Radio Voice for Dem party: Hate Radio must be equalled by our own Network

[oscar111]

We lose because

WE HAVE NO VOICE.

GOP has 1,200 Hate Radio stations in just one of their networks.

Soundbites during campaigns can never explain our "novel" ideas. We need hours to deliver our reasoning, just like Limbaugh needs hours.

Demand that all DNC members and Chair --
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Either

1. Subsidize AAR, or

2. Create DemNet to broadcast in areas not covered by AAR.
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An agreement between the two would avoid wasteful competition in any one area. DemNet would likely then expand into the South and Midwest.

Radio pays for itself on election day.

We desperately need AAR: we should lavishly help it, or create our own version for uncovered areas.

[chicagojoe]

1. If we can get it going, contact me. I'd like to do a show.

I'm in the Chicago x-urbs.

[xBobx804]

8. Ill be your co-host joe

I'd be glad to to a show or even work the traffic desk at a libral radio station.

As somebody who as worked in radio here is the huge problem. You can only fit a limited number of stations between 88.1 and 107.9 FM not to mention 530 to 1690AM. With current FCC regulations you will find that the radio spectrum is full. All the powerful stations are owned by the big broadcasters. Even if we were to squeze in a station it wouldn't be as nearly as powerful as our republican counterparts

[oscar111]

2. "Progressive cant win"problem solved by AAR moving grassroots left, BEFORE

the campaign moves them a tiny bit left.

The old problem, nominate a "GOP lite" who does better in the polls, or nominate a progressive ---
{who, like Kucinich, got 1% in general polls {IIRC},....}

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this problem is solved if AAR can have years to move the grassroots to the LW -- BEFORE the campaign.

Then Kuci will do well in general polls at the outset of primaries.
Campaigns seem to move the grassroots only weakly. Soundbites are weak.

Tired of being "GOP lite"? Then have the DNC get massive cash behind AAR or our version of it in non-competiting areas.

It is parallel to how NeoCons solved their problem of "Ultraright can't win".

[DaedelusNemo]

4. Yes, outriders can give political cover

We've seen Fox do this for the repubs. Say something far enough out there that what the repubs say sounds moderate.

[eg101]

10. so very few DUers seem to see this truth

and many do not WANT to see it.

I agree with you of course, with some qualifications: one, AAR is not a vehicle to move America left, as it is now. Right now, it is simply an exploiter of the dearth of Democratic-oriented media. It exploits a niche to find viewers. They have no goal to seperate themselves from the party and dwell on underlying fundamental questions. In fact, AAR is more like HATE radio than the rightwing radio, at least sometimes. From what I have heard of them, they do not use a fundamental leftist/progressive economic foundation. They do however use a they do a fundamental leftist/progressive SOCIAL foundation. Of course, that is one of the main problems with the Democratic party--it is socially leftist and not economically leftist.

I say we take matters into our own hands: develop prototypes of media products (written, audio and video educational/propaganda) and deliver them straight to the voters, after offering them up online asking for funds to run them in newspapers, radio, and TV.

And you are completely correct in that when most people see or hear something that they see as associated with politics, then just tune out. That is why these media products cannot be associated with any party, and why they should be nonpartisan--which is of course the exact opposite of AAR.

[bliss_eternal]

3. kick

[oscar111]

5. kick nt

[Nile]

6. Are you planning on "Nice" radio to cancel out "Hate" radio?

Or just another "Hate" radio from a different perspective?

[RandomKoolzip]

7. Well, I want the latter.

Goodness knows, we wouldn't want an effective, relevant party, would we?

[eg101]

11. but to get real change we need to deal with fundamental questions

....and NOT partisan politics.

The VAST majority of Americans simply TUNE OUT any information that they see as associated with politics. Gee, I wonder why?

That is one reason why the rightwing propaganda machine has been so effective--their ideas are first disseminated through media-entertainment-informational avenues, and so the viewer/listener is far more susceptible to the underlying framework of ideas.
Then, later, the GOP politicians come in and reap, and leverage the frames already set up by the Rightwing propaganda machine.
My current idea is to buy ad space in small town newspapers in swing and primary states, and then run comic strips in those spots. These comic strips would NOT deal with the hate-bush-bfee-gop-is-evil nonsense that runs rampant here and on AAR, but instead would deal with fundamental ideas about what America is, where it came from, and where it is headed, and how it compares to other western industrialized countries, all of which would be centered around an economics framework....

[mandyky]

9. The media is as important as voting reform

I don't think AAR would do well in red states, especially in the rural areas.

What the DNC needs to dois get a few radio shows on in the red states, like the Guy James Show in Florida. I think personalities like Ed Schultz would play there, but they should be local folks, and they should mix in debate about local and state issues as well as national ones.

What we really need is for George Soros and the rich liberals to start a TV station with real news, maybe in the model of CSpans Washington Journal, as well as these think tanks. These folks could start one themselves or provide venture capital to individuals.

Also, the Lonestar Iconclast (Crawford Texas) is looking to reformat since they endorsed Kerry. Are there other newspapers the party can help?

Hate radio, like Rush and Hannity, is what has made liberal a dirty word. We have to demand more parity in broadcasting talk shows.