PRAISE CLINTON GREATEST RECORD BY FAR

[clarence swinney]

WHY IS NOT THIS PROMOTED?

                       CLINTON-GORE ACCOMPLISHMENTS
                                ALL AMERICAN TEAM
SHOW ME A BETTER RECORD
GDP--rose from 6,300 to 11,600
NATIONAL INCOME- 5,000 to 8,000 Billion--
JOBS CREATED—237,000 per month to replace Jimmy Carter record
of 218,000.
AVERAGE WEEKLY EARNINGS--$360 to $478
AVERAGE WEEKLY HOURS WORKED--never hit 35.0--hit that mark 4
times in 80's
UNEMPLOYMENT--from 7.2% down down down to as low as 3.9%
MINIMUM WAGE--$4.25 to $5.15
MINORITIES--did exceedingly well
HOME OWNERSHIP--hit all time high (no big deal most can say
this-except Reagan)
DEFICIT--290 Billion to whoopee a SURPLUS
DEBT----+43------300% increase over prior 12 years by
Conservatives.
FEDERAL SPENDING--+28%-----+80% under Reagan- who is da true
conservative?
DOW JONES AVERAGE—3,500 to 11,720 top in 2000.  All it's
history to get to 3500 and Clinton zooms it 
NASDAQ--700 to 5,000 top in 2000.---All of it's history to get
to 700 and Clinton zooms it
VALUES INDEXES-- almost all bad went down--good went up in
zoom zoom zoom
FOREIGN AFFAIRS--Peace on Earth good will toward each
other---Mark of a true Christian--what has Bush done to Peace
on Earth?
POPULARITY---highest poll ratings in history during peacetime
in  AFRICA, ASIA AND EUROPE . Even 98.5% in Moscow--left
office with Highest Gallup rating since it was started in
1920's.
STAND UP FOR JUSTICE--evil conservatives spent $110,000,000 on
hearings and investigations and caught one very evil man who
took a few plane rides to events.
BOW YOUR HEADS—“Thank you God for sending us a man of Bill
Clinton's character, intelligence, knowledge of governance,
ability to face up to crises without whimpering and a great
leader of the world. Amen”.
THANK YOU GOD FOR THE GOOD TIMES THE CLINTON YEARS.

 

[Baby Snooks]

1. Thanks indeed...

Many of these "successes" were the result of the policies of his finanical czar Alan Greenspan who of course recently admitted maybe he made a little boo-boo. The current mess was created by Bill Clinton's pen. All George W Bush did was merely allow everyone to rip everyone else off. But it was Bill Clinton's pen that made it all legal.

[clarence swinney]

6. Baby wrong

Fed created conditions for the MESS.


5 points--

1. 6.5% Interest Rate in 2000
1% in 2001
a bank would be nuts not to get as much as possible at 1% to loan out at 6% +.

2.Federal increased M-3 Total Money Supply.
Banks had plenty to get.

M-3
1960=500b
1970=750b
1980=2000
+100%
1990=4000
+50%
2000=6000
+75%
2008=10,000

3. Developers went wild building Homes Too Large-Too Expensive for Middle Class Incomes

Example--Calif builder being sued.Built $700,000 homes. Nearby build same blueprint for $400,000. big profit.

In 2000 it took 3.2 years of average annual income to buy an average priced new home.

In 2006 it took 5.4 years.

A 68% Increase.

There was no 68% increase in Labor and Materials.

4.Realtors had many to sell so went overboard misdirecting buyers.

FEDERAL RESERVE GAVE THE PLATFORM FROM WHICH TO JUMP OVERBOARD==GREED GREED

5.MORTGAGE SECURITIZATIONS WERE A MESS. MANY DID NOT HAVE CLOSE THE VALUE PRESENTED TO BUYER.

GREED GONE HOG WILD.

[pnwmom]

20. Most of the current mess was caused by Rethug deregulation.

I can't believe that you're giving Bush a pass on this.

[Autonomy]

2. You're not going to get a lot of fan mail

by praising Clintons around here. But I think he was and is fabulous. Thanks for the post. I agree that he had a lot to do with the economic upturn and relative world stability of the time. I am glad to see Obama using some of those Clintonites for his admin.

[Lindsey]

3. Bill Clinton did a lot for our county. Of course he made mistakes

but I just wonder why his mistakes always seems to be worse than everyone elses (Democrats and Republicans alike). I'm a big Obama supporter and have been for a very long time. I completely disagreed with the way Hillary ran her campaign. My sister, who is the biggest Obama supporter ever (she lives in Chicago, so there you go), observed that the Clinton's have had to be in "fight" mode for so long they pretty much didn't know how else to do it. I guess I'm just sick of us eating our own.....I'm ready for a little, "can't we all just f'in get along time." Gee whiz...........

