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status quo buster Donating Member (73 posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu Feb-14-08 03:29 PM
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Obama Hope Beating Clinton Help
Obama Hope Beating Clinton Help

Joel S. Hirschhorn

Hope mongering has been working much better than experience mongering. Now, the rest of the story….

As befits American culture, politics is all about slick selling to the masses. Hillary Clinton is selling Day-1 help to victims and sufferers. Barack Obama is selling effervescent hope to yes-we-can dreamers. This media hyped horse race is like a fight between diet Coke and diet Pepsi, artificially sweetened candidates devoid of real nourishment.

The least educated, least sophisticated and least wealthy along with Hispanics are sipping Clinton’s fizzled-out drink. The most educated, most privileged, and most financially successful along with African-Americans are gulping down Obama’s charismatic pick-me-up.

As to who is buying what, consider these data: Clinton won the non-college-educated voters by 22 points in California, 32 points in Massachusetts, 54 points in Arkansas, and 11 points in New Jersey. In a Pew Research national survey, Obama led among people with college degrees by 22 points. In Connecticut, Obama beat Clinton among college graduates by 17 points and in New Jersey by 11 points. And note this: 39 percent of Virginia and 41 percent of Maryland Democratic primary voters reported incomes of $100,000 or more – clearly well educated people that would favor Obama.

A simplistic conclusion is that the dumber you are the more likely you prefer the first woman president because you believe this experience-selling status quo, corporate candidate. And the smarter you are the more likely you prefer the first black president because you embrace the change-promises and platitudes from the more authentic, inspirational candidate with the short resume. Clinton supporters appreciate the 10-point-plan-for-every-problem political pragmatist. Obamatons swoon over the big-picture, unity-promising political messiah.

Working-class Clinton supporters are like weary shoppers seeking decent food at low prices at Safeway and good coffee at Dunkin’ Donuts. Obama yes-we-can-happy-facers gladly pay exorbitant prices for the Whole Foods experience and Starbucks shtick.

Here are some realities that neither group wants to face:

Both candidates are establishment insiders.

Both are corporate-state politicians. Note that Robert Wolf, the CEO of UBS Americas, a major banking company, has raised more than $1 million for the Obama campaign. Large sources of Obama money are law firms, investment houses, and real estate companies, and 80 percent of his donors are affiliated with business, compared to 85 percent for Clinton.

Neither are true progressives or populists, like Kucinich and Edwards.

Both Clinton the fighter and Obama the talker will sell out once they confront presidential realities. Why? Because plutocracies know how to retain power AFTER elections. After two years it will be clear that the new president will have failed to extract the US from Iraq, will have failed to deliver universal health care, will have failed to address illegal immigration, will have done nothing to get a new and serious 9/11 investigation, will have done nothing to stop middle-class-killing globalization, and will have utterly disappointed the vast majority of Americans. The president’s most pressing priorities will be lowering expectations and getting reelected, despite raising taxes. The only people truly surprised at all this will be those lacking what the Greeks thought is a virtue: cynicism.

Finally, for those seeking serious political system reforms, it is troubling that neither Clinton nor, especially, Obama have the courage to advocate needed constitutional amendments, such as replacing the Electoral College with the popular vote for president, getting all private money out of politics, making universal health care a right, and preventing presidential signing statements that undermine laws.

Knowing that Congress is unlikely to propose such amendments, these candidates could advocate using, for the first time, what the Founders gave us in Article V: a convention of state delegates that could propose amendments, as described at www.foavc.org. If Abraham Lincoln and Dwight D. Eisenhower could support using the convention option, certainly Day-1-Clinton and new-direction-Obama should.

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Benhurst Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu Feb-14-08 03:37 PM
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1. Oh, well. It's the same old story.
Heads you're screwed.

Tails you're screwed.

In the meantime, relax and enjoy the show.

:popcorn:

The main feature will be announced when the bottom falls out of the economy.
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No Blood for Hubris Donating Member (171 posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Mon Feb-18-08 12:40 AM
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4. What a crock.
Yes, please do encourage people to become so depressed they don't bother to vote.

That will help McCain, won't it?
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nolabels Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sun Feb-17-08 04:48 PM
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2. Do you really think they are so much the same?
Barack kind of reminds me Jimmy C. with a slightly larger vision. The classic outsider with a caveat that he has lived long enough inside to know how much it sucks. The analogy would be to think * had to be just like Poppy. An unlikelihood that didn't or probably wouldn't pan out when reality stares us in the face. The real thing you might want to ask yourself is who would you trust more :shrug:
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No Blood for Hubris Donating Member (171 posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Mon Feb-18-08 12:38 AM
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3. Oh get OVER it. Hillary = sharp Wonkette progressive.
All your blather serves only one party -- the Republicans.

I thank Ralph Nader every day for his contemptuous and tepid support -- oh wait, not even that -- of Gore against Bush. That allowed Bush to take power. So Ralphie has lots and lots of blood on his hands -- bet that must feel sticky, eh?

Barack's health care plan is a timid centrist plan -- covering kids only. NOT progressive. DUH.

What's wrong with you that that isn't disturbingly obvious?

Hillary's plan = universal coverage. Progressive. DUH.

Selective blindness?

Crazed faux-liberal Manichaean Naderism? What makes you so oblivious to what's so obvious?

Barack is way to the right of Hillary. End of story.
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GoreVidalIsGod Donating Member (58 posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu Feb-28-08 06:09 PM
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7. Hillary voted for IWR.
End of the story.
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bronxchuloboy Donating Member (2 posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue Feb-19-08 12:44 AM
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5. Let's not fool ourselves. It was race talk that turned things around
The fairy tale (that was somehow racist) and MLK comments started the debacle.
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