KOEB 6/24/05

[Berry Cool]

"Hey there, Olby-cats and Olby-kittens. It's me, Keith, back again. Hope you didn't listen to any OUTRAGEOUS LIES that I wouldn't be here tonight, posted by some L7. Strictly squaresville, man!

"Where else would I be on a Friday night but with my favorite people...the crazy beatniks of the KOEB? Dig it, Daddy-O!

"I'll be bringing plenty of news and plenty of snark, and maybe even a marijuana reference for Patsy--so Patsy, smoke 'em if you got 'em!

"So join me. It'll be way groovy, man! Coooooool."

[bunny planet]

1. Hi Berry. I'm here early tonight too.

And I only have to run up and down one flight of stairs to post tonight so I'm psyched.

Got my snark plugs all charged up.

Keef!
:loveya: :loveya: :loveya: :loveya: :loveya: :loveya: :loveya: :loveya:

[RevCheesehead]

15. Glad your snark plugs are tuned up.

How are your poor tired, thumpers doing? :hi:

[Berry Cool]

77. Hey, I'm back!

:hi: to Bun-Bun and all others!! Snark plugs well used tonight, eh?

[Patsy Stone]

2. Crazy, man...

Thanks for the shout out, Berry! :)

Katrina rocks! I try not to turn on Hardball, because it frightens me, but she's so good.

Hi! TGIF!!! TTTTB! :toast:

And, for KO: :loveya::loveya:

Tom Cruise was such a psycho on the Today Show.

[SharonRB]

4. All of a sudden he's such a maven about psychiatry?

:WTF:

[Patsy Stone]

9. He is the all-knowing Matinee Idol. n/t

[SharonRB]

11. More like the know-nothing false idol!

[Berry Cool]

82. I do not HAVE enough floaties for Keith tonight!

What a great thing he did by pointing out the idiocy of Tom Cruise for all to see...and pointing out that he too had benefited from psychiatry!

:loveya: :loveya: :loveya: :loveya: :loveya: :loveya: :loveya: :loveya: :loveya: :loveya:

(I had to try, anyway)

[RevCheesehead]

102. He's just trying to make up for being gone.

And I can't help but think that he was kind of chomping at the bit yesterday, wanting to take on Rove.

It's just that when Alison does the report, she makes it sound like an ice-cream break. Even her "interview" was pre-recorded. No disrespect intended, but Keith really needed to do that story yesterday. You know it, I know it, and HE knows it. :)

[Berry Cool]

122. OK, so who gets to spank him

for being out last night?

I get first dibs! Me me me me me!!!!

[RevCheesehead]

124. Are you sure that Mary Carry didn't beat us to it?

(sorry for using the word "beat." :evilgrin:)

[Berry Cool]

139. OK, that's it, now YOU'RE gettin' it.

:spank:

Just be aware, Rev: this hurts you more than it hurts me.

I hope so, anyway.

[RevCheesehead]

146. But, (and I know I'm repeating myself here),

I'M the one who's smiling. :evilgrin:

[Berry Cool]

152. Don't remind me!

Note to self: gotta ask DU to change out that smiley...

[gkhouston]

166. Call to Seito!!

Warrior Princess, next time you drop by, favor us with a smiley that will make Cheese look less pleased. Well, anyone, I suppose, but it seems like she gets most of the spankings around here. I wonder why... Jeez, I knew preacher's kids were hellions; didn't know it was true about the preachers, too. :-)

[RevCheesehead]

188. probably because in real life

I have to behave, and give the aura of holiness, purity, and chastity. O8)

[gkhouston]

192. I notice you merely have to give the "aura of chastity"

not the real thing. (sigh of relief)

[RevCheesehead]

193. In Wisconsin,

we have a "don't ask/don't tell" policy. O8)

[gkhouston]

194. hmmm

you must be "less vocal" than I am. :evilgrin:

[Berry Cool]

195. Sounds like that policy

is holier than your CHEESE!

[Rhiannon12866]

12. Chris Matthews has been off for at least the past two days.

I actually watched quite a bit of it.:shrug:

And I agree with you about Tom Cruise. He's just so full of shit! He's not just nuts, but dangerous!:crazy::grr:

[Patsy Stone]

16. He's been out all week.

But the Rovian monster was on this week with David Gregory. :scared:

[Rhiannon12866]

24. Yikes! I'm glad that I missed that one!

I watched David Gregory last night, but, fortunately, missed Rove.:scared:

[Berry Cool]

120. Well, Patsy, you didn't get a marijuana reference

but what about the opium reference as a substitute?

