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papau Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri Aug-19-05 08:21 AM
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What Democrats Should Be Saying
http://www.washingtonpost.com/wp-dyn/content/article/2005/08/18/AR2005081801645.html


washingtonpost.com
What Democrats Should Be Saying

By David Ignatius
Friday, August 19, 2005; A21



<snip>Because they lack coherent plans for how to govern the country, the Democrats have become captive of the most shrill voices in the party, who seem motivated these days mainly by visceral dislike of George W. Bush. Sorry, folks, but loathing is not a strategy -- especially when much of the country finds the object of your loathing a likable guy.

The Democrats' problem is partly a lack of strong leadership. Its main spokesman on foreign policy has become Sen. Joseph Biden, a man who -- how to put this politely? -- seems more impressed with the force of his own intellect than an objective evaluation would warrant. Listening to Biden, you sense how hungry he is to be president, but you have little idea what he would do, other than talk . . . and talk.

The same failing is evident among Democratic spokesmen on economic issues. Name a tough problem -- such as energy independence or reform of Medicare and Social Security -- and the Democrats are ducking the hard choices. That may be understandable as a short-term political strategy: Why screw up your chances in the 2006 congressional elections by telling people they must make sacrifices? But this approach keeps the Democrats part of politics-as-usual, a game the GOP plays better.

Howard Dean is a breath of air as chairman of the Democratic National Committee -- but unfortunately a lot of it is hot air. Dean is admirably combative, and in that he reflects a party that is tired of being mauled by Karl Rove's divisive campaigning. The problem with Dean is that, like his party, he doesn't have much to say about solving problems. Pressed about Iraq last Sunday on CBS's "Face the Nation," Dean passed the buck: "What we need is a plan from the president of the United States." Rather than condemn a NARAL Pro-Choice America ad against the Supreme Court nomination of Judge John G. Roberts that was so outrageous it was pulled from the air, Dean averred: "I'm not even going to get into that."<snip>

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TwilightZone Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri Aug-19-05 08:27 AM
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1. "Because they lack coherent plans for how to govern the country"
Edited on Fri Aug-19-05 08:27 AM by TwilightZone
Sorry, this article lost me there. This is such a load of crap, and I'm really tired of the media - and plenty of DUers, for that matter - claiming that we never have any "coherent plans".

Many Democratic candidates in '04 had very detailed plans re: many of the issues - taxes, SS, health care, Iraq, etc.

In fact, Kerry got blasted constantly by the media and by plenty of Democrats for being TOO detailed.
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SHRED Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri Aug-19-05 08:36 AM
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3. Exactly
Keeping up this "lack of plan" from the Dems myth is destructive.

Do a little research on the Democrat Party website, listen to Democrat representatives, and by a wide majority they are on the same page and with a much better plan than the Repugs.

I personally like the Green's platform better but I understand the game.
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papau Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri Aug-19-05 08:46 AM
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4. coherent plan equals one that with one short sentence is understood
we have multi-page ideas that of late have not not been reduced to a few words that would fit in a 15 second ad.

Indeed by speaking about those ideas constantly with the 15 second buzzword always at the front we get the buzzword to have an immediate meaning it might not have otherwise.

We are not training our listener to hear what we are saying.
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TwilightZone Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri Aug-19-05 08:58 AM
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5. More likely, we're overestimating the intelligence of the voting public.
Or underestimating their apathy.

I'll buy the coherent vs. complicated argument, but the Republicans are certainly no more coherent. In fact, they are intentionally obtuse and their plan is generally to confuse the hell out of people.

And then haul out the scare tactics for the ones that aren't sufficiently confused.
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papau Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri Aug-19-05 09:00 AM
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6. complicated argument if fine - but it must be sold as short phrase and
a motive that is not evil but indeed in "good"
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TwilightZone Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri Aug-19-05 09:42 AM
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8. It's not as if we don't do that now.
Health care for everyone.
Worker protections, more jobs, better pay, better benefits.
Equal rights and protection for everyone.
Eliminate hunger and poverty.
Protect the environment.

And so on....

We have good ideas and our motives are fine. We do not, however, control the media, and the media interpretation of our motives and ideas is the problem.

Unfortunately, too many people buy into that media interpretation and perspective and then assume that we don't have coherent ideas.
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papau Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri Aug-19-05 10:54 AM
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9. true - the media laughs at our phrases - good media Christians believe
no one without a habit or collar wants good to happen without a piece of the action coming from the increase personal/family wealth motive.

