Messages from Michael

[chknltl]

This is the "Seekers on Unique Paths" group.
Under that title I certainly qualify.
Some would call me an "atheist" others a "spiritualist"
and others a deluded nut.

I seek enlightenment from Michael.
Are there any here who would discuss the Michael phenomenon?

c

[Maat]

1. I have a friend who sends me those.

Could you post a link in a post for all to see.

My view is that the ideas presented are interesting to say the least. I'm a Religious Scientist ( www.rsintl.org ), and there is no dogma or creed in our church. And I tell my hubby, "There's no reason it couldn't be so."

Like I said, from a personal standpoint, I just take it in, and I think I'm willing to accept SOME of it as being a possibility.

If there are special, kind higher beings that could intervene, I hope they do it soon.

We have formed a group of spiriutal women who are open-minded, and who wish to explore spirituality, and who are progressive politically. We will be exploring that too. In a few months, we are going to be putting up a website. Want me to send you a message when we do?

Heck, I will send you a message with my email; maybe you and my friend would like to chat about Messages fromMichael" just for kicks.

Take care!

[Proud_Lefty]

3. Thanks for sending me this Maat

What I've been reading and sending you is from the Matthew's Books. Matthew died at 17 years old and now frequently talks to his writer-mother about spiritual and political events from his new broader level in the world beyond. Here is his latest letter.

http://www.matthewbooks.com/mm/anmviewer.asp?a=45&z=2

The Michael letters seem a little different, but I started reading through to see if there's any similarities. It does appear that many spiritual entities are trying to speak to us on many different levels, helping us understanding the picture from a much broader lens. In today's chaos, so many of us are feeling a need to hang on to some kind of reason that is positive.

A lot of churches in our area do find a lot of this offensive because they openly walk on an extremely narrow path they claim God intends us to walk. This is what clearly separates many of us from them. Our women's spiritual group mirrors our politic outlooks, specifically we refuse to allow ourselves to be confined to the small boxes of rhetoric our society has comfortably decided to live in.

I appreciate receiving the Michael letters and plan to learn more about them.

[Maat]

4. Well said!

I wouldn't be involved in any church that did not encourage spiritual exploration.

I reject any attempt to keep me confined to a small spiriutal box.

I just wish that if there were individuals who existed on a higher level of consciousness, who were intending to intervene in today's affairs, that they would do it quickly; some of Matthew's input alludes to this.

We need all the help we can get ridding ourselves of the NeoCons' influence.

[Proud_Lefty]

6. I felt so encouraged when I heard this

Just think about the corporate powers that are taking our country and the world to their knees. The hoarding of wealth is absolutely obscene. It's not natural and not right that this be allowed by the spiritual beings here and abroad. Until I read the Matthew letters, I couldn't understand why they were allowed to continue hurting, killing, stealing, lying and cheating so many without being held accountable.

As history has repeated itself many times, egos have always tried to rule the world and as those egos expand, they go down, the bigger the ego, the harder the fall. Just think of the egos on all these neocons and you can only imagine what kind of fall they're gearing up for.

[Maat]

9. Yes, I believe that those who are that greedy will suffer the ..

inevitable consequences of being that greedy.

I might not have read the right one, but the communcation I read from Michael seemed to indicate that we shouldn't fear the future. Those that are greedy and mean will suffer their consequences. And that the world will be in balance soon.

This jives with what I believe.

[Proud_Lefty]

10. Honestly, I was petrified and crazed by the injustices

until I saw where things are headed. So many religions speaks of the year 2012 and where we're actually going. Not wanting to fall into false hopes and choosing to believe in fantasies, I was a little hesitant at first to believe it all, but it makes more sense than anything else I've ever heard. It answers so many questions that no other explanation ever came close to answering. Since then, I'm no longer afraid, am content with my life, and happy with my friends, especially a great group of spiritual women I've grouped up with. Sometimes, weighing our priorities show how wealthy so many of us are who have wonderful people around us.

