Pelosi and Reid NOT supporting Roemer???

[Pirate Smile]

I found this in the Recommended Diaries on Kos

"As you guys know, I don't post often. I do stop by on occasion and when I do, I am usually impressed with the caliber of the posts.
That said, I am a bit stunned that a planted story could so easily be spread and reach so many. Pelosi is not supporting Roemer nor is Reid. In fact Reid confirmed to us that words are being "put in peoples'" mouths. This is the standard Bushy rah-rah squad not happy to see the Dems acting like adults while the Repugs fly-by-night bullshit continues to swallow them whole.

Because the Internet is so porous, it is easy to spread something assuming it is fact. We trust, after all, certain sources and we think they do their research. The problem is, the sources are not real and to track the original plant is liking looking for some integrity in Kenneth Blackwell. I am hoping that as most of you have learned by now, that these people think they are pulling frat pranks. What they are doing, in fact, is using Kos and other progressive blogs/forums/sites against their own interests. If you find something and it is tantalizing, then get an independent journalist to try and confirm it. You might also try calling, in this case, either Reid's or Pelosi's office to get confirmation. Or, you might actually not touch it and see what happens. The point is to not participate in this disinformation crap.

On that note, I will tell you a few things you should know and or do:

1). While the TV, Radio, and la-la land is trying to convince you that the Dems need to rebuild the party; the truth is the GOP is having a stroke on par with the Tsunami-size disaster. That is why (a little birdie told me) Newt and Novak have suddenly become the voice of reason. The Cons overreached to the point that their constituency are having a nervous breakdown. They know what the numbers in the election were, as most of us do (and I wish I could present what I know, however I cannot verify it enough even though I know it to be true). They know what the majority is and I assure you, it is not in the fringes of Falwell's pimp brigade. If they are working this hard to get everyone to argue, it is clear that they are worried (and little birds sing all the time). So stop worrying about the Dem party and keep your eye on the ball.

2). The Social Security scam is their entire downfall and indeed may have already taken the greedy bastards down. So have fun and don't worry... greed has no loyalty and when money stops flooding, all hands will abandon ship.

3). Give Kerry a break. You don't know what happened (trust me). Just let his life speak for him and you will see that he has always been the one fighting these people. I admit I lost my mind for a bit and was also angry with him. My anger was aimed at the wrong direction. Little birds sing and there are things you cannot possibly know with regard to what happened. Stop playing into this smear campaign."

it continues at
http://www.dailykos.com/story/2005/1/13/204618/730

As for who the poster is - I found this "Larisa Staff Writer - Raw Story/Blue Lemur [e-mail] http://www.rawstory.com Yahoo IM: sabinkstranded" - further down in the comments section so use that in determining the amount of credibility you give it.

[Goldeneye]

1. I've been thinking about the republican party a lot lately...

that's almost half of what this forum is about. I keep wondering where Bush got all those new voters. I keep wondering how long the hard core Bush supporters can hold out loving Bush Co before all the disinformation makes their brains explode. Maybe I'm over estimating the right wing mind (I probably am) but I keep thinking that some of them, especially the swing voters from this election will come around.

It really does seem unlikely that this country has been on a crash course since the 2000 selection, and yet the GOP made gains in both elections? It just doesn't add up.

Final note: I've never read this lady's writing before, and I hope she knows what she's talking about.

[fnottr]

2. I want to believe her

but as she says, you can't believe everything on the internet, so how do I know what she says about the GOP imploding is true?

[whometense]

3. Oh my word,

you found a way to make me sit up and pay attention at this late hour.

I read RawStory pretty regularly, and their reporting seems pretty solid.

Thank you so much for posting this. I rarely go over to Kos any more, and reading this diary made my night.

[Liberty Belle]

4. If Social Security is their Achilles heel...let's act now!

We need to devote a full-on effort to get the word out on this issue.

Brochure makers, get busy! Can you make us some flyers to expose the Bush lies about his Social Security "reform", which is actually a plan to destroy Social Security and share the spoils with his corporate campaign donors?

Can you start posting links to senior newspapers? Maybe we should start a new thread for the blue-hair patrol.

