Perhaps I'm old fashioned, but I find the Fantastic Four cartoon on NickToons to be unwatchably ugly

[Orrex]

The animation is horrible--worse than Speed Racer cartoons from 40 years ago. The visual style itself leaves me cold, but I realize that's mostly a matter of taste; the trend toward increasing manga influence in American comics doesn't always yield good results IMO, and this show is a case in point.

Additionally, the color is terrible. Everything seems washed out and over-lit.

Who the hell greenlighted this big, steaming pile? I'd have to rate it somewhere below those 80s FF cartoons with HERBIE, for pity's sake!

[daleanime]

1. O.K. now you've made me glad...

that I cut NickToons awhile back. (HERBIE? :scared:)

[Broken_Hero]

2. I have no opinion about the cartoon you mention

but I have to add, that I have hated, detested all the F4 comics I have read/bought(about 8 in total).

Every time I bought a F4 comic I'm like a naive little idiot, thinking "well this time, it will be good" and I'm let down by drivel that is in the comic. Granted, the times in which I gave the F4 an honest shot was in the early/mid 90's, but then...they sucked big time.

[Orrex]

3. The best run IMO was with John Byrne at the helm.

Without Wiki I can't remember when he was on it, exactly, but IIRC he started in the early 80s and maybe went until the very early 90s.

Every other handling of the team has been unreadable, as far as I'm concerned. They invariably write Reed as a doofus who uses big words and Ben as a loveable doofus who has two emotional states: overtly resentful of his condition and subtly resentful of his condition.

Byrne managed to portray Richards as an intelligent character and Ben as a man who's basically come to terms with his existence but recalls his former life with wistful nostalgia. Byrne also instilled a sense of humanity in the characters that has otherwise been sorely lacking.


I don't mean to seem like a Byrne-worshipper, either, because I think he's put out some utterly dreadful stuff, too. But his run on FF was top notch.