couple hours cleaning the floor with rags and paint thinner. Lesson learned.

I've seen those spray triggers before but have never used them so I don't know how well they work, you can try one on your practice run and see if it works for you.

Use a smooth sweeping motion (Start Left to right, then come back right to left for 2nd pass) and overlap about half the spray width for best coverage, go a little past the surface you are ainting with each pass to prevent buildup (apply THIN coats) work from top to bottom spraying the width of door with one pass, then come back the opposite direction with the next pass (don't stop in the middle of door). Several thin coats will work the best and will negate drips or runs.

Make sure the can is well shaken before use.

Some great tips here
http://www.rccaraction.com/rc/articles/htShake_1.asp


Good luck, let me know how it turns out.

[madmax]

14. That's the hard part....

Spraying THIN and evenly. I have a heavy trigger finger but, this will be worth doing right. Damn, too bad you live in Texas. I'm painting living room, dining, front and back porches and the storm door. I have to wait a few more weeks before I get to the door and the porches. Here in NJ it's still too cold to paint outside.

:hug: Thanks again Lib. DU is such a great place. I love it and appreciate your advice.

I book marked the links so when it's time I'll have the info ready.

'nother note to AZDem... that's why I said don't ask. It all started with pots and pans, a mixer, a new toaster, a semi-remodeling job on the kitchen. Now I'm painting and making window treatments. Yeah, I've lost it. I'm trying to keep busy and hope when I'm done the idiot has vacated the White House. Either that or I'll be broke and in the poor house ;)

[LiberalUprising]

15. It's all about rythym

Just practice on moving the can in a steady sweeping motion.

You'll do fine.

Too bad you live in NJ, I could use the work. :-)

BTW when you paint your LR, DR ect. Buy a lambswool roller cover and a "Purdy" (brand name) brush, they cost a little more but they hold more paint and don't spatter like the synthetics and the Purdy brushes make cutting in a snap. Also buy your paint at Sherwin Williams (May cost a couple dollars more per gallon, just ask for the A100 for exterior and the 400 series for interior, they will try to sell you the high dollar paint but we use the above almost exclusively and have never had a problem) the stuff they have at depot and lowes is crap, it's hard to work with and takes extra coats to cover.

And remember, there is no such thing as "one coat coverage", despite what the label says.

I agree DU is the BEST website by far on the net... intelligent, helpful people here.

[NMDemDist2]

16. on one of the myriad "Home Improvement" shows i watch (see max

what you started?) I saw what looked to be a great tip for new rollers, especially a lambswool one I should think.

take the blue tape (that you'd use on glass) and wrap it around the roller and then remove. Any loose threads/woolies will come off on the tape and not on your wall

[madmax]

17. lol I saw that too

These damn shows make me crazy!!!!

[madmax]

18. Lib honey

I could keep you busy for a month! What size trim brush should I buy for doing window trim. And slanted or not? I'm glad I read your post this a.m. I'm going to buy the paint and rollers etc. for the lr and dr today. I picked a color from Glidden - can Sherman match the color from their line?.

Oh yes. We never get 'one coat coverage'.

[LiberalUprising]

22. I would buy

the 3/4" or 1" inch nap lambswool roller sleeve and I use a 3" brush for everything, though a 2" brush may work better for you for the trim, the slanted brush would work well. The Purdy brushes make a crisp fine line for cutting in.

The easiest way is to paint the trim first, don't worry about getting paint on the wall cause you will cover it when you cut in the wall paint, if you have trouble getting a straight line, you can tape off the trim with the purple or blue tape after letting the trim paint cure a day or two. The purple tape has less adhesive than the blue and will work better on fresh paint.

Is your existing trim oil base?

If so then you will need to go back with an oil base, it won't stick and will peel off if you use latex over oil. A good way to check is to put a dab of latex on the woodwork, let it dry overnight, then if you can scrape it off easily with your fingernail you have oil base paint on trim.

Sherwin Williams will be able to match your color from Glidden, though usually it will take them a day to do it but it is worth the wait.

If you have the proper tools, painting is not that bad.

[NMDemDist2]

20. no worries there, I'm doing the same thing on the cheap

if i can't get it at the thrift store, I haunt ebay.

the only exception (obviously) is paint and I haven't quite got to that point yet.... we are going to do the painting this summer i think

hubby has been saving our tips for 3 months to get a new telescope and he's almost there (pretty impressive he has saved $800 in a couple months) and when the new scope arrives, the tip fund is going to my kitchen. I need paint and a new dishwasher. At the rate we save on tips i should have them both by May :bounce:

next stop..... the bedroom..... like most folks our private spaces are the last to get the attention to decor since we can shut the door when guests arrive. I saw a great idea on HGTV using a 5 panel door (from a salvage yard) as a head board we are going to try on our platform bed, we need some window treatments (i will find them at the thrift store or make them) some new art (also a thrift store shop) and I have convinced hubby color is a GOOD thing on walls :evilgrin:

Design on a Dime is my new favorite show LOL

[Stinky The Clown]

23. Our local Sherwin Williams sold me some primer

that will do the trick, for sure. It is a high bond primer. I was painting old mealmine board walls in a basement bathroom. It stuck like you can't imagine and once on, can be topcoated with anything.

I was so pleased I painted the mealmine cabinets in our main bath (slated for demo and reno this spring) to buy some time. It works miracles!

They also carry some paint made specifically to go on plastic with no need for a primer and claim it chemically bonds. Sadly, it is only available in bright primary type colors and only as a spray can. I'll pass on that.