[Maat]

12. Well-said.

I guess that's the thing - finding information and/or a belief system that is comforting.

[chknltl]

2. link +....

http://www.caelumpress.com/mfm_excerpt.html

Above is a link to an excerpt from chapter one of the first book: Messages from Michael. The new version of this book is purchasable at this link. I have put another link in your in-box to pass along to your friend.

Michael in a nutshell:
First let me say that I do not look at this as a religion in that absolutely no "worship" is needed.

Accdg. to Michael: Each human has a spirit. This spirit is known as a fragment because it is part of a grouping of spirits. This grouping is in turn part of a much larger grouping. Michael is this larger group, (there are many like Michael). Each fragment reincarnates here on Earth many times. Each time lessens are learned and retained, each time Karma is earned and/or disbursed. (Both positive and negative).

Michael takes "it's" name from the last name one of it's fragments had while living here on earth. Michael consists of many hundreds of fragments. (Some call Michael, "The Michaels"). Michael has access to a great deal of knowledge, knowledge which it is willing to pass along.

Michael is in communication with many channelers here on Earth. Michael offers advice to any who ask...there are many who DO ask for this advice. Quite often Michael will answer questions in regards to one's prior incarnations, other times medical advice is asked for and given. Michael is not shy about ANY topic.

Some of Michael's teachings run contrary to religious teachings and will be rejected by some because of this. Michael does not seek or require anyone to believe in it's teachings. These teachings are offered up freely, it is up to the individual to decide what to do with this material.

There, Michael in a nutshell as best as I understand this.

[Maat]

5. It is all very interesting ...

and is not in conflict with the teachings of Religious Science at all.

I'm a Religious Scientist, and we are a 'New Thought' church.

Proud Lefty (above) and I are good friends, and we have a friend who is a New Thought minister.

I'm sure this minister, M, does not have any problem with exploring these ideas.

For example, in Religious Science, we teach that each individual is a piece of God, a segment of God, sent here to experience for God, whom many of prefer to call "Spirit." Spirit is both within and without, and is a system, if you will, that is there for us - that will help us achieve our goals. There is no doubt that Religious Scientists and New Thoughters believe in different levels of functioning and consciousness. And many of us believe that we incarnate into different human forms at different times. Makes sense to me.

And my pastor is fond of saying that after death in this life, one's unique energy unites with the One-Energy, and yet keeps its uniqueness. That would fit with this.

It is nice to hear the same principles over and over again - provides me with good angles for meditation.

[chknltl]

7. I posted a political question to a Michael channeler:

About healing the divisiveness in America. It is my belief that we are ALL Americans...We share a great many things in common. I ache to see America shattered as it is. I asked this question about healing and the answer I got back was quite unexpected. I hope you take a look:
http://michaelteachings.com/forum/viewtopic.php?p=158&highlight=#158
(only a very little here my be hard to follow: cycles refers to where an individual spirit is in maturity, the reference to Bush as a "priest" refers to the "role" of a spirit... my "role" is a "scholar" for example.)

btw: I am VERY encouraged to read your posted similarities...they DO make good points to ponder and meditate on. I now suspect that there will be further simularities to be discovered.
For instance Michael has stated that there IS a universal oneness. That which we may call God exists but not in the format that we may perceive. As we can not perceive Michael, Michael can not perceive this highest of intelligences.
c

[Maat]

8. Yes, we talk about the Universal Oneness.

That's how we perceive "God."

More info. at www.rsintl.org and at www.religiousscience.org .

Read the frequently-asked questions section, and I think that you will find it all comes together. That is - if you consider "God" an "it," or Spirit. That's what I call God: "Spirit," or Creative-Intelligence or Universal-Oneness.

Interesting.

[chknltl]

11. I just stopped in for a moment...

It is my full intention to gain further enlightenment from these 2 links...I peeked at the first one...Tomorrow I will spend some time there...thanks for these
c

[Maat]

13. This is SO cool ..

and what this group is supposed to be about: exchanging interesting spiritual links and information.