I'm a little worried now. Keith's moving on to harder drugs! :scared:

[Patsy Stone]

3. It's the Friday outfit...

We're right on track. :)

KO, thanks for comin' back... :loveya:

[RevCheesehead]

19. And you're looking marvelous, too, darling.

How are ya, Pats? :hi:

[Patsy Stone]

22. Good, good.

And he's mentioning "The Monsters are Due on Maple Street" episode again.

Oh, KO! :loveya:

[Berry Cool]

85. You guys aren't going to believe this

but yesterday afternoon at work, a little after 2, I found myself thinking of Rod Serling for no particular reason.

Then later on, I check out the blog.

I DO believe in the Twilight Zone. I do, I really do...

[Patsy Stone]

5. And he looks like shit, doesn't he?

I saw him on Letterman last night, because I wanted to see Ben Folds. He didn't look nearly as bad. Did he not sleep or shower?

Tom: :crazy::crazy:

[SharonRB]

8. Really!

He looks just awful. Looks like he's been taking drugs.

[RevCheesehead]

17. As long as they're not medically prescribed...

he should be "just fine." :eyes:

Hey, Sharon - how are ya? :hi:

[SharonRB]

51. Hey, Rev

I've missed most of the show while I figured out how to scan in my pics from NY. See my gigantic post downthread.

[Berry Cool]

125. I presume we are talking about David Gregory here

and not our KO...who swears he has never been prescribed drugs?

Can't you just hear Tom Cruise now? "Keith...Keith, Keith, Keith..."

[RevCheesehead]

6. Meowza, baby!

Meow, meow, Tom Cruise meow meow crazy, meow. :crazy:

Meow, everyone! :hi:

[bleever]

95. Are you channeling the kitten from Mr. Rogers here, Cheese?

:hi:

Happy Friday to you!

[RevCheesehead]

104. meow, meow, of course, meow, meow!

(and meow is a friggin' hard word to type repeatedly!)

How ye be, Buccy? Arrgh! ;)
(notice the new spelling, to avoid confusion)

[Berry Cool]

127. Speaking of meow...

...both of my meowers are in the DOGHOUSE tonight. (That's right, not the cathouse, we save that for Mary Carey.)

Let me tell you the tale briefly.

I was all settled in to watch Countdown on the couch like I always do. There's a little table on long legs that sits next to my couch and tonight I had a glass of soda on it (OK, pop, I have to remember I'm back in Ohio again).

Well, what happens but halfway through Keith's interview with the shrink about Tom Cruise, my cats both go SPASTIC and go on a tear through the living room...knocking the table over, sending the glass flying into the air and the pop splattering all over the carpet. And as if that wasn't bad enough, for some reason the remote on my couch that controls the channel magically flipped to another channel! I had to grab it and switch back to Countdown (fortunately all I missed was some of the shrink talking!)

Was I angry? Put it this way. The footage of that St. Louis fire didn't come close to what my head felt like.

Oh, they know I'm mad. They are hiding. Well they should.

Grrrrrr.

[bleever]

133. Bad cats. And, "pop"! Like the old days. :)

[Berry Cool]

143. Believe me--

--I wanted to *POP* those cats!

[bleever]

131. Ar, it be right proper how ye inquire after my well-being.

I be fine, except for a back-ache I wouldn't wish on KKKRove. But only because I believe that there's a price to pay for harming one's enemies.

How about if I wish him a plague on the operating system of all his computers? And that his sense of political savvy continue to be all ahoo, such that he kinna trim the sails of his vessel in order to escape reefs?

Meow, meow, meow, over-reaching, meow, meow, meow.

:)



ed: sp. We admit our mistakes here, without shame. :)

[RevCheesehead]

148. I hope she was worth it.

(the backache, silly. :P)

[Rhiannon12866]

7. Give 'em hell, Keith! Sounds like a great lineup!

And Tom Cruise is just so full of shit!:grr:

[Catchawave]

10. Hiya's .....

...my oldest son looks just like Tom Cruise, and he doesn't see a psychiatrist either....but he should...he's an air marshall :banghead:

Hello gorgeous Keefie TO-night :loveya: ...and my KOEB bubbies too....:loveya: :loveya: :loveya: :loveya: :loveya: :loveya: :loveya: :loveya: :toast:

[RevCheesehead]

13. Just what we need -

someone who chooses to dis mental health professionals. :grr:

As someone who suffers from depression, Tommy's comments certainly didn't help take the stigma away. It's what most of us call "prejudice."

