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GliderGuider Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed Jun-24-09 04:14 PM
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The Importance of Enlightenment
The Importance of Enlightenment

I'm going to muse a bit about why I think personal enlightenment is an important, perhaps even crucial, response to the crisis of civilization.

Here are my assumptions:
  • What we face is a predicament, not a problem. Problems have solutions, predicaments don't.
  • Humans have a "triune brain", composed of a reptilian complex, a limbic system and a neocortex, each of which is involved with different aspects of the human experience.
  • Human group behaviour is largely a product of unconscious, limbic-mediated herding instincts.
  • Some individuals have sufficient charisma and access to mass communications to induce herding behaviour in the rest of the population.
  • It's only in those leading individuals that "reason" or anything like it might shape the herd outcome.
  • However, most leaders do not reason. They operate mostly out of their reptilian-complex instincts, so the herding behaviour they promote will serve their personal r-complex needs for dominance, status, survival and mating.
  • For those few who have the opportunity and ability to become herd leaders, the rewards for the r-complex are so strong that it will not permit behaviour that might jeopardize the rewards. The leader sees no reason to change a successful strategy that fulfills the deepest needs of the organism.

Personal enlightenment (in the Buddhist sense I use) is aimed at reducing the control of the reptilian and limbic brains over personal responses and behaviour. It attempts to do this by increasing our cortical awareness of the influences of the other two thirds of the triune brain. Increasing that awareness allows the neocortex to detect and consciously intervene in otherwise unconscious responses. It's not put this way in the Buddhist lexicon of course, but those are the results I've seen. To a greater or lesser extent, it works that way in everyone who has had an awakening or enlightenment experience (and especially among those who have followed it up with continued inner work aimed at strengthening that ability).

Enlightenment of this kind is not a change of attitudes toward compassion, altruism, cooperation or any other "enlightened" values. That shift of values is a result of the awakening, not its cause or essence.

It's vanishingly unlikely that this sort of enlightenment will be pursued by those in power. As I said before, they have no incentive to do so, and their reptilian complex will actively discourage it. For someone who is not in power however, there is an incentive to pursue this kind of enlightenment.

It gives them more ability to chart their own course, and reduces their susceptibility to being herded. As a result they may be able to accomplish more of their own goals. Of course the level of awakening varies enormously from person to person, but even people who simply develop a light green environmental awareness have brushed against it.

One thing I have observed is that awakening is not necessarily an unpredictable and uncontrollable event. There are techniques that facilitate it. I've experienced it, and have seen it work in much the same way in most others who go through he same program I did. It's still an experiential process that is much more of an art form than a science, but I have seen it work. And of course, many people are awakening in the time-honoured tradition – spontaneously, in response to a crisis whose perception has both limbic and cortical components.

The question that arises immediately is, "So what?" So some individuals are experiencing this awakening – they are still trapped in the cultural and biophysical systems that are part of the problem, and have no ability to change that.regardless of their level of enlightenment. Why should we waste our time thinking about such things? My answer is two-fold.

First, as far as I can tell there is no top-down solution to our predicament. There is no chance that globally ameliorating legislation will be enacted, or that the herd of people sleep-walking towards the cliff will spontaneously cast off their triune yokes and become rational actors. Efforts to bring this about through education or persuasion are, in my opinion, doomed from the outset. As a result, if we are to think about and do useful things, those things must come from some other domain.

My second reason for giving such an idea the time of day is that human culture is an emergent phenomenon. It emerges from the dynamic interplay of human actions, which in turn stem from the complex interactions of the three parts of our brain. I've come to understand recently that our culture is a complex adaptive system that exhibits self-organized criticality. One characteristic of such systems is that they go through periodic phase changes, reversals or other discontinuities (colloquially called "tipping points"), driven solely by the internal dynamics of the system. Within such a system, changes in the behaviour of a small percentage of the low-level components can have dramatic influences on the overall system behaviour.

Given all of the above, here's how I think it might work. First, a growing number of people start to wake up. They form into small affinity groups that reinforce the individual shifts in values and behaviour that rersulted from their awakening. Over time, the limbic herding instinct will bring in more individuals to share those new traits. I believe this is precisely what's happening with the mushrooming number of environmental, social justice and spiritual groups identified by Paul Hawken in his book "Blessed Unrest".

At some undetermined and indeterminable point there will be enough of a change at the lowest level to cause a discontinuity in the behaviour of the system as a whole, kind of like a stock market reversal that happens organically when enough people have become convinced to change their trading direction. At that point, the ordering power of the guardian institutions will be overwhelmed in some undetermined and indeterminable manner, and things will change in some undetermined and indeterminable new direction.

Now that doesn't mean that humans will magically stop listening to their reptilian and limbic brains. What it does mean is that there is a growing number of people who are trying to recognize and ignore the unconscious orders of those parts of their brains. That, coupled with the unpredictable shift in the direction of human culture that has been precipitated by those same individuals, means that we might have a chance at continued existence. And a chance is all we have ever had, or had any right to ask.

Namaste,
Bodhisantra
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Why Syzygy Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue Jul-07-09 05:46 PM
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1. According to Gregg Braden's studies ..
Only 100 per million, 8,000 worldwide, are needed to make the transformation.
http://www.greggbraden.com/

http://www.glcoherence.org/
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leftyladyfrommo Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sat Jul-11-09 09:23 AM
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2. One big problem with that idea -
I think that seeking enlightenment might very well insure that you will never find it.

