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papau Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed May-10-06 10:30 AM
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Do the Dems have a short response to the lesser of 2 evils pro-GOP mantra?
http://www.oregonlive.com/letters/oregonian/index.ssf?/base/editorial/114722074713950.xml&coll=7&thispage=2

Democrats don't change


Reading the letters from Portland complaining of George Bush and the Republican carpetbaggers in Washington is like reading a litany of the ills of growing old. The complaints are serious until one considers the alternative.

Democrats have not changed their spots. They still endorse abortion at will. They would still abolish the Second Amendment. They still espouse gay marriage. They always favor high taxes. They still promote activist judges who amend the Constitution without benefit of the amendment procedure. They currently promote amnesty for illegals. They still believe that the way to deal with Islamo-fascist murderers is negotiation.

Deplorable as they may be, the reasons for sending the Republicans to Washington have not gone away.
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ayeshahaqqiqa Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed May-10-06 10:42 AM
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1. If you think the Dems favor high taxes,
I would suggest you look at the soaring deficit Bush has given us. And Dems don't demand abortions-they demand a woman be given a choice. They don't want to gut the Second Amendment either-but how many hunters use an AK-47 to kill a deer? Seems to me the rethugs are the ones who support an activist president who is bent on trashing the Constitution.
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papau Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed May-10-06 11:11 AM
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4. But how do we get the media to stop repeating the GOP words/spin? n/t
n/t
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ayeshahaqqiqa Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed May-10-06 12:41 PM
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7. Create a new media
This is already happening. The circulation of newspapers is way down, and the influence of programs like The Daily Show is actually becoming stronger than some "news" programs. Many folks I know now don't trust the MSM and get all their news online. Frankly, I think online news is the wave of the future, because people can, if they want, google and get news from many different viewpoints and then make up their own mind about things.
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jwirr Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed May-10-06 10:53 AM
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2. My answer as an advocate for both the poor and my daughter
who is severely disabled is very simple. No Democrats do not change. While the repugs represent ONLY the rich the Democratic Party has from the time of FDR to now represented all levels of society. That is the bottom line for me and my family.
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papau Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed May-10-06 11:10 AM
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3. I like that answer! :-)
:-)
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jwirr Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed May-10-06 11:14 AM
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5. Thank you. I recognized you as a fellow advocate,
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dave123williams Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed May-10-06 11:53 AM
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6. Start by calling a LIE a LIE
They still endorse abortion at will.

It's more like it's none of my business if someone needs an abortion. It's none of Government's business, either.

They would still abolish the Second Amendment.

Where'd you get that idea? We just make the argument that the 2nd ammendment is kind of outmoded. It was originally there so that you could organize militias, and defend your home from anyone - including the government. Guess what? If the government wants to roll you, they're going to roll you. They've got .50 cal machine guns and tanks. You don't.

They still espouse gay marriage.

And why not? I'd call it espousing 'equal protection under the law'. Conservatives make the same 'special privilidges shouldn't be extended to gays' argument that they made when it was time to decide if it was ok for blacks to vote. They haven't changed, they're made of stuff that has to be bigoted against *something*, and they're still dead wrong.

Tell you what; if you can show me how a gay marriage will undermine your traditional marriage to the point of ending it, you've got my vote.

They always favor high taxes.

Ah, yes. The old 'you're a tax-and-spend liberal' charge. Better than being a Republican. Republicans seem to be 'spend, spend, spend, spend, spend, spend, spend and then cut taxes during a war. Then spend some more.' Yeah; that's way more responsible.


They still promote activist judges who amend the Constitution without benefit of the amendment procedure.


And by 'activist' they mean any ruling they disagree with. This should scare the s&*t out of you, the prospective voter. They, the GOP, believe as part of their official platform that the executive (Bush) is more qualified to make decisions than judges actually versed in the law. They seem to believe that he's a king, fit to decide which laws he will obey and which he won't, which laws he will enforce and which he'll ignore.

Somehow, Republicans have gotten the idea that they're above the courts, that it's ok to attack and undermine the bench all while spewing hollow rhetoric about how America's so great because it's all about the rule of law.

They currently promote amnesty for illegals.

Oh, that's not true. We promote the full prosecution of employers who break the law. That's what you mean by 'illegals', right?

They still believe that the way to deal with Islamo-fascist murderers is negotiation.

Close, but no cigar. We believe that you don't understand what the word fascist actually means. We also believe that murderers should be tried and convicted, not summarily executed. You know, that whole 'rule of law' thing.

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ayeshahaqqiqa Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed May-10-06 12:46 PM
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8. Touche
Excellent responses to every point! Bravo :yourock:
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papau Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed May-10-06 02:25 PM
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9. Excellent answers n/t
n/t
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Ken Burch Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu May-18-06 06:55 PM
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10. Just for the info of non-Oregonians,
the writer of that letter is from GRANTS PASS.

That's George Wallace and survivalist country, and Democrats haven't carried it since the Woodrow Wilson days.

In other words, consider the source.
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