[chknltl]

14. Maat I am having server problems..

Server was out from noon to 6:30 (P.S.T.). I am on now but pages are loading slower than a dial-up! I managed to read the first link ok but second refuses to load....(many of my fave files will not load either). I WILL get back to read that second link when my server problems get resolved.

Some thoughts on the first link:
I am impressed with the "Comparative" nature of this. I like how there is an openness to explore ALL religions and look for the comonalities. This comes much closer to the version of the Spiritual world as taught by Michael then I first thought. In my oppinion this is a religion with few restrictions to the growth of the human experience. (One of my major exceptions to "orthadox" Christianity). I sense a "Live and let Live" approach here which also fits in with the Michael Teachings.

I note that the midevil opressive notions of "Hell and Damnation" have been removed...This is something I feel was added by humans to control their fellow humans. The notions of sin are gone too. The Michael teachings are somewhat different in that there are rules of Karma. (What bad Karma one accrues from misdeeds to a fellow human eventually get repaid to that same human but in a another lifetime.) The simularity of course is that in both philosophies this notion of eternal damnation has been removed. Another simularity here is that in the Michael teachings one is not expected to adhere to rules. (The affects of Karma are just there, one is never urged to choose between doing good or evil).

Instead of a lengthy post I am going to attempt to submit this as is. I am doing this because it would be a shame if I spent am hour on this only to find because of this server problem I have it won't post. One step at a time, let's see if I can get "spell check" to work...NOPE...Ok please forgive my mispellings here...I know I am a horrible speller. (I had to shut off spell check after about 2 minutes..it still was not loaded!). Well I will hit post...It might take awhile but I suspect it will get posted...eventually that is.
chknltl

[Maat]

15. I kind of gave my take on Religious Science, one of the

mystical faiths here (I'm a Religious Scientist).

Just for some information:
http://www.democraticunderground.com/discuss/duboard.php?az=view_all&address=214x38401 .

[chknltl]

16. Server problems over...I hope

I tried posting something lengthy earlier...but could not do so. This is my second attempt.

I was not able (earlier) to look at the second link in your post above just the first of those two. (Perhaps I can now...), I was able to look at the DU link in your last post.
I had, (have), some comments:
First and foremost calling this a cult is quite insensitive and dead wrong at best. (One poster apologized, this was appropriate and commendable imo). I liked how you stuck to your guns there too. Another poster said that this might make a perfect religion for liberals, (or something to that affect), I agree with that. "Live and let Live", "Acceptance of Others" these are both values of liberals AND your religion. (At least from what little I have read so far).

I wish to offer up 3 points which I have found online under "Michael Teachings" which may be relevant.
Bear in mind that not all who claim to channel Michael do such...I am finding that I have to pick and choose as I do my own research.

Acdg. to Michael:

1. Jesus did exist. He was a man. The "spirit", "soul", "fragment" which was Jesus is extremely rare. The characteristics which make up this spirit are not unique, they have manifested as other humans, each causing a significant impact on humanity. Some of these rare people are the basis for many of the Earths other religions.

2. "Hell", "Eternal Damnation" and "Sin" are human inventions created to control the masses. There is something known as Karma. This works thusly: When one accrues negative Karma by performing a deliberate injustice upon another then that Karma must be balanced out at some point between the victim and the perpetrator. This may not happen in the same lifetime, sometimes it will happen in the next or perhaps at some future life.

3. Humanity is beginning to undergo a transformation in spiritual growth. Younger souls are resistant to this change, many mature souls do side with the younger souls here but that balance is shifting. Evidence for this is the dropping of old paradigms for newer paradigms. Religion, (being relevant to our discussion), is a key part of this paradigm shift.

Michael tells us that we are to validate that which feels sensible to us and reject that which does not. (This especially includes Michael's teachings.) I find that our discussions about the commonalities between your religion and Michael's teachings validates for me item #3 above.