[Grinchie]

18. He set the stage for Bush and his takeover of the DOJ

He continued the failed policies of the Drug Wars, promoted rules benefiting outsourced labor, and manipulated the Consumer Price Index to hide bad inflation numbers, and gave GMO foods without labeling the green light into our food supply. He installed Corporate friendly schills into the EPA, USDA and APHIS.

There was lots of free money floating about when Clinton was in office.

Secondly, he lied to all of us with a straight face, and very aggressively, although I think the crime was minimal, it's the thought that this guy can lie so easily gives me the creeps. Put in retrospect, and after researching the Clinton's while vetting Hilary, I can safely say that I think the Clintons are just another brand of corruption, and are not so far removed from the criminal in the current republican administration.

His story in Arkansas is not the sweet smelling rise to the top as everybody wants to portray it.

[clarence swinney]

4. Clintonomics vs Reaganomics

Comparing Democrat’s hero-CLINTON—versus Republican’s hero--REAGAN
-----------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------

1.JOBS—grew by 43% more under Clinton.
2.GDP---grew by 57% more under Clinton.
3.DOW—grew by 700% more under Clinton..
4.NASDAQ-grew by 18 times as much under Clinton.
5.SPENDING--grew by 28% under Clinton---80% under Reagan.
6.DEBT—grew by 43% under Clinton—187% under Reagan.
7. DEFICITS—Clinton got a large surplus--grew by 112% under Reagan.
8.NATIONAL INCOME—grew by100% more under Clinton.
9.PERSONAL INCOME—Grew by 110% more under Clinton.
SOURCES—Bureau of Labor Statistics (www.BLS.Gov)--Economic Policy Institute (EPI.org)—Global & World Almanacs from 1980 to 2003 (annual issues)
www.the-hamster.com (chart taken from NY Times)
National Archives History on Presidents. www.nara.gov
LA Times 10-11-00 on Market--www.Find articles.com

A vote for a Republican is a vote for Less Success.
A vote to reduce the Standard of Living for all Americans.

[clarence swinney]

5. $110,000,000 bought much trash

GAO listed that amount as what
Congress spent on Hearings and Investigations of the Clinton Administration.

I challenge anyone to list one Lie(intent to deceive) Clinton told us on policy.

smears were junk.

what did that buy?

ONE----ONE---person was----Convicted---of a---Felony---committed while ---Working For---President Clinton. Name more if you can.

Try Reagan 137 Charged with crimes.

Clinton was immoral but ethical.

[thesquanderer]

9. Clarify?

re:

ONE----ONE---person was----Convicted---of a---Felony---committed while ---Working For---President Clinton. Name more if you can.

Try Reagan 137 Charged with crimes.

One conviction vs 137 charged isn't a good comparison. Just to make this more sensible, does anyone know how many people were *convicted* of anything while working for Reagan?

(Unfortunately, we can't really count those who were pardoned before they had the chance to be convicted, like Caspar Weinberger.)

[clarence swinney]

22. REAGAN CONVICTED

INVESTIGATIONS OF IMPORTANT OFFICIALS

Attorney General—Cabinet--two OIC investigations-no charge
Asst. Attorney General—No Charge
Secretary of Defense—Cabinet—Pardoned
Asst. Sec. Of Defense—Guilty--to Prison
Secretary of Labor—Cabinet—Not Guilty
Secretary of Interior—Cabinet—Guilty—fined
National Security Agency--Director----Cabinet—Guilty
National Security Agency--Director----Cabinet—Guilty—Pardoned
National Security Agency—Director---Cabinet---Resigned
Asst. Secretary of Navy—--Guilty—Fined
Dep. Secretary of Air Force-Guilty—Fined
Director of CIA—Cabinet—Died during investigation
Asst. Director of CIA—Guilty—Fined
Director of HUD—Cabinet--Pled Fifth
Asst. Director of HUD—Guilty
Director of Superfund—Guilty—to Prison
Director of FAA—Guilty-Fined
Director of NASA-Guilty—Fined
Special Asst to President—Guilty
Communications Director for President—Guilty
EPA Administrator—Resigned
Asst. Secretary of State—Guilty

9 Cabinet Members—

REAGANGATES (32)

Illwind-gate (biggie)
Superfund-gate
Hud
Wed-Tech
Interior
Labor
Oval Office
Lt Colonel
Iran-Contra
Basement
Faa
Nasa
Pentagon
Korea
S & L (folks! I think we hit the jackpot—come and get it the vaults are unguarded)
Epa
Postal
Agriculture
Hhs
Home loan
Veterans
Fema
Legal Services
Civil Rights
Transportation
Product Safety
Economic Development
Synthetic Fuels
Social Security
Land Management
Osha
Cia

