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Langley85 Donating Member (96 posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu Mar-24-05 04:07 PM
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The Democratic Party- My Thoughts
Edited on Thu Mar-24-05 04:13 PM by Langley85
With thinly veiled conservative Chris Matthews of MSNBC’s Hardball already pontificating with his “panel of experts”- containing the profound insight of such staggering minds as Patrick Buchanan and Joe Scarborough- on the 2008 presidential election, I figure it may be time for the Democrats to be doing some thinking of their own. After all, the best defense is a good offense, and if the previous two elections have taught us anything- besides how easily the masses are duped and the hidden joys of electronic voting machines- it is that Democrats have got to learn give as good as they get.

The failure of a single Democrat to come to the aid of the African-Americans in Congress protesting President Bush’s election in 2000, and the current almost complete silence about the Republican-led Congressional action ignoring nine previous state rulings and demanding a federal hearing for the unfortunate- and unfortunately misused- case of Florida’s Terri Schiavo, to name two of the most prominent examples, are part of a long-running pattern of Democratic apathy in the face of conservative power-mongering which is threatening to leave the Democratic Party looking like it’s all bark and no bite. For decades, Democrats have been able to count on African-Americans as a predominantly Democratic voting block. But sad Democratic displays of weak-willpower, even political cowardice, most notably in 2000, is having its after-effects.

In 2004 11% of the African-American vote, a three-percent increase from 2000, went to George W. Bush. Likewise, among Hispanic voters, also perceived as mostly Democratic, Bush- according to polls- attracted 44% of the vote as opposed to 35% four years earlier. Democrats have called the poll results an exaggeration, but whether the numbers are inflated or not, it is clear to me, as it should be to all Democrats, that we can no longer count on the minority votes as we have in the past. And the Party largely has itself to blame. People cannot be reasonably expected to stand with a party which makes grand, inspiring speeches about diversity and equality and the American Way, and then sits on its hands in the moments when something is needed besides a lot of pretty words. The series of African-American politicians protesting Bush’s election and not finding one single Democratic Senator willing to lend even the most symbolic support made me feel embarrassed for the Party.

I am a registered Democrat, but among the numerous constituencies which largely make up the Democratic Party’s support, I would most accurately be described as a Libertarian, and of those the subset of libertarians who vote their social views more than their economic views. I believe in the equality of all law-abiding Americans, regardless of race, gender, religion, or sexual orientation, which I regard as equally irrelevant to who you are as an individual, I may find abortion regrettable but believe it is best left between a woman and her doctor, and it has sometimes been with pride and enthusiasm but too often instead with embarrassment and frustration that I have witnessed the workings of the Democratic Party and its political figures.

We- by “we” I mean the Democratic Party- have let this go on far too long and taken far too many hits by the Republican opposition laying down. We have to do more, and most importantly, we have to mean it. No more taking people for granted, no making assumptions about who will vote for us, we have to give people a reason to vote for us, and we have to keep that reason valid in between the years in which we have a candidate running for President. We cannot sit back and watch helplessly as the conservatives appoint themselves as the guardians of moral virtue and purity in America and allow ourselves to come across as the enemies of all that is good and holy. We must define ourselves rather than letting our enemies define us.To quote President Bush, we need a “strategery.”
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nothingshocksmeanymore Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu Mar-24-05 04:10 PM
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1. hint..I stopped reading after the 3rd sentence..paragraphs
are our friends...I need some white space between all those words.
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davidinalameda Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu Mar-24-05 04:12 PM
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2. the current strategy is to be Repuke lite
abandon the GLBT community; abandon women; abandon the environmental movement, etc

is that the strategy you want?
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Langley85 Donating Member (96 posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu Mar-24-05 04:13 PM
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3. no....I said we need to be ourselves
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davidinalameda Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu Mar-24-05 05:47 PM
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10. the Democratic Party is running on empty right now
the so-called leaders and more than a few people on here are willing to sacrifice people who have been the backbone of the party for a few more votes

there is no "ourselves"

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wabranty Donating Member (123 posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu Mar-24-05 04:25 PM
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8. There was nothing like that in the message. . .
Langley had a great post which simply said that the Democrats need to have a strategy and do more than make nice speeches. There was nothing about abandoning parts of the Democratic party. All these communities are important but the Dems are more than just the sum of identity groups.