Does that make any sense?
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Why Syzygy Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sun Jul-12-09 02:16 AM
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3. Depends on how you define "enlightenment".
As used in the OP:

Personal enlightenment (in the Buddhist sense I use) is aimed at reducing the control of the reptilian and limbic brains over personal responses and behaviour. It attempts to do this by increasing our cortical awareness of the influences of the other two thirds of the triune brain. Increasing that awareness allows the neocortex to detect and consciously intervene in otherwise unconscious responses.

it doesn't seem to me to be elusive when sought. Increased awareness is always within reach.
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leftyladyfrommo Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Mon Jul-13-09 09:17 AM
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4. You can find increased awareness pretty easily.
Actual enlightenment in the Buddhist sense doesn't come on command.

Look at Zen, for instance. You just sit for no reason. You might actually find enlightenment or you might not.

Such a hard concept for the western mind. We are so results oriented.
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GliderGuider Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri Jul-17-09 02:05 PM
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5. Defining enlightenment
I recently read a definition of enlightenment that described it as the ability to perceive and respond to inner and outer reality as it truly is. Of course there's a whole lot of complicated that goes along with that ability, but it seems like a good and practical starting point. It also seems like it's a skill that could be trainable (at least to some degree) rather than some ineffable epiphany.

At this point though, I'll settle for increased awareness. If that turns into somebody's definition of enlightenment at some point, all well and good. If it doesn't, that will be enlightening too :-)
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Why Syzygy Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri Jul-17-09 03:06 PM
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6. One thing seems sure ..
for those who *know* with certaintly, enlightenment is yet beyond.
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GliderGuider Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri Jul-17-09 06:01 PM
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7. Words
My teacher once said that there is a difference between believing something (the "knowing" that comes from the mind) and the knowing that arises spontaneously from the heart. That kind of knowing is absolutely sure, and is the foundation of enlightenment. The "mind knowing" is the kind we are all familiar with, and if that's all there is then no matter how sure it feels, enlightenment lies elsewhere.
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GliderGuider Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri Jul-17-09 07:37 PM
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8. Sorry, I didn't mean that subject line to sound dismissive.
I meant that when we talk about something like enlightenment words can be problematic. When we try to describe such deep subjective abstractions, we ask prosaic words to carry uncommon and very personal meanings. It's hard to be sure those meanings are communicated accurately. What I think of when I hear the word "know" may not be someone else's understanding at all.
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leftyladyfrommo Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sat Jul-18-09 09:23 AM
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9. Boy are you in for a bad time.
With your incredible command of language you may never find enlightenment. I don't mean that as a slam but sometimes I think really smart people have a much harder time. Have to over think everything. Mind just does that automatically. And the philosophical discussions are fun.

Maybe finding silence is the hard part of task for the truly intellectual mind. We all have something.

I wonder if finding silence is kind of like trying to catch the wind? As soon as you catch it it is no longer wind.

Damned if I know.
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GliderGuider Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sat Jul-18-09 02:32 PM
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11. Yeah, I figured that out a while ago :-(
My first challenge in even stepping onto my path was getting my monkey-mind gatekeeper to let me just sit once in a while. I've been cursed with an active intellect, and then nurtured in an intellectual/scientific/anti-spiritual family. On the other hand, when I meditate I dive straight down to That Place, so I'm not worried that I can't be here now. Mostly I worry that when I forget, I'll get so involved in thinking that I'll also forget to STFU long enough to remember. The internet is a challenge for me that way, but it can also be a great classroom for learning how to detach from the ego trap caused by combination of strong opinions and language skills.

Fortunately, wherever I wind up will be where I'm supposed to be, so it's all OK...
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leftyladyfrommo Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sat Jul-18-09 09:34 AM
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10. Tesshu Tokusai 1366
Movement and stillness:
Both are part of the same principle.
Emotions of this dusty world
are not as important as the Way.
So I endure this thin
paper robe
until the dawn bell,
While pomegranite leaves and mulberry
Branches dance in the north wind.
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GliderGuider Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sat Jul-18-09 02:37 PM
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12. Exactly so.
Thank you.
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leftyladyfrommo Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Mon Aug-03-09 06:04 PM
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14. Have you seen the new book out by the Dalai Lama on Enlightenment.
I just got it at the library - pretty interesting stuff. He is the most amazing man.

The chapter on karma just kind of blew me away. Every little thing you do counts - everything. Of course there are the heavy weights like killing and stealing and lying. But just what you think counts. That one is so hard for me. It's so hard not to think angry thoughts about people who have hurt me. But he says that one should show compassion for the one who hurts others - they are the ones who are wracking up the really bad karma.
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Oak2004 Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sat Aug-01-09 11:27 PM
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13. I'm not sure that seeking it prevents its finding
Edited on Sun Aug-02-09 12:13 AM by Oak2004
but I'm quite sure that it will be found when one has forgotten that one is looking for it.
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Mari333 Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue Oct-13-09 01:30 PM
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15. why in the world would 3 dimensional form have to be created in the first place
and than a person spends all their time trying to enlighten themselves out of the goddamned state of 3 dimensions . and than, if the veil gets ever so slightly lifted, womp. its all these vague references.
3 dimensions was a silly invention.
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GliderGuider Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed Oct-14-09 10:34 AM
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16. There's a belief that we created this reality as it is to provide a classroom for our learning
Whether the idea that reality is a consensual co-creation is true or not, we have to start from where we are. And that means here in three physical dimensions and linear, unidirectional time. Knowing that you might have helped to build the schoolhouse doesn't change the lessons you need to learn inside it.

What better way could there be to learn about reality than by working to fully perceive and align with it?
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RagAss Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu Nov-12-09 11:16 PM
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17. We only see 3 dimensions....because we are the 4th.... and cannot see our self.
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