The Body is Too Slow For Me...

[Dover]

Toward the gardens,
Toward the orchards,
I am going.
If you want to stay here,
Stay here -
I am going!
My day is dark without His Face,
Toward that bright flame
I am going.
My soul is racing ahead of me.
It says, The body is too slow for me -
I am going.
The smell of apples arises
from the orchard of my soul.
One whiff and I am gone -
Toward a feast of apples
I am going.
A sudden wind won't blow me over.
Toward Him, like a mountain of iron,
I am going.
My shirt is ripped open
with the pain of loss.
Searching for a new life,
with my head held high,
I am going.
I am fire, though I seem like oil -
Seeking to be the fuel of His fire,
I am going.
I appear as a steady mountain
Yet bit by bit,
Toward that tiny opening
I am going.

~ Rumi

[I Have A Dream]

1. As I was watching the Peter Kingsley video that you posted...

I thought of you, Rumi and this Whirling Dervish image that you posted years ago. I then opened this thread, and it's all here. :)

At that time, you introduced me to Rumi, and I will be forever indebted to you for that.

[Dover]

2. Hi IHAD!

Sorry for the delayed response.
I really need to check this forum more frequently...lol.
Yes, my interests/posts do have a circular motion...round and round :crazy:
I had no idea that was your first encounter with Rumi but I fondly remember
those posts and conversations....and a particularly fun cyber dance with you
at the helm.

Listening to this latest Kingsley video has set me off again into an ever-widening circle dance.
I had never before heard him asked about his personal path. He responded with a brief mention of
the Golden Chain. That was something new for me and so I am off again into reading up on it.
Round and round and round I go....

Good to see you. Hope all is well with Pluto's passage through your tribe of cappy planets.

[I Have A Dream]

3. I really liked what Kingsley presented.

I'm definitely going to check out more of his videos. What he was saying was very much in line with a book that I'm currently reading which is based on Alice Bailey's writings and which deals with learning how to use soul-inspired spiritual magic in a way that helps humanity. It will be interesting to see whether Kingsley has anything to say about this topic. I've also been drawn recently to the Divine Feminine, so his Goddess reference piqued my interest even more.

In reference to coming back to interests, I am the same way; I'll be "led" somewhere else for a while but will ultimately come back to topics with a fresh mind and a new perspective based upon the wisdom that I have gained since the last time I spent time on that particular subject. It's very fun to just allow oneself to go where our interests lead us. Life is so structured in so many other areas; I don't want my spiritual life to be based upon "shoulds".

In reference to my stellium, it's not being hit yet, but Pluto has been exactly opposite my Mars, and Neptune and Chiron refuse to leave my Chiron; I think that I've had the longest Chiron return in the history of humanity! I used to think that Neptune was something akin to a kitten. How naive I was! ;)

I hope that you're doing well also, Dover. Thank you again for sharing your interests and wisdom with me. :hug:

[Dover]

4. Ha! I recognize those line dancers!

A fun memory.

Sounds like you are being drawn to some important 'soul-inspired' and nourishing study.

:wow: Eeek! Plute/Mars!!! Not for the faint at heart, but deeply transformative, eh?
And I agree about Neptune - particularly for left brainers. The period when it
aspected my Sun (along with some other 'big' transits) was truly life/reality changing -
a spiritual crisis like no other and disintegration of what I had thought
was my 'reality'. So difficult to completely surrender to it until I realized what
I was holding onto was neither real nor nourishing. The experience conjures up that scene from
the Wizard of Oz where the witch gets doused with water and cries..

"Look what you've done! I'm melting, MELTING!.....oh what a world, what a world..."


May you receive loving guidance. Sending you :hug: on your transformative journey.

[I Have A Dream]

5. Yes, your description is perfect for what I am experiencing.

Fortunately for me, I have Neptune in the first house only 3 degrees from my ascendant, so I am usually pretty comfortable with Neptune's energy; I don't know what I would have done if that had not been the case. However, this period is like nothing I've ever experienced, and Neptune's joint transit with Chiron on my natal Chiron (with both planets' influence waxing and waning over time, of course) will still be continuing for another year. Once it is over, this combined transit will have been two and a half years in duration.

I'm so glad that you had your realization that allowed you to release your grip, Dover. I'll use your words to help me to surrender where I feel called to do so.

Thank you, as always, for sharing your insight and wisdom with me. I have pretty much been feeling as though my ship has capsized, and I would be forevermore lost at sea in the middle of a storm. You've made me realize that my ship was never real to begin with, the sea really is where I should have been all along, and the storm is what my ego is going through during this time, after which it will hopefully be transformed into a more valuable, willing and wise servant to do my soul's work. Yes, I got all of that from your word above...

:hug:

:loveya:

[Dover]

6. Wow, so beautifully expressed. We are all learning to swim, or at the very least

float. lol.
The thing I realized about Neptune was that IT was not presenting the illusion (as is often
taught in astrology). Neptune removes the veil and exposes what is truly real.
It's just that most of us don't know how to comprehend or integrate what we're being shown so we find ourselves at sea, in a fog of confusion and in fear of drowning. There are some wonderful books on Neptune that I found really helpful...they were like an empathetic and understanding friend during that difficult phase. The Book Of Neptune by Marilyn Waram was my fave.
So your suggestion that the ocean IS reality seems right on the money to me. And eventually you'll be tossed up on a new shore and get your sea legs. I had some deeply profound and life altering dreams during that time that I've alluded to before. In fact, when I was able to surrender I felt really plugged into the cosmic symphony, so connected and aligned to the all that is...part of a vast ocean. It was both terrifying and extraordinarily beautiful...magical. Another analogy I heard at the time was that experiencing Neptunian energy was like being a big dish receiver without a filter or off button. It can be truly overwhelming. But it sounds like you've had plenty of
practice with this illusive planet.


It's very similar to the state one willingly enters into and surrenders to, through various forms of meditation. It's just that during a Neptune transit it feels like there's no choice in the matter. You get thrown into the ocean and sink or learn to swim...and I'll bet some even grow gills, like those slippery Pisces!

((( :hug: )))

P.S. - learning to surrender (and to 'die') has, unfortunately, been a process that gets repeated often.
My big Neptune transit simply showed me what it is to surrender, how it feels. But it's an ongoing lesson. I figure I've had more deaths and new life in this incarnation than a cat!