Back to the server problems I went through. I tried posting something like this earlier and it failed to post. "Page not Found" page came up instead wiping out about an hours worth of stuff, (I think slow). I will attempt spell check, (that did not work either) then I will post this. I will then seek out the links for those three Michael topics I posted so you can check into them if you wish. Normally I would post them here but I am fearful of losing all of this again when I go re-research them.
(Whoo-hoo, spell check worked that time...) I hope this posts this time.
c

[Maat]

17. Wow. Thanks for summing this up for me like this.

Everything seems to jive fine.

1. Yes, we believe Jesus is a Master Teacher, if you will. Thus, his soul is very unique, and does represent, at any one time, someone who has a profound impact upon the world. We believe that each person is a piece of God, or the Universal Consciousness, and that we are all equally divine. Thus, we do not see Jesus as being more divine, but as being, like you said, a soul who has a very profound, positive impact upon the World.

2. Our faith defines "sin" as "missing the mark." It isn't something you are punished for by some external force; rather, it represents you missing your own goal. So, I do believe that 'sin' as defined by the more hardright religions has been used to manipulate the masses. We don't even believe in a Heaven or a Hell, in the conventional sense, except as states of mind one can create for oneself. We are co-creators of our experience with God, and exist to experience for God. So, my belief system stands compatible with Michael's teachings.

I like that concept of kharma; it is akin to what my pastor describes. I believe in that wholeheartedly.

3. I think that this shift would be a good thing. I feel it in my heart. There is great resistance to the positive change that is happening, but positive change will win out.

I definitely believe that I need to "validate what is sensible" to me. That just couldn't have been expressed better. My pastor would definitely be agreeable to that. We do not believe that there is an external, judgmental God (Universal Consciousness, whatever). We believe that we are here to make individual choices and judgments about what makes sense; so, there is great compatibility there.

Thanks for the post. I really appreciated it.

Ironically, my husband says that many of the ideas that Michael communicates exist in his favorite science fiction (he really loves the program, "Stargate").

So, for me, it is all coming together.

Just read over everything again. Thanks for the posts (again)! There is much I can take from this discussion that will be comforting to me. All of these profound teachings express that it is NOT useful to sit around perseverating about someone who is perceived as 'evil.' I have trouble with that part sometimes. I know intellectually it only hurts me. So, the best that I can do is to state to myself, for example, "Behaving like Darth Cheney is not for me." That seems fair.

Profound.

[Proud_Lefty]

18. This is great stuff

I can't tell you how believing this gives me extreme comfort. For the past several years, it seems like we're living for the benefit of the rich people who are now openly stealing from us and will leave us for dead without even giving it a second thought. However, so many people in this country and in the world are coming out showing true compassion and love. That gives us a glimmer of hope compared to the original scenario of "Why bother? We're screwed."

When I first read Matthew, extremely similar to Michael, I felt a new height of peace and encouragement, and could finally relax about what we're really fighting for. I have to admit, though, over the past week that I started questioning myself and wondering if this philosophy is actually real, close to real, or just a belief that makes me feel good. As Maat knows my background, I'm a former fundie and don't ever want to fall into that trap again of clinging onto the comfy feeling at the expense of seeing and dealing with reality. If this philosophy becomes fact instead of a philosophy, then we have absolutely many wonderful things to look forward to. If not, I'm scared to death of what's happening to our world. There's a hell of a lot of room between right and wrong here.

Outside the spiritual realm, I've always given much more credibility to the actions I see than merely listen to the words I hear. I have hung onto these philosophies because they fit with what we see. At least they do to me. A few months ago, there were several small further indications that proved some of Matthew's points, specifically about the dark side using fear as their strongest weapon, and how our refusal to be afraid fights them most effectively. But the other side of me wonders if I'm making a lot out of these little things because I want this to be true so badly.

Can you help me out on this? If the world is beginning its journey into a whole new dimension and there's anything a 2012 target date, which isn't far away, what are we seeing now that show us it's actually going to happen. Or are we still expected to rely on faith like the Christians do?

