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liskddksil Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri Jan-21-05 04:29 PM
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Fundraisers won't donate to dems if Dean wins
Bob Novack says his sources say that if Dean wins many big time donors won't give to the democrats as long as he is chairman. If thats true then we don't need their money. Its only causing us to lose elections.
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Anarcho-Socialist Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri Jan-21-05 04:31 PM
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1. Bob Novak's sources
I'd take it with a pinch of salt
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Kerrytravelers Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri Jan-21-05 04:31 PM
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2. Now I want him in even more...
I I never was a Dean-iac. I like the guy and I think he'll make a wonderful DNC CHairman. This only goes to prove my point.

Bye bye Terru McSellout
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marc_the_dem Donating Member (222 posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri Jan-21-05 04:31 PM
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3. Fuck em
Who needs them....
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skylarmae Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri Jan-21-05 04:31 PM
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4. wonder if it is the same source who leaked
the name of the covert CIA operative. Novak is a shameless hack
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justinsb Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri Jan-21-05 04:33 PM
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5. Good
I think Novak is full of sh*t but I hope he's right about this, if big money loses interest in the Democrats and the Democrats lose interest in big money perhaps they'll go back to being a progressive party
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papau Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri Jan-21-05 05:08 PM
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19. I agree - we no longer need the big fund raisers - if they want to beg to
get on board fine.

Otherwise we will know who the enemy is.

Bush did not pull down $1 Billion this last cycle from internet folks - and the small percentage of the corporate money thrown the way of Dems is an insult to begin with.
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adigal Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri Jan-21-05 04:33 PM
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6. Um, what Dem fundraisers
are talking to Novak??? He is just trying to scare them away from Dean.
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BlueEyedSon Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri Jan-21-05 04:35 PM
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7. Novack's message from the RW is "We fear Dean."
Edited on Fri Jan-21-05 04:38 PM by BlueEyedSon
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Kota Donating Member (658 posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri Jan-21-05 04:43 PM
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14. I think you got it right.
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DaedelusNemo Donating Member (336 posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sat Jan-22-05 03:07 PM
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26. Best endorsement possible - I'm off the fence and for Dean /nt
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Nite Owl Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri Jan-21-05 04:36 PM
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8. The party sold our souls for
that money, we need to claim it back. They have to fear him for a reason and we are better without it.
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liskddksil Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri Jan-21-05 04:47 PM
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15. absolutely
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Eloriel Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sat Jan-22-05 08:13 PM
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31. Oh, BEAUTIFULLY put
Just beautiful. And so true, of course (which is what makes it "beautiful").
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burned Donating Member (219 posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri Jan-21-05 04:37 PM
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9. haha
The R's are afraid of Dean. :)
Otherwise they would just be quiet and let the bad happen.
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aden_nak Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri Jan-21-05 04:40 PM
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10. "OMFG we are scared of Dean." - Robert "Douchebag for Liberty" Novack
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burythehatchet Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri Jan-21-05 04:42 PM
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13. that's exactly right, they truly do fear him.
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Liberal Veteran Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri Jan-21-05 04:40 PM
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11. And of course Novakula only wants to help the democratic party?
HAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAH!
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burythehatchet Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri Jan-21-05 04:41 PM
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12. you forgot to add the last part of his sentence
"...sure he'll get the little internet donations...."

why this bastard isn't in jail, let alone employed, is beyond me.
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ewagner Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri Jan-21-05 04:48 PM
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16. Duh!!! That's the whole point!!!
The reason the DNC has turned into Casper Milqtoast is because they are afraid of turning off their big doners whose goals are TOTALLY different from the rank-and-file base of good, honest, hard-working traditional Democrats......if Dean is elected, he'll appeal to the base for fund-raising and not the big-money doners...THAT'S THE WHOLE POINT....

Novak is an idiot if he hasn't figured it out....

okay....

he's an idiot UNER ANY CIRCUMSTANCE!!!!!!!

I wasn't a Deaniac during the primaries, but I want him as head of the DNC.....NOW!!!!!!
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Larkspur Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri Jan-21-05 04:59 PM
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17. And what's the problem with losing Robber Baron donors?
:shrug:

Sounds like the shock waves from the Florida DNC delegation endorsement of Dean are still rocking the boat.

The only Fat Cat donors who won't donate if Dean is the nominee are the corporate crooks. George Soros and his big donor allies support Dean.
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EC Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri Jan-21-05 05:02 PM
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18. fuck him...Novak always says what the
Edited on Fri Jan-21-05 05:04 PM by EC
republicans are trying to make us do...reverse psychology...