Sources—
Haynes Johnson book “Sleepwalking”
“When The Pentagon Was For Sale”—Andy Pasztor—(awesome list of criminals). Want Earmarks. Loaded
2 books titled “Scandals”
“The Clothes Lost The Emperor”-Paul Slansky (day by day chronology of 1980’s)
“Stealing From America”—
“Landslide”-Jane Mayer & Doyle McManus

Nathan Miller book states 233 were investigated
Haynes Johnson states 138 were --charged--indicted--found guilty -- investigated

[clarence swinney]

23. REAGAN CONVICTIONS

20 IN ONE DEPT OF HUD RESIGNED RATHER THAN FACE INDICTMENT FOR TAKING KICKBACKS

INVESTIGATIONS OF IMPORTANT OFFICIALS

Attorney General—Cabinet--two OIC investigations-no charge
Asst. Attorney General—No Charge
Secretary of Defense—Cabinet—Pardoned
Asst. Sec. Of Defense—Guilty--to Prison
Secretary of Labor—Cabinet—Not Guilty
Secretary of Interior—Cabinet—Guilty—fined
National Security Agency--Director----Cabinet—Guilty
National Security Agency--Director----Cabinet—Guilty—Pardoned
National Security Agency—Director---Cabinet---Resigned
Asst. Secretary of Navy—--Guilty—Fined
Dep. Secretary of Air Force-Guilty—Fined
Director of CIA—Cabinet—Died during investigation
Asst. Director of CIA—Guilty—Fined
Director of HUD—Cabinet--Pled Fifth
Asst. Director of HUD—Guilty
Director of Superfund—Guilty—to Prison
Director of FAA—Guilty-Fined
Director of NASA-Guilty—Fined
Special Asst to President—Guilty
Communications Director for President—Guilty
EPA Administrator—Resigned
Asst. Secretary of State—Guilty

9 Cabinet Members—

REAGANGATES (32)

Illwind-gate (biggie)
Superfund-gate
Hud
Wed-Tech
Interior
Labor
Oval Office
Lt Colonel
Iran-Contra
Basement
Faa
Nasa
Pentagon
Korea
S & L (folks! I think we hit the jackpot—come and get it the vaults are unguarded)
Epa
Postal
Agriculture
Hhs
Home loan
Veterans
Fema
Legal Services
Civil Rights
Transportation
Product Safety
Economic Development
Synthetic Fuels
Social Security
Land Management
Osha
Cia

Sources—
Haynes Johnson book “Sleepwalking”
“When The Pentagon Was For Sale”—Andy Pasztor—(awesome list of criminals). Want Earmarks. Loaded
2 books titled “Scandals”
“The Clothes Lost The Emperor”-Paul Slansky (day by day chronology of 1980’s)
“Stealing From America”—
“Landslide”-Jane Mayer & Doyle McManus

Nathan Miller book states 233 were investigated
Haynes Johnson states 138 were --charged--indicted--found guilty -- investigated

[blm]

24. Most thanks to John Kerry uncovering IranContra and BCCI - Clinton sided WITH Reagan/Bush on

those matters and protected their secrecy and privilege throughout the 90s, which enabled both Reagan and Bush1's legacies to be rehabbed in the public arena.

Did you manage to FORGET about that, Clarence?

Why cite Reagan and Bush's IranContra operations and praise Clinton who SIDED WITH THEM ON IranContra and BCCI operations?

[Lucky 13]

7. "MINORITIES--did exceedingly well"

:rofl:

In what respect, Charlie?

That statement is so broad, vague, and unsubstantiated, I don't know how to take it. LOL
It's odd you threw it in there... everything else has some evidence behind it.

The unabashed worshiping at the end is a hysterical.

[clarence swinney]

8. BROAD TRUE

JOBS
INCOME
HOUSING
ABORTION
CHILD MARRIAGES



GOOGLE--CHECK-- 2000 ECONOMIC REPORT OF PRESDENT MANY DETAILS

[skyounkin]

10. Like Clinton or not

there was a fucking level of competency when he was in office. You may or may not have liked some of the shit he did, but damn- he knew what the hell he was doing. You didn't go to bed worried that in the morning you were going to lose you fucking house, or your job, or that we might be going to war with Iran.

Jesus, how far has this country has fallen since 2000?

[Captain Hilts]

25. He knew how to manage government. He really did. Imagine what he could have done...

with a less conservative congress and without the Monica shit.

And both he and Hillary lost a parent in the first term.

[dpbrown]

11. Boy, you got that right

Clinton was the greatest President of my lifetime for sure.