[Proud_Lefty]

19. I guess I need to add

that I do have the spiritual connections that help me lean towards believing this. I've had many connections over the years and that's why so much of this fits for me.

[Maat]

21. Well, I certainly believe that you've had many spiritual ..

connections over the years.

I feel that I have too.

And, hopefully, our circle of spiritual women, and the special connection we feel, can make a positive impact on our little world anyway.

I can't help but feel that a new, wondeful movement in this country is happening.

[Maat]

20. Wow. What a great post!

There usually are good posts in this group.

I feel in my heart that we are moving into a new progressive, forward-thinking age (that agrees with the philosophies that we are discussing). I'm not sure about 2012; that's about six years away. A new president, hopefully a Democrat, will have been elected, and will be thinking about re-election. That's a goodly amount of time to grow the movement I feel is happening.

I do not worry about whether or not any particular teaching is 'right,' or 'right on;' we just don't have to worry about that. I feel that we are co-creating a peace consciousness right now with Spirit (Universal Oneness), and that will continue growing.

I don't think that we have to rely on rigid, dogmatic principles like my hardright religious relatives do. I think more that .... the enlightened beings are relying on US. We need to continue growing our consciousness that promotes human rights, affirmation, and peace.

One thing that I let go of when I left traditional conservative orientation behind was the idea that I had to rigidly and totally belief in and see this or that.

Let's just continue to let new ideas into the consciousness, and use what makes sense to us.

I hope that makes sense itself.

[chknltl]

24. I will add to what Maat has offered:

by encouraging you to visit this link which I posted further down in this thread about the '04 elections. This material helps put things in perspective for me.
http://www.itstime.com/election2004.htm

[chknltl]

23. Here are a couple of Michael links which address some....

...of those 3 statements I posted in my last posting.

Here is a dialog about Karma http://michaelteachings.com/karma.html

Here is a lengthy dialog about "Soul Age" ...if one scrolls down a bit one finds "Transcendental Souls". At the bottom of this is a small piece on the spirit or "Infinite Soul" that entered into Jesus Christ. (the "Tao" is what Christians would call God)
http://michaelteachings.com/soul_ages.html

Here is dialog about the '04 elections. It is a bit hard to follow for the novice at first, (I am a novice and I found it hard to follow at first). This addresses the paradigm shift in America and how it is being brought about. I found it interesting to note that many old and mature spirits who voted for Bush did so in order to bring about this paradigm shift. The concept here is a practical demonstration on how the old paradigm is not appropriate any longer. The more who realize the negative effects from this old paradigm the more who will shed it for a new paradigm.
http://www.itstime.com/election2004.htm

I will seek the advice of those more wise than I from the Michael group about my further discussions on this topic here. Perhaps we can get someone better schooled in the Michael teachings, (or better yet a Channeler), here in this section of the DU. I really am a novice and I am starting to feel like a fish out of water on this topic.

When I first started this thread I was looking to find out if anyone else had some experience with the Michael teachings. Frankly I expected to find few if any had even heard of this. I could hardly have expected to find that I would be engaged in an open comparison between a new religion and the Michael teachings. I am humbled here, especially in light of how little I really know and how much I am learning by researching these comparisons.

For me, I was looking for understanding of personal childhood experiences, (between 30-50 years ago).
When I discovered Messages From Michael, (about 5 years ago), much of my own experiences were validated and in turn those experiences validated some of what Michael was teaching about the spirit world! This is why I feel so strongly about the Michael teachings.

PS: Server problem repaired, spell check works again, I can post stuff without fear of losing the post and I can add links too...whoo hoo!

[Proud_Lefty]

25. I like your humbleness - it's refreshing

I read through these sites and it's a little confusing for me too. I guess I need to understand the soul levels and what that means needs to be fully understood to comprehend the statements. But I'll read back through and try to study these elements better. This is a whole new world, and an exciting one.

Mostly all of us, except Maat, are novices here. I am always amazed by her knowledge. I've never met anyone like her.