[CBHagman]

80. What killed me was the post-partum comment.

I understand that Tom Cruise publicly criticized Brooke Shields for the treatment she received during post-partum depression. It kind of makes me want to push a baby-sized doll through one of Mapother's orifices AND start fiddling with his hormones AND keep him up at night for weeks or months at a time and see how he likes it. :mad:

[bunny planet]

87. Marie Osmond also suffered from post-partem depression.

Wonder if she was helped by psychiatry and drugs. If so, maybe we can get the Morman to go after the Scientologist, celebrity boxing kind of thing. I don't think Brook cares how much Tom cares. Do you?

[RevCheesehead]

107. Like MTV's "Celebrity Death Match?"

I like the way you think, Thumper! :evilgrin:

[Berry Cool]

129. Post-partum depression is real.

It can make women feel like killing their kids...or themselves.

But no, says Tom Cruise, it's all in your mind. Take some vitamins. Get some exercise.

Katie, take note. Think before you marry.

[bunny planet]

140. Remember the Andrea Yates story.

Vitamins Tom? And to think I used to want to lick that man's teeth.
Now we can just play 'spot the loony' whenever he makes a public appearance.

[Berry Cool]

144. I was wondering if someone would bring up Yates

The trouble is, what she did was so heinous and reprehensible that it is hard for people to get past it and realize that yes, she may have really had a psychotic disorder that caused her to do it.

Does not absolve. Not in the least. But it does, possibly, explain.

[bunny planet]

147. I know, it was hard to find her a sympathetic character in that tragedy.

Her husband didn't come off much better, she had experienced severe post-partum depression after an earlier pregnancy, and he just left her to 'homeschool' the kids even though she'd shown signs of coming unglued before. Just sad and scary any way you slice it. It really is post-partum psychosis in many cases and CANNOT,Tom Thumb, be treated with vitamins.

[gkhouston]

164. yes, for her, she'd slid from depression into psychosis

and what happened was utterly horrible. You think you guys got inundated with Andrea Yates, imagine what the coverage was like here in Houston. Yet she was clearly not a sociopath, so there must have been some serious mental illness going on. Sad, sad case no matter how you slice it. I really think our justice system needs a "guilty but insane" verdict -- that woman does not belong with the regular prison population.

As for Tom Cruise -- someone explain to me why I should give a rat's ass about his opinions in regards to psychiatry? He seems to be displaying boatloads of ignorance about the realities of mental illness -- i.e., there are people for whom medication and/or therapy have been beneficial and sometimes literally life-saving. I felt like he was reading off a cult tract.

[Berry Cool]

171. Once again, gk hits the nail on the head

I'm all for "guilty but insane." It acknowledges that the crime is not being forgiven simply because the person is insane, yet allows that person to be treated like a person with a serious illness rather than a mere criminal who did it because he/she felt like it or had something to gain by doing it/had complete disregard for the feelings of other human beings. It says "OK, this person did it. Now we're going to remove this person from society and give him/her treatment and even if the treatment is not successful, at least this person will not be free to do this thing anymore."

And the answer to the Tom Cruise question is: No one can explain why ANYONE should give a rat's ass what he thinks of psychiatry. He's just using one problem in the psychiatric world--the problem of overmedication and overprescription--to attack and condemn the field as a whole. Why? Because he's been indoctrinated into $cientology and they want you dependent on them and they realize that you'll never become dependent on them if you actually believe psychiatry can help you with your problems. They hate competition for people's emotional loyalty and people's money, and psychiatry represents both. So they write a crapload of books and tracts about how bogus psychiatry supposedly is, full of bias and lies, then they get their recruits to read them and be totally indoctrinated in the content of the books so they can go out and preach the gospel of anti-psychiatry and pro-$cientology.

But what do you want to bet people WILL care what he thinks? And as a result, some of them will go untreated when talk therapy, drugs or a combination of the two could have helped them a great deal. And as a result, some of them will commit suicide, others will do other terrible things, and others will just be damn bloody miserable in life when they need not be.

I just hope all this backfires on him. I hope all this Katie-crap and anti-psychiatry crap backfires and his movie flops and the world shows it just doesn't give a crap anymore about Tom Cruise or what he says. You're nothing but another Hollywood actor, Tom. Your job is to act in movies. Stick to it or suffer the consequences when you don't.

[gkhouston]

178. I'm hoping it backfires, too. And the way he kept harping

on "the history of psychiatry" made me wonder if he believes therapy=Freudian analysis, which is so untrue. Man, Freud's theories tell you so much more about Freud's issues than the women he was "helping"!

[Berry Cool]

196. That's for sure. Freud had his hangups, all right

even if he is the father of modern psychiatry.

Thank goodness it has moved beyond his theories.