That attitude proves those media Christians are wise and worldly - and superior to the new hires.
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BronxBriar Donating Member (10 posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Mon Aug-22-05 10:25 PM
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10. But do we have a viable way of proceeding?
You mention not only good ideas but great ideas. The only question is do we have a viable way of proceeding that we can 'sell' to the american electorate? Do we even have a viable alternative to the Iraq mess that Bush got us in, other than to just cut and run? We need not just good ideas but real plans for the implementation of those ideas. As a new Democrat, I am hoping to hear substance from democratic leadership in the days, weeks, and months ahead.

As well as providing your own point of view, please feel free to suggest sources of information that may answer my questions.

Regards.

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Ken Burch Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sun Aug-28-05 04:04 PM
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12. Exactly. Democrats need to update Mario Cuomo's maxim
about "campaigning in poetry and governing in prose"(I'm paraphrasing it slightly)by finding a way to campaign in hip-hop.

We need to sound strong, clear, committed and unashamed.
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dogday Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri Aug-19-05 08:32 AM
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2. Where are they now?
I saw Dean yesterday and Biden on weekend news show, but they have been so quiet...
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Kolesar Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri Aug-19-05 09:02 AM
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7. If the Dems take a position on Iraq, the gop &media will distort it
Therefore the Dems buy time while bush skids into the gutter. Watch for the 'pukes to launch a major distraction campaign in about a month. It will be about Iran or about "values" like gay adoption.
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cunextuesday Donating Member (1 posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue Aug-23-05 09:48 AM
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11. Fred On Everything
Some musings by a favorite essayist; Fred Reed. Enjoy.

I wonder whether liberal democracies do not follow an ordained trajectory into the muck, ripening like fruits, having their arteries harden, and falling, plop, to be eaten by birds and snails. (That was a two-animal medico-vegetative ballistic metaphor, not so much mixed as homogenized, almost colloidal. Patent applied for.) I note that the English-speaking countries are doing to themselves exactly what the United States is doing, and the Europeans, though better educated and more cultivated, follow. Maybe there is a pattern.

Now, any time I refer to the United States as a democracy, I get mail, from people vaguely remembering high-school civics, who tell me that the US is not a democracy but a constitutional republic. In fact it is neither. A democracy is of course any governmental system in which ultimate power rests with the people; direct democracies, parliamentary democracies, and constitutional republics are all examples of democracy. In America, the people are nearly powerless, in large part without knowing it. The trick has been done by giving them furiously fought elections that don’t mean anything. This distracts them and gives them a sense of participation, while maintaining their proper role as consumers.

The United States is not the country it thinks it is. It moves fast toward a curious comfortable despotism. This is of course precisely what people want. A few observations:

America does not have a free press. The media are big business and speak for those who own big business. They lie and distort and always have. Now, however, they all lie and distort identically; here is the rub. Their function is to herd the sheep. The public knows only what it is allowed to know, except for the tiny few who go to the internet. “Political correctness” is not an annoying fad. It is a deadly serious means of preventing public discussion of things that those in power do not want discussed (for example, race, affirmative action, illegal immigration.)

In the words of the great political philosopher Fredwitz, democracy is communism continued by other means. Pretty much, anyway.

Though it may run counter to intuition, the press itself has little interest in freedom of the press; this is why freedom is so easily denied. Journalism is first a job. It is second a job with rich perquisites: A reporter travels abroad, attends exciting events, enjoys privileges unheard of among mere citizenry. It’s a racket. Only a cantankerous few would risk these wonders for the sake of telling the truth. They are soon weeded out.

The will of the people? Hardly. Americans do not determine any policy that matters. (E.g., regarding race, affirmative….) The techniques for guaranteeing an unnoticed helplessness are simple but brilliant. First, people are never permitted to vote for policies, but an only for one of two essentially identical presidential candidates who prate identically about Getting the Country Moving, and No Child Left Behind. The results determine not policy but patronage. Second, power is concentrated in remote anonymous bureaucracies, rendering policy impervious to attack. Third, there is the federal tactic of taxing the states and returning the money in exchange for obedience.

The people do not rule. Nor do they have freedoms inconvenient to the government. But then, they do not want freedom.

We are seeing I think that letting people govern themselves doesn’t work. I don’t say that it is undesirable, but merely impractical. (Letting them think they have power, however, is splendidly sensible, as it keeps them quiescent.) More succinctly, democracies aren’t stable. They tend toward well-fed dictatorship. Why? Because the bright, grasping, and conscienceless inevitably rise.