[chknltl]

26. I am still lurking in DU...noticed your post number....

....I got a chuckle out of it. I too am impressed by Maat's knowledge and equally impressed by the openness of this discussion. I feel a topic like this would bring about some unnecessary derision if it were discussed in the General Discussion area for instance.

Speaking of "6s" the Michael chat forum is about to get under way, I wish to discuss what we 3 have discussed here with them. I also want to see what their thoughts are on the Democratic Underground.

[Proud_Lefty]

27. I visit DU daily keeping on top of things

I don't post much though. It's too easy to step on toes and I've been jumped on one time too often when my opinions clash with anyone else's. It really takes the fun out of it. I'm much more comfortable with people I personally know, like Maat and all the others in the groups we're involved in. Don't get me wrong. I highly respect and admire practically all DU'ers, but I prefer to listen and learn. Sometimes I just have to jump in and put my 2 cents in.

Anyway, I'll try to catch up with you in the Michael chat forum. If I can't find you tonight, when is the next chat forum?

[Maat]

30. I'm going to try and check it out also.

:grouphug:

for all spiritually-inclined explorers!

[chknltl]

31. post #666 is gone...

That is what made me chuckle. I am a newbie here in the DU, been here less than a year but I confess to being a "chatty kathie" over in the Lounge. (One can build up a rapid # of posts over there).
I understand about that stepping on toes business too, I have done my share and got mine stepped on as well. Forgiveness and understanding can be difficult, I try but I am only human so some folks I have more respect for than others.

The Michael chat place is VERY hard for me...there are some folks who are... ummm... "difficult" to grasp over there. Please do not get me wrong, they ALL are nice, yet mostly they are further along in the Michael teachings... although I have read the 2 primary Michael books, I am yet so novice that I have a hard time keeping up. You are of course welcome to join, there is an application and you must get approval from the site moderator. Frankly I try to do more ghosting than talking. (I noticed that there are others like this too). There are those there who channel Michael on Wednesday evenings...sessions begin about 6pm Pacific time. Should you join please understand that it is up to you to validate that which feels right to yourself. Acceptance of others and acceptance of their thoughts is important for your own spiritual growth, (I think Michael would say this).

Equally important is that the Michael Teachings are not a religion nor are they meant as a replacement. They are meant as instructions to the individual as to the meanings of personality, the meanings of personal interactions and they can be used as tools for spiritual growth. Session questions can be about anything though, from health issues to legal issues to descriptions of past lives and pretty much anything you can imagine with a healthy dose of things you could not imagine.
I suspect that you would be encouraged to at least read Messages From Michael before joining, this would be my advice too.

If you have difficulties finding the sign up link let me know and I will PM it to you.
chknltl

[Proud_Lefty]

32. I got registered okay

After that, I was completely lost. I got to your question and loved it. I tried to think of my own question and your question is all I could think of. It may just be because it's the end of the week and I'm having trouble connecting. I'll try again tomorrow.

Oh, didn't catch that on the post 666. Isn't that something!

[chknltl]

33. I am SOOO unused to such flattery Proud_Lefty...

I also suspect that we are talking about two differing chatrooms.
The place where you may have seen my "question" to Michael about the "Divisiveness in America" is not a chatroom that I have been in yet. It was a place for me to be sure to ask a question, one which I felt had a good chance of being answered, because it holds relevance to many who read it. I suggest to you to consider carefully your question there, I am not sure if you get more than one question and there is no guarantee that Michael will answer. Also notice that many of the questions get a very short answer, I was stunned and honored to get such a lengthy and immediate reply. I do not know if this was a real response channeled directly from Michael or a response from an enlightened student either. I suspect that it was from Michael and if so I have been truly honored! Michael would not be "pleased" with my feeling honored, that is if Michael even can be pleased or displeased, Michael would likely point out that the answer held relevance to many at this time.