[angryfirelord]

12. Beware

A lot of Clinton's economic success came at a price: the dot-com bubble. A bubble is not a healthy thing for an economy since it pops, which leads to a recession. The Glass-Steagall Act was also removed under the Clinton administration, which allowed for all of these risky loans that helped fuel the housing crisis. Then of course the Federal Reserve continued to screw things up as usual with Greenspan.

Was Bill Clinton better than Bush? Absolutely. Was he the greatest President ever? Not even close.

[clarence swinney]

13. HENRY HYDE ON CLINTON

"HAD HE NOT MESSED WITH MONICA HE WOULD HAVE GONE INTO THE HISTORY BOOKS AS ONE OF THE ALL TIME GREAT PRESIDENTS"

READ HIS NUMBERS.

SHOW BETTER ONES.

HE SURVIVED $110,000,000(GAO NUMBER) SPENT BY CONGRESS ON HEARINGS AND INVESTIGATIONS TRYING TO RUIN HIM.

HE KNOWS MORE ABOUT GOVERNANCE THAN ANY PRESIDENT. A LIFETIME STUDY.

HE WAS ADMIRED IN ASIA-AFRICA AND EUROPE.

HIGHEST POLLS OF ANY PEACETIME PRESIDENT ON THOSE CONTINENTS

NIC PIC WILL NOT WORK

[angryfirelord]

14. Um, caps?

I'm certainly not saying he was bad. I would definitely put him in the "good" category. However to rate him as #1 based on poll numbers is silly, especially since the dot-com bubble popped after he left office. Also, I have some issues on Clinton's foreign policy.

http://www.thirdworldtraveler.com/Yugoslavia/BillClintonsWar_Yugo.html
http://www.cnn.com/US/9812/16/clinton.iraq.speech/

[gilbertb11]

21. My only complaint with Clinton is...Monica???

Out of all the girls in all the world. Monica???? I actually didn't see anything wrong with this scandal. I believe it really humanized him and portrayed a person with real human emotion. Horny; but emotion none the less.

[dcsmart]

15. well...yeah...but ...MONICA

I am not sure why people keep forgetting that Bill disgraced the Office and embarrassed the country with his lack of self-control. Also, read this article, it is an interview with Mark Engler, the author of "How to Rule the World". Read the book also.

http://lacatholicworker.org/category/agitator-archives
see December issue: The Bailout: Socialism For Wall Street. it is a PDF file, so you have to click on the link.

A quote from Engler: "as i discuss in my book, the deregulation policies or market fundamentalism--all the things that led to this crisis--are not just a republican program. Unfortunately, these very same policies were pursued by Clinton in the 90's. Clinton did more to enhance corporate globalization than anyone else, and most of Barack Obama's advisers come from that same camp. This is very, very frightening to me." Quote from interview with Mark Engler in the December issue of Catholic Agitator.

Many of Clinton's polices continued deregulation of corporations which is partly to blame for current problems. The article is interesting, especially the part about Treasury Secretary Paulson, who came from Goldman Sachs, making $400 million when he had to sell his stock to become T-Sec. Anyway, he is not a saint. The Monica thing was an embarrassment and soiled (pun intended) his reputation and our countries.

Editor
PROGRESSIVE DEMOCRACY
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[clarence swinney]

17. 1%-- 4000B-- 68%--Bundle

Four keys.

Why did not this happen under Clinton ????

Search for True Causes

Fed 1% Interest Rate-Clinton had 6.5%

Fed increased M-3 Total Money Supply by 4000B in six or twice as much as preceding ten years.

Developers built homes where average home increased in price by 68% in six years.

Regular Banks financed mortgages to get as much of 1% money as possible.

They bundled and sold to Gambling Houses on Wall Street.

It was a "quick" small profit.
Cash flow fell to deposits.
No monthly payments coming in.

Developers went wild building homes too large and too expensive for the middle class income.

Price of average size home increased by 68% from 2001 to 2007.

Labor-materials did not increase by 68%.

Realtors had plenty to sell. So sell sell sell even if required lying by buyer and seller

How else could a man with $14,000 annual income get a $700,000 home in California.

This is not complex.

Many writers write hundred of pages on it.

Here is one page in spades. No Blarney Baloney

clarence swinney
political research historian
lifeaholics of america
[e-mail]
author-Lifeaholic
burlington nc


please spread it

[Voltaire99]

16. "Mark of a true Christian": er, half a million dead Iraqi kids.

Now I suppose, like Albright, you think the cost was worth it.

Merry Christmas to you, too.

[mathisen]

19. Yes and no

Sure, Clinton did good on economic policies but he also got a little lucky with timing financial cycles. Good record though. However, what's the deal with connecting his presumed christianity to the tremendous growth during said period?

[Ramocles]

26. He was popular in the world too

...as was Gore. Both were respected for their intellect.