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papau Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed Oct-18-06 08:17 AM
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Will the Dems set up any facility/procedure to check the machines?
A loaves & fishes/Holy Ghost victory for the GOP in November?
by Bob Fitrakis & Harvey Wasserman
October 17, 2006

The polls all point to a Democratic sweep in November. The news pours in about pedophile Republicans and Team Bush contempt for their fundamentalist bedmates. Iraq implodes. Deficits soar. Katrina lingers. Scandal is everywhere.

On the other hand, there are rumors of an "October Surprise." An attack on Iran. A new terror incident. Osama finally captured.

Gas prices are down, the stock market up.

None of it dampens the Democrats' euphoria. They think they are about to win. In conventional terms, they should.

But think again. Please.

It will take just two Biblical fixes for the GOP to keep the Congress, and thus solidify their power in this country, possibly forever: a loaves and fishes vote count, a Holy Ghost turnout.

We coined the phrase "loaves and fishes vote count" to describe the tally in Gahanna, Ohio, 2004. This infamous precinct in suburban Columbus registered 4258 votes for George W. Bush where just 638 people voted. The blessed event occurred at a fundamentalist church run by a close ally of the Reverend Jerry Falwell.

~snip~

And the Democrats? They say they are also turning out voters. But what happens when their names are miraculously gone from the new electronic registration rolls? When there aren't enough machines in their precincts on which to vote? When they press a Democratic name on their touch-screen and an anointed Republican's lights up? Or when techno-gods from private partisan vendors barge in unchallenged to "adjust" the e-machines in the middle of the voting process.

So far, the Democrats have heaped abuse on those who dare to warn of all this.

But as it is written, so it shall be: unless there are armies of trained, dedicated citizens prepared to monitor this upcoming election, electronic and otherwise, the Holy Ghosts will vote, the loaves & fishes will multiply and be counted, and the GOP will once again emerge with total control of the checks and the balances---this time, perhaps, for all Eternity.
http://www.freepress.org/departments/display/19/2006/2181

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MY VIEW :If there is an adequate testing of the machines the day of the election -
all is well.

That means turning the machine on and telling it that this is a real election and test recording faked votes that are in total the number of votes expected at that location.

If all checks out, all is well, erase the results of the test election and go on to record votes in the real election. But I understand this is not possible.

The machines have a test mode, and an election mode - and not erasing the results of the real election is (at least I am told it is) part of our "protections" provided by the GOP owners of these companies.

I would appreciate it is someone could find the actual instructions to the precinct worker boss that sets up the machines so that one could see if a proper test could be run.

While the test would not mean the memory card virus/worm game was stopped, it would mean the last minute software change approach that occurred in 04 is stopped, at least on a mass basis.

Techs doing Memory card insertion tests that did the worm could be prevented by rule - don't do such tests - but no election worker is going to stop such "tests" if the instructions do not say stop any such "test", especially if the company's tech says to allow it.

I agree it is not hard to stop the "skulduggery" - but I do not believe any effort is being made to do so. So we would be back to exit polls if there going to be any in 06 - but there will not be any exit polls for the Congressional races so we can only compare public polls to election "outcome".

The analysis of the 04 exit polls showed that there was no mass fix to all machines of a given type, or even all machines in a given area. The data was too limited to tell if a large number of machines in a given area were "fixed". As the quote you lifted from the URL - "we don't find their evidence convincing" - says, the exit polls data points were too few in number to "prove" theft. But they - the exit polls -most certainly strongly suggested theft. And then as was documented in the Rolling Stone article, in Ohio theft was proven -over and over again - albeit not with regard to fixed electronic voting machine results. But then Princeton showed that electronic machine vote theft can be done without leaving any evidence behind for anyone to find.

So we are back to "not proven" - and exit polls when we have them. In 06 if the GOP "wins" with public polls saying it was unexpected, you will indeed get folks like myself saying "election theft".

Will the Democratic Party set up any checking/reporting facility/procedure to give confidence to the election results, perhaps to even stop GOP cheating/theft of elections?
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midnight Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed Oct-18-06 08:27 AM
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1. If your names are off the voting sheets. Can't you show a
utility bill, a drivers license. I know some people don't drive. But I would ask about voting as a first time voter status. Find out what the ID required is.
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LA lady Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed Oct-18-06 08:38 AM
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2. Try this site
http://electionline.org/Default.aspx?tabid=364

I can't guarantee it but it is accurate for MY state.
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