I have been in a different chat room, one which I should not recommend to you until you have had a chance to become more familiar with this material. I am NOT trying to discourage you here, just trying to let you know that the very chat room I have been in now, (for a mere month only) is quite a daunting affair. Imagine the DU lounge but oriented around folks from GD with Masters and PhDs in Poly-Sci all speaking in rapid succession with lots of legal terms, abbreviations and etc., mix in the occasional references to things which feel more like something out of Star Trek and you will get the picture. (Well that IS how I oftentimes feel over there). I have asked the moderator of that chatroom over here for a peek at our discussions, he is VERY enlightened, I hope that he will offer up some advice as to a place where we will both feel more at home in gaining enlightenment ourselves.
c

[Proud_Lefty]

34. Thanks for the warning

Sounds like what happens sometimes here to DU. Yes, I'll wait. I've had incredible spiritual encounters for almost 20 years now, but until very, very recently, I haven't found anything to study or advance those experiences as something more than just personal experiences. So on my own, I've been building that spiritual partnership and trying to understand what those relevations I've learned really do mean. I recently learned of the Matthew Letters from the Astrology forum here on DU which I posted above and was so excited to have something finally validate my own interruptions and also answered many remaining unanswered questions. I find his letters much easier to comprehend than Michael, but Michael seems more indepth and organized. Their ultimate messages seem the same.

From a spiritual point of view, I don't think I can handle ego and feeling intimidated. Maybe they don't mean to make others feel inferior, but our spiritual beings should reach out to others with understanding and compassion if they're truly evolved. The first thing my own personal journey taught me was that "ego" is the heart of evil. It's good for all of us to feel good about ourselves, but imagine a world where everyone cares more about others than always standing out above all others.

We don't realize how much winning and being the best is the most important goal for so many people in this country. How many movies have you watched where winning means validating a person's worth. For every winner, how many people are left feeling like losers because our society paints them that way. And they're not losers! None of us should ever feel that way, but we do. When my son started Little League, he was benched so much so the players with more experience could play. I paid for him to participate and learn, had him at all practices and games, practiced with him myself, yet he was benched for the kids with more experience. All the fathers told me it was about winning, not playing baseball. And it gets even worse when you make it to the business world.

[Maat]

35. All I can say is, "I agree!"

:)

And maybe we should start a new thread since this one is getting too long.

[Maat]

29. And I'm very much impressed with you!

A toast:

:toast: .

Like I said, I'm going to check out that forum; I read it a bit and noticed that it was just getting started (or appeared to be so).

There's not going to be any derision here. Read the past posts; we have a good group of open-minded people.

Welcome new SOUPer posters! (our group is called Seekers on Unique Paths)

:bounce:

[Maat]

28. And I'm in great company as well!

This stuff fascinates me!

[Maat]

22. Wow. I love this quote.

**Quote**
Primarily because the word God in your society has become masculinized and requires the use of the masculine pronoun, thus perpetuating the personification of the universal creative force, which is ethereal and not physical.
**Endquote**

http://www.caelumpress.com/mfm_excerpt.html

And this one: "Human understanding is the lesson of the Physical plane; without it, there can be no growth of the soul."


That agrees with the Religious Science of Spirit, and mine, by the way. How exciting.

I think I appreciate quotes from both the "Michael" and the "Matthew" teachings (finally figured out that they are different, have some different aspects, and some similar aspects).

[chknltl]

36. Proud_Lefty, Maat...

I have asked some of the other Michael Students to look at this thread. They all feel that you both are seeking enlightenment, as am I. They encourage you to continue searching through the things which interest you, often times validation will just "feel" right. They feel that if you desire to investigate the Michael teachings then you are welcome to come listen in or even participate in next Wednesday's session. There will be quite a few students there and you are welcome to chat and ask questions prior to the Michael Session. There are a few rules to follow, you will see them in the link, please get to know them. (Main thing is when the channeler talks...we generally quiet down and listen in.) Dave Gregg the site moderator will eventually close all conversations out and only allow the guest channeler to speak. Individual questions are fielded and answered then, one at a time until the channeler grows tired and calls a stop.

