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johnnie Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed Aug-16-06 04:47 PM
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Ok, I'm sure ya have all heard about the JonBenet case
http://msnbc.msn.com/id/14379566/


This should be pretty interesting. I find it odd that this happens 10 years later and right after Patsy's death. I wonder if they found something in her personal belongings or something.
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XanaDUer Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed Aug-16-06 05:19 PM
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1. Yup!
Edited on Wed Aug-16-06 05:24 PM by XanaDUer
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flamingyouth Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed Aug-16-06 06:13 PM
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2. Yeah, this is going to be really interesting
I'm just glad they've finally made an arrest. I hope that this person is the guilty party and that he is finally brought to justice.
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Little Star Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed Aug-16-06 06:28 PM
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3. Hi, my first time visiting your group.
I have lurked here on occasion though. I stopped by to see what you all were saying about this arrest. Personally, I never thought that the Ramseys were guilty. I thought that the police department had tunnel vision. Now, if this guy is guilty, I will really be ready to read a book that tells the real story. I am a long and avid reader of true crime. I love the detective work and the forensics. I'm also a fan of Court TV and some A&E TV. Oh yeah, you guys rock! :thumbsup:
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johnnie Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed Aug-16-06 06:51 PM
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4. Welcome
Glad you posted in here. I wish it could be a little more active, but for a small group we do pretty well.

I am waiting to hear the real story also, but things still seem a bit strange to me. This man was from Georgia and so were the Ramsey family. I wonder if there is a connection?
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frogmarch Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed Aug-16-06 06:57 PM
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5. I call BS
I don't believe this. If the so-called "suspect" confessed, he must have done so because he was told he'd get a lighter sentence than he would by standing trial, because he'd surely be found guilty at trial, whether or not he killed JonBenet. I've heard this happens often with so-called "confessions."

I still think Burke, JonBenet's older brother, did it. Every professional document examiner on the planet, except those paid by the Ramsey team, believes Patsy wrote the phony ransom note. After seeing comparisons between the note and her known handwriting, I am totally convinced too. I think John and Patsy did everything they could to protect Burke. I understand parents doing that, but not their pointing the finger at innocent people.

Anyway, something seriously smells with this arrest. Lin Wood, the Rs' lawyer, has tried railroading people before in the case, and it looks as if he succeeded this time. The "suspect" may be a registered sex offender, but that doesn't mean he killed JonBenet. NO WAY, I say, and I'm not just being stubborn because I don't want to be wrong. I've studied the case from the start (I was a member of Websleuths for years till I got suspended for fighting with Republicanz on the political forum there) and I would stake my life on there having been no intruder that night, and that one of the Ramseys (as I said, Burke, in my opinion) did it.
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johnnie Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed Aug-16-06 07:48 PM
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7. I'm obviously not as knowledgeable on this case as you are
I was reading some of your posts from a previous thread on here and you seem to have a pretty good understanding of the case.

I have to say that I agree with you to a point though. I think something is not quite right and that's why I think it will be interesting. I still think the parent's had *some* information they weren't sharing.
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frogmarch Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed Aug-16-06 09:31 PM
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10. Yes,
the parents had some information they weren't sharing, to say the least. I've thought they did right from the beginning, even before the case snowballed.

Here's a 2003 article by Ryan Ross that gives a good overview of the case and where it stood until today.

http://crimemagazine.com/solvingjbr-main.htm

Ryan Ross's bio: Ryan Ross is a legal affairs writer based in Denver. He has been published in the Washington Post, the National Law Journal, the ABA Journal and Legal Times, among other publications, and has twice appeared as an expert on "Nightline."

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wakemeupwhenitsover Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed Aug-16-06 07:13 PM
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6. Just heard that there's a DNA match.
Poor Patsy. Talk about injustice.
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frogmarch Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed Aug-16-06 08:02 PM
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8. Do you have a link
to the information that the suspect's DNA matches the DNA found at the crime scene, apparently on the body? This I have to see from someone in authority to believe. I think I heard a guest on some TV show discussing the case today mention it, but I can't find anything about a DNA match online.

News reports are saying that the suspect knew things about the crime that weren't revealed to the public. What things, I wonder. If he merely "explained" things like, why he didn't rape JonBenet instead of just inserting part of Patsy's broken art brush into JonBenet's vagina like a child playing doctor might do, heck, who could disprove anything he might come up with in his "confession" to explain something like this?



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wakemeupwhenitsover Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed Aug-16-06 08:13 PM
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9. No link. It was just on the local news.
I'm curious too. Also, either the local or national news said that Patsy was aware that they were closing in on this guy before she died.

I'm sure we'll hear all about it over the next few days.
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frogmarch Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed Aug-16-06 09:55 PM
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11. Let's hope
the confusion is cleared up soon and we learn the real facts pertaining to the case against this person.

All talk on tv regarding DNA evidence against him may have stopped, at least for now. Anyway, I've heard nothing about it since I heard one little comment about it earlier.

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frogmarch Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed Aug-16-06 11:08 PM
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12. The suspect confessed?
Police: Suspect denies link to Ramsey

BANGKOK, Thailand - An American suspect arrested in connection with the death of 6-year-old beauty queen JonBenet Ramsey denied any connection to her murder when he was detained at his downtown Bangkok apartment Wednesday, police said.

(snip)

Federal officials in the United States, speaking on condition of anonymity, also identified the suspect as Karr, a 42-year-old American, and said he was being held in Bangkok on unrelated sex charges.

But Thai police said he had not committed any crime in Thailand.

(snip)

"When we informed him that he has been accused of committing a crime at home he denied all accusations. It is normal for a suspect to deny the charges," said a senior police officer, who spoke on condition of anonymity.

Link


His denying having killed JonBenet is a far cry from confessing to it, as was reported.
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johnnie Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed Aug-16-06 11:12 PM
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13. The plot thickens
I wonder what is up.
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