[DaedelusNemo]

6. Is there a way to upload if one was made? /nt

[DaedelusNemo]

5. I hate this hinting crap!

In what way did the "Cons" overreach?

What is all that about the numbers in the election?

What are 'things we cannot possibly know with regard to what happened?'

Why shouldn't i assume this is simply someone trying to squelch rumors and movement?

Somebody help me here.

[Adelante]

7. My question, exactly

"Why shouldn't i assume this is simply someone trying to squelch rumors and movement?"

[mattclearing]

8. This is kind of where I'm at right now as well.

That's why I refuse to get on Kerry, and why I try to get people to back off their unwarranted criticisms of the Democratic Party on the whole.

While we aren't perfect, we're obviously nowhere near as fucked up as the Republican Party is. Even if you believe their national numbers, they had to lie (global test), cheat (Swift liars) and steal (Ohio) to get it.

They are fucked, and the liberal constituency is still every bit as mad as hell as they were on November 1st.

[Pirate Smile]

9. Right! People can't just stick their heads in the sand for awhile and

ignore what is happening because it is too painful.

Bush is planning on getting his Bushbots to pressure Congress to do his bidding by campaigning locally around the Country. We have to stay in the game and apply more pressure from the other side.

We need to get organized for 2006.

Wailing and gnashing our teeth time is over.

[EFerrari]

10. I see some problems with this statement.

1. If the Dem leadership thinks the party is in such good shape, why did they all go on the talk shows the weekend after the election and start talking about moral values? And, by the way, who were they talking to (who was their intended audience)? Doesn't make sense.

2. No one's life speaks for itself. That's just avoidance. (Notice, this isn't a comment about Kerry but about the rhetoric in this post.) And this whole post seems manipulative. Birds may sing but I'll never vote for one. And this is no way to bridge the leadership gap that has existed since 11/3.

Opinion: The party leadership has two problems, the GOP and the expanding progressive base. And the latter is a bigger problem because we destabilize the power structure. So, this talk about moving to the center really is more about keeping the power centers in the party where they are.

And, I think we won the election, that the Dems and progressives of other stripes have put together a powerful coalition but it's a feisty one that the DLC and other party elites are more suspicious of than the devil the know, the GOP.

Okay, what am I missing?

[MontanaMaven]

11. Roemer thinks Pelosi is supporting him

I watched the C-Span Democratic Southern Caucus last Saturday. The candidates for DNC took questions from DNC state and county officials. Roemer said that he must be OKAY with women since Pelosi urged him to run. It's on tape. Watch tomorrow. They will be at the Midwest Caucus.

[EFerrari]

12. Interesting. I will. Thanks. n/t

[Freddie Stubbs]

16. Urging someone to run may be different than actually supporting them

Keep in mind that some of these politicians are very skillful in their use of the English language.

[msongs]

13. you are missing elected Dems talking publicly about election fraud.....

cause there are just a few doing so and the rest are NOT.

Msongs
www.msongs.com/political-shirts.htm

[madfloridian]

14. Roemer said Pelosi was. He said it in Atlanta.

So he thinks she is.

[imenja]

15. I heard that too

Roemer said Pelosi asked him to run for DNC chair. It bothers me when people write things as though they have some great inside authority without revealing the source of their information or who they are.

[Maat]

17. I'm not worried about PROGRESSIVES at all ...

because I'm very involved at the grassroots level. What I see in my little red pocket in a blue state (Cal): progressive organizations are growing so fast those of us trying to maintain the list cannot keep up. The attendance at the meetings of the various progressive orgs. is so large that we are seeking meeting places that can hold more people regularly. And our bases is loyal, the support is solid, and people are committed to progressive causes, and not going away. They can register as 'independent,' 'green,' 'democrat,' or whatever, but they will unite when it counts.

I don't see much happening with the rightwing orgs. They peaked at election time, and just can't seem to keep up the frenetic activity. They can't keep up the enthusiasm. And their websites have nothing to say, while, in my humble opinion, progressive sites have plenty to say.

And progressives are used to debate - used to light arguing. We just don't worry that much about it, and move on.

Just my humble personal observations.