Here is that link, I look forward to seeing you there:
http://www.michaelteachings.com/m-chat.html
I hope to be there too. I find folks begin arriving by 5pm and are mostly there by 6. (Pacific Standard Time). Sessions generally last a couple of hours or so I am told. This will be my 3rd session, I missed last Wednesday's session because of that server problem.

This chat-room is open every day between 6-9pm. It is hit or miss as to who may show up there at any given time when it is open. One person who is there often is Ed. He seems to know everyone and everyone seems to know him. He is a good guy to ask about Michael stuff, (well just about everyone is actually but he was among the first to greet me...Kathryn too, she has been particularly helpful)
I will for-warn you about 1 individual. Let me PM you with that Maat, please fill in Proud_Lefty for me.

If you do not already have this link please check it out. Kathryn read our thread here, she recommended to me to ask you both to surf through this next link. If things "feel" right here then there is a very good chance that you will fit in. (Kathryn already thinks that both of you will).
http://www.itstime.com/michael.htm

[Proud_Lefty]

37. This sounds great

On Wednesdays, I work till 5 Pacific time. The earliest I could be on the computer is probably 5:50. I'm real excited to check this out. Thanks.

[Maat]

38. This is great.

I don't know if I can participate this time; if, for some reason I cannot, I will next time.

I really, REALLY, REALLY, appreciate the information AND the sentiments.

Spiritual exploration is very intrinsically rewarding to me (gives me a peaceful, happy feeling inside, to put it another way).

[Proud_Lefty]

39. I'll fill you in on it

I'm actually really exciting about it, if coming in so late is okay.

[Maat]

40. That would be great!

Thanks, Friend!

[chknltl]

41. Maat, Proud_Lefty, Here is a Transcript

of the first Channeling session I attended. I had spoken With Nancy Gordon twice prior, not knowing that she was one of the featured Channelers. Perhaps this will give you an idea of what to expect. I actually got to ask a question there, it was one I thought of in a hurry though because I had not anticipated being able to do so.
http://www.michaelteachings.com/nancy_chat_11-30-05.html

I have been to one other session, one which featured a different Channeler. There were many questions ahead of mine, I believe I was around 20th in line but the Channeler tired after about 18. I will try again next Wednesday. I will make sure that you get a transcript like this from next Wednesday's session if you wish. I have noticed that they come out a few days after the session, but there is an e-mailed version which has come out the next day, (well so far this has been the case). I will PM that to you when I get it. (I would rather do it that way because it has everyone's e-mail addresses on it, something that I suspect I should not put here in a post for all to see).
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[Proud_Lefty]

42. Thanks chknltl

This is exciting. Do you know if I'll have any problems getting on so late?

[chknltl]

43. No problems that I may be aware of..

I did have a small glitch in loading the Java Chat thing the first time I tried though...being barely computer literate I am used to such challenges. You might need to be a member but I am not even sure of that. This will be my third session so as you see I am no expert either. In that second session I noticed a few who did show up late, they generally remained very quiet until the session was over. I know the moderator keeps all of us locked out after actual Channeling session begins but there were a few minutes before and after that the channeler asked for the boards to be opened in order to speak with us as a group.

There are plenty of folks chatting freely before the start of this and again after words though. I think in a way it is like attending a church service, there are folks milling around at first, then the "speaker" gets everyones attention, at this point this is where our attention is focused and we follow directions. Then there is the actual "service" followed by a wind down and final milling around again by all with folks chatting about whatever, and we filter out as we will. Both of these which I attended had folks arriving up to an hour early at 5pm PST. the session starting a little after 6ish and lasted for a couple of hours, then everyone gone by 9.

I want to be there myself, at this point I see no reason why I won't be. I have made the acquaintance of a few of the folks, would you like me to make a general introduction? If I do this you will get barraged by friendly welcomes and questions...they did that to me. I am a slow 1 fingered typist who needs to look at the keyboard so that part was a bit difficult, but I think that might be something I could do for you and Maat, if the session has not advanced to the point where the channeler has the floor that is.
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