On edit: if we were smart we would do exactly what he tells us not to...
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smurfygirl Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri Jan-21-05 05:18 PM
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20. It's clear that Dean should be head then
Clearly novak and his fools are scared of dean.:scared:
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janx Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri Jan-21-05 05:49 PM
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21. So now they're trotting out Novak?
HA! The blogger story didn't work, so they're pulling out the "big guns," eh?

This is hilarious! :party:

Bring 'em on, bay-bee! :toast:
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Cheswick2.0 Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri Jan-21-05 08:36 PM
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22. Looks like little Bobbie Drooler is getting nervous
I think there are some fat cat donors who are killing us. The sooner they scoot their asses back to the republican party lock stock and barrel the better off we will be. They only donate 23 cents on the dollar that they give to republicans anyway.
Any politcian that falls for this because they are getting big bucks from these guys should be unemployed in their next election.
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Southsideirish Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri Jan-21-05 08:47 PM
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23. We've already proved we don't need them. And we won't have to sell
our souls to the devil anymore if they aren't part of the picture.
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autorank Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri Jan-21-05 10:19 PM
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24. In the words of the prophet, "They can go fuck themselves!"
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BornaDem Donating Member (225 posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sat Jan-22-05 11:10 AM
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25. Who will they donate to?
Nobody? Will they starve their own party or actively support another?
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Zhade Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sat Jan-22-05 04:55 PM
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27. All the more reason for Dean to get the job!
Break the stranglehold of corporate donations and expected returns.

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d.l.Green Donating Member (273 posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue Jan-25-05 07:07 PM
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41. All us small donors expect is a little democracy n/t
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moggie12 Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sat Jan-22-05 06:01 PM
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28. The more Novak and the RW knock Dean,
the more I want him for DNC chair. And these alleged "money men", I'm betting their exactly the kind of contributors we shouldn't take money from (e.g., the Wall Street crowd.)
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Laurab Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sat Jan-22-05 06:09 PM
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29. If Novak said that - Dean's obviously the right guy
That's the biggest endorsement for Dean I've seen yet!
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Eloriel Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sat Jan-22-05 07:55 PM
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30. GOOD!! That would be one VERY positive step forward
We need a party of, by and for The People -- and that means people-funded, not corporate or big-wig funded.

Of course, it's Bob Novak's job to keep the one person who'd make one helluvan effective DNC chairman out of the running if possible. Last week he even called him "unstable."

If Novak's against him, if Novak is making threats about funding over him, everyone here ought to KNOW that Dean is far and away the best choice, period, end of discussion. there is no way in hell Novak would be giving the Dems GOOD advice about who to choose. No way in hell.
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lojasmo Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Mon Jan-24-05 08:23 AM
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32. Fuck Novak, his sources, and "many big time donors." What utter crap. N/T
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Beth in VT Donating Member (224 posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Mon Jan-24-05 04:35 PM
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33. Dean is their biggest threat - don't let them freak you out ... again!
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AntiCoup2K4 Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Mon Jan-24-05 06:58 PM
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34. Fuck the douchebag, and fuck corporations trying to buy this party...
Something tells me that Howard Dean ain't worried about raising money ;)
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ImADeanDem Donating Member (97 posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue Jan-25-05 09:39 AM
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35. I'd rather lose those donors...
than lose all the actual VOTERS I think we'd lose if the party chose someone like Roemer.
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mattclearing Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue Jan-25-05 12:42 PM
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36. If Dean wins, we won't need them. The less corporate we are, the more
people will donate.
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jackster Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue Jan-25-05 01:37 PM
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37. BALONEY!
this is just the rethugs trying to further divide the party.

don't forget you have all the ditto heads "begging" the DNC to choose Dean because they say it will be the downfall of the Democratic Party? Reverse psychology. These guys are AFRAID of Dean. Look what he's done - they KNOW the tide is turning and they're scared you know whatless!
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Walt Starr Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue Jan-25-05 01:59 PM
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38. EXCELLENT!!!!!!!
Even more of a reason for Dean to win!!!!!
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Justitia Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue Jan-25-05 02:22 PM
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39. hahahahaha - The Evil Ones must be really scared of Dean! - eom
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Andromeda Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue Jan-25-05 06:46 PM
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40. Spoken by a true vampire...
The only one who scares me is Nofacts and the rest of his ilk.

Repeat after me: Select Howard Dean and the money will come, the money will come, the money will come.
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