Senator Lieberman...want to help unify Democrats? retire gracefully now.

[Ken Burch]

The Lamont showing at the convention shows even the most loyal party members in your state are turning against you.

According to many convention delegates, if it had been a secret ballot Ned Lamont would have done even better.

You've lost the arguement on the war, in the party and without.

You're losing allies. You may very well lose the primary.
If you lose and then run as an independent just to stop Lamont("Doing a Javits", as they'd call it in New York)no one will ever forgive you.
Even if you squeak through the primary, you'd just barely be reelected and you'd eternally be a figure who inspired bitterness.

It doesn't have to come to that.

You've had a good run, Senator. If you gracefully retire now, you leave unbeaten, you look like a statesman, and you end your Senate career unbeaten.

C'mon Joe. Move on to the next stage in your life. They're probably hiring at AEI. You'll feel better about it, you'll look honorable and heroic. Democrats everywhere will thank you for saving the safest Democratic Senate seat in the country.

There's no real downside.

[Kagemusha]

1. Oh come on, we know it's not about the party.

The party has to prove itself worthy of Lieberman, not the other way around. After all, he's got gravitas! He's a statesman! He's one of the great political leaders of our time! if the Democrats aren't worthy of him, then it's just their fault! The Republicans know how vital and important he is, after all.

[opihimoimoi]

2. Are we saying Joe should be replaced by a PUB???

Are we nuts?

[Kagemusha]

3. I'd prefer him to be replaced by a Dem named Lamont.

Perhaps you have heard of him?

[opihimoimoi]

4. Is he of repute?? Will he be a Senator we can be proud of?

Does he possess our values of Charity and Caring for the masses?

Can he win against a Pub contender?

A Dem in hand is worth 2 Dems in the bush...?

[Kagemusha]

5. Yes, yes, yes, in CT, probably, and that's a coward's choice.

In order.

I remind you that the term Democrat In Name Only applies to Lieberman better than any senator since Zell Miller. Besides, he hasn't renounced the idea of running as an independent if Democrats won't back him. Sure, if you like your party being blackmailed by your own incumbent senators into protecting incumbents from the democratic process, Lieberman's a great choice. But with caucus members like this, who needs Republicans?

[opihimoimoi]

6. iF HE IS THAT BAD, WHY IS 62% STILL SUPPORTING HIM??

sorry for screamin

I am worried about dudes contesting our Dems to weaken them ....

Its an ole Pub trick...thats all...

RI has one such dude trying to run for Senator(if elected it will be first office held...a noob, rookie)...was a Pub, ran as an INDIE 2 years ago, and now wants to run for Senator as a DEM....we were 3rd pick...some kinda Dem...

I am worried the Solution will turn out worse than the percieved Problem... It happened to Grey Davis in Cali....He was set up and now look...Arnie looking Bad....

[Kagemusha]

7. You're uh, arguing Ned Lamont is a Republican?

You have anything to back that up?....

[opihimoimoi]

8. I didn't say that...but what is his HISTORY?? Has he been a Dem

for 2 years, for 20? That would make a diff.

I worry for the Pubs setting us up, a bit paranoid I guess...

Was he ever a Republican? For How long?(His blog don't explain enough) (all generic stuffs)

What will he do for our country in terms of advancement, research, etc...what is HIS PHILOSOPHY with re to our FUTURE?

This man has not been elected to office...he will be weak against a vet Pub....

I am very worried.

[Kagemusha]

9. Bloggers I trust back him 100%.

That includes Kos, the ladies at firedoglake.com, and Atrios. People who've met him in person find him to be a very strong candidate whose head and heart is in the right place. If that is not good enough for you, so be it. And yes, you sound very paranoid. Check the blogs, do a little research, and discover that he's one of the good guys and the party is lucky to have him.

And unlike Lieberman, he's pledged to back the winner of the Democratic primary no matter who it is. How many Republicans would do that?

[Ken Burch]

10. There's no Pub trick here.

Ned Lamont is a genuinely positive and progressive newcomer. He has developed this strong base of support because of his willingness to encompass antiwar and pro-Democratic viewpoints.

The idea of a GOP plot in this case is nothing but a Benchleyite delusion. There's no downside to Lamont.

[opihimoimoi]

11. The info I got was from his own website...yes, it is full of positiveness

and I will have to trust you and the others who have been convinced.

In these days of Rove and his crew...GOP Plots are not Benchleyite Delusion....as we have found out in the past...IE Florida 2000;

Ohio 2004; etc.

One last time; Has this guy ever been a Republican?? His own website does not say he was a DEM all his life...he might be another carlsheeler from RI who I suspect is a plant....

And: is he willing to come to the DU and answer questions???

[Ken Burch]

12. I don't know that he has been a Democrat all his life

I also don't know that that isn't necessarily a prerequisite.(Hillary, after all, started as a Republican).

I suspect that Lamont would be willing to come to DU and answer questions, but you'd have to ask him yourself.

Another good thing about Lamont is his wife, Annie, who is a progressive Christian theologian who has expounded a social message that ties in with both the human and spiritual needs that voters have. I believe she has influenced her husband's thinking.

And his father, Corliss Lamont, was a radical activist in the early years of the twentieth century who is still regarded well in many circles.

So no, Ned Lamont may be a newcomer to electoral politics, but progressives and Democrats have little reason to be wary of him.

[opihimoimoi]

13. OK, I'll backoff a bit.....its just those Pubs are so damn conniving and

devious....

[Ken Burch]

14. True. But that doesn't mean the entire human race is.

(And when you read the posts of the Benchley, basically you should disregard them. Benchley isn't really on our side. His overall tone proves that.)

[Ken Burch]

16. Need to add a correction here:

I just realized that I had Ned Lamont's wife, Annie, confused with Annie LAMOTT, a progressive theologian and author. Please disregard that line in the above post. Sorry.

[Moloch]

15. Where does it say that 62 percent support LIEberman?

The latest polls I've seen show him with only a 3 point lead over Lamont.

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[Ken Burch]

18. Hi Benchley!

Really been knockin' em back again, have we?