The people lack the intelligence to govern any entity larger than a very small town. Particularly in the United States they read little, think less, know almost nothing of history, geography, the nature and politics of the world beyond the borders. They are thus easily swayed, frightened, enraged, gulled, and led into dog-pack patriotism by those, far smarter and more aware, who understand the levers of power. They so quickly give up liberty to those who offer to protect them. They are eager to do it. Look around you.

I have seen it said that the national character of the United States safeguards the country against despotism. I doubt it. National character may exist at a given moment, but it is easily changed. A spirit of hardy independence, of “Don’t Tread On Me” and so on, cannot outlive the independence itself. America is no longer a nation of rifle-toting frontiersmen or self-sufficient farmers. It is a nation of employees. On average they are heavily indebted, imprisoned by the retirement system, unable to farm, fish, hunt, defend themselves, change their spark plugs or build a shelter. They cannot live without the state, which leaves…who in charge?

A curious phenomenon, of uncertain provenance though I have heard many theories, is the national promotion of psychic weakness as a virtue. Some of it surpasses parody. I see that teachers are eliminating red pencils for grading papers because the violence of the color might shock the sensibilities of the students. There is much of this. Presumably the effect, and perhaps the intention, is a cowering race of pitiable and self-pitying weaklings unable to withstand, well, much of anything. A red pencil, for example. Dreadful things, those pencils.

People want neither freedom nor democracy. They want a soothing mother domestically and an outlet, preferably overseas, for anger.

While political democracy does not exist, cultural democracy does. It can exist because it does not threaten those who govern. The common run of humanity has no interest in learning anything or in any sort of intellectual betterment. They resent anything they see as indicating superiority in others, though, and want assurance that, as kids used to say in Alabama, “you ain’t no gooder’n me.” The degradation of the schools serves to eliminate obvious distinction, improve docility, avoid unwanted study, and make people consumers of witless amusement provided from above, as for example terrible music and awful movies.

All of the foregoing I believe serve to make the public a somnolent mass paying taxes, buying things, and directing little attention to larger matters. The only freedoms most want are the freedom to drive nice cars, watch 300 channels on the cable, drink beer, and take an occasional vacation. Freedom matters to intellectuals. For most, prosperity suffices.

A friend recently returned from China and told me, “As long as you don’t screw with the government, it doesn’t screw with you. It’s not Burundi. I hate the bastards, but the economy is getting better and people go along. It could be lots worse.”

Convergence.


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welshTerrier2 Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Mon Sep-05-05 10:06 AM
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13. great essay - lots of food for thought ...
welcome to DU, cunextuesday !!

i'm operating on the premise that the following line isn't true: "People want neither freedom nor democracy. They want a soothing mother domestically and an outlet, preferably overseas, for anger."

if it is, it's going to make fighting for the ideals of democracy impossible to achieve ...
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Indy Lurker Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sat Nov-12-05 05:01 PM
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14. People have what they think they want.
that's why they aren't actively revolting.

Sure they have no savings, and will be in debt till their dead, but they have a nice leather couch and a plasma screen tv, and no payments for 18 months.

Too many people are caught up in their day to day lives to care about the big picture.

The good folks of New Orleans had 30 yrs to fix their levees, and did nothing. Now after the disaster, the mayor holds a meeting, and hundreds of residences demand immediate action. Where were these people for the last 30 years when something could have solved much easier and cheaper.

If they had put 1/10 of the pressure on the mayor that they are now, it would have been fixed a long time ago.

But back in 2004 when your choices were going to a meetings and writing letters on the condition of the levees, or watching American Idol on your plasma screen, too many chose the latter.


BUT THE TIDE IS TURNING

Just like in the early 1970's, young people are losing friends in a foreign war. The response is weaker than it was because the loss (to date) has been much less, and the Armed Services are all volenteer.

And everyone likes a tax cut, until they realize the benefit cuts outweight the tax savings.

But these things take time.

We are a consumption driven society, in which the customer is always right.

This is the problem with healthcare. The employer (who pays for the coverage) is the customer, not the patient. To fix healthcare, we need to make the patient the customer.

In elections, the voter is not the customer, the people buying TV ads are the customer.

Unfornately, whoever spends the most on TV ads, gets the most votes. This is a huge problem.

If were are going to continue living in a consumer based society, we have to make our citizens the customers.

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