Please let me share a couple of things

[polmaven]

that have me very excited.

First, the UMC has, this year, come very, very close in finally being able to affirm the importance of our gay and lesbian brothers and sisters. I know, I know, close only counts in horseshoes...but...and RevCheesehead, maybe you can confirm this or correct me on it...84 votes...84...to finally eliminate the ban on homosexual clergy and/or homosexual marriage. I think the vote was 501-417.

That bodes very well for the next quadrennial conference.

Second, And this is TRULY cool! My church is celebrating this year our 50th anniversary in our current building. We are actually 217 years old, having been established in 1791, with our first pastor having been Jesse Lee!

While doing historic research for some of the events we are planning, our historian came across a photo of one of our former pastors and another pastor from the district shaking hands with ...Martin Luther King. The caption says both pastors were arrested a few weeks later during a protest march in the south.

He also came across a newspaper article outlining how our church was the only venue offered in 1915 - in the Northeast - for none other than Booker T. Washington!

Forgive me if I say I am a very, very proud Methodist today!

[RevCheesehead]

1. Holey Moley!

(spelling intentional! O8) )

What church do you attend? Does it have a website?
You are one very lucky person to be in the heart of the good fight!

I just checked the website at umc.org, and found this:

In its majority report, the legislative committee, chaired by Frederick Brewington, New York Conference, recommended that delegates delete the incompatibility sentence and adopt the statement, “Faithful, thoughtful people who have grappled with this issue deeply disagree with one another; yet all seek a faithful witness.”

The revision also would have asked United Methodists and others “to refrain from judgment regarding homosexual persons and practices as the Spirit leads us to a new insight.”

Brewington told delegates the petition would be “an exciting and mature way forward,” calling it “an honest, yet humble approach to how we are to view one another.”

“Moving forward means we have come to a point of telling the truth. And we do not agree,” he said. “We can make the determination to move forward, and stop the hurt.”

In presenting the minority report, however, the Rev. Eddie Fox said that any United Methodist statement on human sexuality needs to be “clear, concise and faithful to biblical teaching.”

Leaving out the statement that homosexuality is “incompatible with Christian teaching” would be confusing, especially for members of the church outside the United States, Fox said.

“I have seen and experienced the pain and the brokenness in parts of our global movement whenever our church has failed to hold fast to this essential teaching of the Holy Scripture,” he said.

The delegates’ action prompted a coalition of gay advocacy groups immediately to stage a silent vigil outside the Fort Worth Convention Center. Members of Soulforce, Affirmation, Reconciling Ministries Network and Methodist Federation for Social Action lined the entrance as delegates returned from a dinner break.

Heated debate
Earlier in the day, the petition opposing homophobia generated some heated debate from the floor when a delegate from the Democratic Republic of Congo described homosexual practice as among the things “that come from the devil.”

“Homosexuality is a practice that is incompatible with the love of God,” he said. “We love homosexual people, but we detest what they do.”

But the Rev. Judy Stevens, New York Conference, countered: “We are all aware of the violence used against homosexual people in the world today. … It’s time to stand with people whose orientation may be different from us.”

The Rev. Debbie Fisher, from the Northern Illinois Conference, told delegates about a gay relative who was beaten to the point of being unable to function as an adult. “I ask you to think about Wesley’s three rules,” she said. “Great harm was done to this man who loved God.”

The Rev. Steve Wende of the Texas Conference said the debate was painful, but cautioned delegates against changing the Discipline’s language: “If we do this as a way of making some people happy, it won’t make anyone happy.”

Will Green of the New England Conference urged delegates to adopt the committee’s recommendation. “It allows for gay and lesbian people like myself to stay in the church in a safe way that doesn’t cause us to be sacrificed for the sake of church unity,” he said.

The Rev. Kent Millard, South Indiana Conference, said the petition reflects reality among United Methodists. “The truth is, we are divided,” he said. “Let’s just acknowledge that it doesn’t say one is right and one is wrong. It just says we disagree.”

After replacing the majority report with the minority report, delegates approved it 501-417.

http://www.umc.org/site/apps/nlnet/content3.aspx?c=lwL4KnN1LtH&b=3082929&content_id={45E5D40C-0D18-46F7-B40B-BD2F0B9F528F}¬oc=1

[polmaven]

2. Thanks for the info. I knew I was right.

Not like 4 years ago when the gay haters won their vote and still threatened a schism!

I belong to St. Stephen's in Marblehead, MA. We do have a web site, but no web master at the moment, so I really don't know when it was updated last. Been a while, I think.

I knew that St. Stephen's was ahead of it's time, but Booker T. Washington!!!

I had known for a while that Rev. L. had been arrested in the 60s. I did NOT know that he had met MLK just weeks before that.