Why are Democrats so afraid of talking strategy? It seems like many activists think that strategy is a code word for ignoring the base of the party and appealing to angry, white Republican males. Nothing can be farther from the truth.

Read "How to Get Stupid White Men Out of Office: The Anti-Politics, Un-Boring Guide to Power" and then visit their website at http://www.indyvoter.org/. You can still be who you are AND win elections.:dem:
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Langley85 Donating Member (96 posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu Mar-24-05 05:14 PM
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9. Thank You, and I agree, we must be true to ourselves
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nothingshocksmeanymore Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu Mar-24-05 04:20 PM
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4. Thanks for the paragraph breaks
not entirely clear of the point that you are trying to make regarding the stats but most of those polls were proven bunk. We lost a bit of ground with minorities on some social issue but gained ground elsewhere.

While I agree in spirit with the issues you raise, the only misstep I see in this case (Schiavo) was a lack of organized talking points...Dems did a decent job letting Repubs step all over themselves..

As an opposition party, it's gonna have to happen on a local level. As long as we have certain Dems who will repeatedly vote with Republicans and as long as we are told an actual liberal or progressive CAN'T get elected in their locale we are screwed.
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Langley85 Donating Member (96 posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu Mar-24-05 04:25 PM
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7. first of all
we have to stop being “Republican Lite” as critics have dubbed us, and taking our party back to its roots: support for the working-class, support of civil rights, supporters of progressive policies taking America- and ourselves with her- into the future, not dragging her back in time to the “good old days”, as some conservatives would have you believe, when women, blacks, and gays were oppressed and legally inferior.
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blm Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu Mar-24-05 04:24 PM
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5. Get really REAL. The GOP pushed the gay issue on targeted black churches
and rewarded the ministers and their organizations handsomely.

Blame the Democrats for not hating gays.

Blame the Democrats and let those black ministers who pushed the anti-gay rhetoric of the Bush campaign for generous reward off the hook.

Blame the Democrats and let the Blackwells in this country who suppress the vote in black Dem precincts off the hook.

Blame the Democrats and let those black ministers who RevMoon has bought many times over off the hook.

Sorry, but the Dem platform is the best platform that ANY truly diverse party has ever put forth.

It's high time accountability for what REALLY happened be SHARED by those truly responsible. Why be afraid to point to the wrongness of a growing number of black ministers preaching hate against gays? Blackcommentator has pointed it out at their website.

Also...
Blaming the Democratic party lets the GOP controlled media off the hook and underscrutinized. Blaming the Democratic party lets the GOP control of most of the voting machines off the hook and underscrutinized.
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ghardy68 Donating Member (24 posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu Mar-24-05 04:24 PM
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6. Good Points
The African-American Community will never forget what the Dems did in 2000. NEVER!!! LBGT community will split the Democratic Party so lets leave that alone as well. The Former Party of the people are now caring about keeping their positions rather than fighting for whats right and for the people. I say disband the Party and form the Poor Peoples Party and lets get dirty with the Pig Elitist Repugnants Party
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rolltide322004 Donating Member (2 posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu Mar-24-05 11:04 PM
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11. It's about time
I'm new to the forum and this is only my second post. I totally agree with Langley85! It is sickening to watch what is happening to our country. We Democrats really need to start standing up TODAY and speak out on issues, especially ones we do not agree with from this Administration. If we don't, there will be another Republican in the White House in 2008.
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Langley85 Donating Member (96 posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri Mar-25-05 02:46 PM
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12. Thanks
apathy is lethal
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