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papau Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue Feb-08-05 07:34 PM
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Charlie Cook says Pelosi/Reid "response" to SOTU was "vapid" non-response

Vapid Response Team

By Charlie Cook
Tuesday, Feb. 8, 2005

It's difficult to say which was more frustrating last Wednesday, watching the president's State of the Union address or the Democratic "response."

While President Bush's speech was well crafted and well delivered, it begged so many questions that I suspect I wasn't the only one talking to the television set during the speech.

But the Democrats failed to ask any of those questions.

That the word "response" is in quotation marks is no accident, because what Senate Minority Leader Harry Reid, D-Nev., and House Minority Leader Nancy Pelosi, D-Calif., delivered on national television was not a response at all. They were merely speeches that were written and rehearsed in advance. In fact, if the networks allowed such things, Reid and Pelosi could have taped their remarks a week or so in advance. It's ironic that the Democratic Party is taking so many hits for being the party of the trial lawyers yet seems unable to make a convincing case of its own.

In an effort to come across as smooth and polished, Democrats have abandoned any sort of effort to act as rebutters of the president's arguments.

Instead, they have taken to delivering alternative, mini-State of the Union speeches. And just like last year's Democratic National Convention in Boston, this year's Democratic "response" proved to be another wasted opportunity for the party.

The heart and soul of the president's State of the Union speech was the section on Social Security, an issue that will clearly define the early part of his second term.

While one can easily make a semantic argument over whether there is a Social Security crisis, or whether it is a serious problem that will eventually qualify as a crisis, the president did a reasonably good job of making his case.

Yet if the president's statement that Social Security will run out of money in 2042 is correct, why isn't Medicare more of a crisis, since it will run out of funding in 2019? If Medicare is slated to go broke 23 years before Social Security, why didn't it merit attention in Bush's speech? Unfortunately, Reid and Pelosi did not make this argument in their "response."

When the president made his case for personal accounts, he accurately pointed out that payroll taxes paid today are funding retirement benefits for seniors tomorrow and not put in some gigantic trust fund until the current workers retire.

If that's the case, then wouldn't allowing up to a third of workers' payroll taxes to be diverted -- "carved out" in the term of the moment -- simply hasten the financial demise of the Social Security system? If Reid or Pelosi made that case Wednesday night, it didn't come across very well.

And, the Bush administration has floated the notion of changing the way Social Security benefits are determined by basing future indexing on the rise in prices as opposed to the increase in wages.

According to a Wall Street Journal article published Friday, such a change would mean today's teenagers retiring at age 65 would see a 32.5 percent reduction in benefits over current retirees. For not-yet-born Americans retiring in 2075, that cut would amount to 45.9 percent.

The same article pointed out that the current system replaces 36 percent of the average 65 year-old retiree's previous earnings, but that it would drop to 25 percent in 2052 and 20 percent for those retiring in 2075 if the indexing system is changed.

That's a cut in anyone's vocabulary, and yet that message did that come through in the Democratic response.

It's true Americans find the concept of private accounts (Republicans prefer to call them "personal" accounts) attractive and they give workers some control over their savings for retirement.

But it is equally clear from the polling data that as soon as the words "stock market" and the concept of risk are raised, support starts to melt like an ice cube on an August day in Washington.

The president's plan calls for the use of "life cycle" funds for those investing in the stock market to reduce risk as people begin to approach retirement age.

But what if the stock market goes into one of its periodic downturns before the risk level has been significantly reduced? Unfortunately, Democrats did not communicate these risks very effectively Wednesday night.

Rebuttals to State of the Union speeches are supposed to be effective, not polished.

They are supposed to poke holes in a president's speech, not attempt to match its rhetorical flourish for rhetorical flourish or prove that the opposition party possesses better TelePrompTer reading skills.

Such rebuttals are simply supposed to convince people the opposition leaders are good, old-fashioned, down-home folks who can lay the same claim as the president to understanding the concerns of average Americans.

If congressional Democrats learned anything from the Kerry-Edwards 2004 campaign experience, it wasn't on display Wednesday evening.

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xray s Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue Feb-08-05 07:48 PM
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1. I think Charlie makes some good points
Democrats can never seem to go for Bush's jugular when he gives them the opportunity.

Kerry didn't do it in the first debate. I think Cook points out some good opportunites that were lost after the SOTU speech.
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pauliedee Donating Member (383 posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed Feb-23-05 07:16 PM
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5. Kerry annihilated Bush in debates
He did go for the jugular and he ripped it out!!!
Bush has never been more embarrassed than that day....I hear he still gets mad if people bring it up...

Kerry in 2008
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mike_c Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue Feb-08-05 07:50 PM
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2. I agree....
I didn't hear Reid's response, but I did catch Pelosi's and I was thoroughly underwhelmed. She devoted most of it to giving Bush's issues and positions free advertising. More of "democrats can out-Bush Bush." Lame.
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papau Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue Feb-08-05 08:03 PM
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3. I agree- Nancy needs to stop worrying about Dean- and to take lessons from
Edited on Tue Feb-08-05 08:04 PM by papau
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Ken Burch Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sun Feb-27-05 05:22 AM
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6. Reid should resign as Minority leader NOW...
So a REAL Democrat(like Christopher Dodd or Russ Feingold)can have the chance to step up to the plate and take a real swing at the ball.

This proves he can't hack the job.

For Democrats, moderation equals defeat and blandness equals death.
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More Than A Feeling Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sun Feb-27-05 11:33 AM
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7. What are you talking about?
Edited on Sun Feb-27-05 11:33 AM by Heaven and Earth
Harry Reid has all the Dem Senators in opposition to Bush's attempt to destroy social security.

"Reid, the senior senator from Nevada, said he does not know of a single Democrat among the 45 in the Senate who will support Bush's proposal."
http://www.cnn.com/2005/ALLPOLITICS/02/01/Dems.socialsecurity/

As soon as Reid was attacked by the GOP smear machine, he fired back furiously.

"Senate Democratic Leader Harry Reid questioned President Bush's honesty on Tuesday and said he wanted "the boys at the White House" to know he wasn't losing any sleep over the Republican Party labeling him an obstructionist."
http://www.ledger-enquirer.com/mld/ledgerenquirer/news/politics/10848016.htm

Reid won't hesistate to initiate a scorched earth strategy if the reps go nuclear in the Senate.

"Further, as Minority Leader Reid warned over the past months, use of the nuclear option itself will rightly spark a conflagration of protest by Senate Democrats in the form of objection to routine business and to traditional means of expediting the Senate's work. Much business in the Senate, on legislation and nominations alike, will grind to a halt."
http://www.alternet.org/story/21212/

In short, calling for Reid's resignation because of a single speech would be hasty and unproductive. Democrats need steady leadership. Harry Reid is steady, he is strong, and he is far from colorless if you take the time to read his biography.
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derby378 Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sun Feb-27-05 12:07 PM
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8. I say keep Harry Reid, but ditch Nancy Pelosi
She's as useful as a Methodist hymnal at an American Atheists convention.
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welshTerrier2 Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue Feb-08-05 08:32 PM
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4. get a strategy and have every Democrat repeat it over and over
Cook made five or six really good arguments against bush's Social Security plan ...

not only should Reid and Pelosi have hammered on every one of these points during their response to the SOTU, but every Democrat making public appearances should have hit these same points over and over and over ...

the likelihood that Democrats have been handed a "playbook" of talking points seems very low ... unless we present a clear, consistent message and have every Democrat repeat that message, the American people will not understand where Democrats stand on this issue ...
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