Know what's scary? I recall being back in high school and being able to find books on the shelves of the library that espoused his views. And I don't mean complex tomes, either. I mean books aimed at younger people. Sure, they dated back to the early '60s, but whew, what they said about sex roles, the Oedipus/Electra complex...ggghhhh! And they were still on the shelves years later! All these books that said that it was natural for all little boys to want to marry Mommy and for all little girls to want to marry Daddy! And that the way to cure them of this was to teach girls to be little Suzy Homemakers and so on!

And yes, they did cover that magical moment when a little girl sees a little boy naked and discovers that she is "missing something"...and of course the only way for her to "get it" is to marry it! And in order for her to do that...well, bring on the miniature mops and brooms and start teaching her right now what is required!

AGGGGHHHHHHH!

[gkhouston]

200. strange, my daughter is well aware that she is

anatomically "different"... but she doesn't appear to feel that anything is "missing", just that it's "different". You'd almost think the "missing" was an idea projected downwards from the adults... :freak:

[RevCheesehead]

149. And you don't need a pregnancy

to be hormonally screwed-up. I know from experience. (1995-98 were NOT good years for me. Endometreosis, ruptured ovary, emergency surgery, put in medical menopause; 3 yrs later, 2 large fibroids removed in another surgery...) I've ridden the estrogen roller-coaster, and it ain't fun.

[Berry Cool]

153. I know we call ourselves the KOEB

but sometimes estrogen is not a funny thing to have. At least not too much of it. Or fluctuations of it.

[RevCheesehead]

155. It always helps to have a focal point.

Hence, the KO-B part. :loveya:

[Berry Cool]

172. Hmmm, you're reminding me of one of my favorite songs right now.

It's a Hall & Oates remake of a Teddy Pendergrass classic.

"Think I better let it go/'Cause it looks like another 'Love T.K.O.'..."

(I like to think of the "T" as standing for "To." I think you can guess what the "K.O." stands for in my mind.)

[gkhouston]

165. that it isn't.

the regular postpartum homornal shifts plus postpartum thyroiditis were hard enough. Thank God I didn't get depression on top of it.

on edit: but you like riding the Sparky-coaster, doncha? :evilgrin:

[CBHagman]

154. I'd say Marie could kick Tom's ass.

:popcorn:

But it's the sheer arrogance of the comments that gets to me. Besides, the media make such a big deal over celebrities these days that I am afraid they do affect public opinion. Somebody (maybe it was Abigail Trafford?) pointed out that at least Brooke Shields's book on her experience would help remove some stigma attached to seeking help, plus educate the public about the problem.

[Berry Cool]

173. I think Brooke and Marie both did people a service

and I'm not really big fans of theirs or anything.

It can't be easy and it's certainly not flattering as a celebrity to go up in front of people and say "I was so depressed after my kids were born that I felt like killing them." It's not something people will admit to with great ease. It goes against everything we're told new mothers SHOULD feel, not to mention bringing homicide into the equation.

But gosh darn it, if you as a celebrity will admit to it, and say you got help, maybe you can help a whole lot of other people out there who thought they were the only ones, and were deeply ashamed in addition to being depressed, because they would never admit their feelings to a soul for fear of being condemned.

[gkhouston]

179. I'm guessing it might help someone with that problem to hear

that anyone else had had it. The value of hearing that a celebrity has had it is that the information gets propagated far and wide. If they happen to like/admire that celebrity already, so much the better.

[RevCheesehead]

96. Now there's something I'd like to see.

If you find the doll, let me know. We can travel together. :)

[RevCheesehead]

14. Nice link to KKKarl Rove!

"those who dis the profession/field."

"at what point do they go so overboard, that someone suggests that they seek help; sort of an intervention..."

Go, Keith. :loveya:

[Patsy Stone]

18. He's snarkin' tonight!

And it's gonna be fun to hear his take on KKKarl. It's been only Alison for the past few days. :)

Hi, Rev! :hi:

[RevCheesehead]

23. Karl Rove on Maple Street....

should perhaps be Nightmare on Elm Street. :evilgrin:

I'm so glad he's back. I've missed proper snark.

[Sydnie]

21. What has this world come to?

When Tom Cruise can make Matt Lauer look like the sane one?

:hi: all! :loveya: Keith. Welcome Home!

[RevCheesehead]

27. Hah!

You got that one right, Sydnie! :hi:

[Rhiannon12866]

29. I second that! Yikes! n/t

[Berry Cool]

93. Matt Lauer looked GREAT on the show tonight!

Of course, what do you wanna bet the $cientologi$ts will be all over not only him on this one, now, but Keith...they will make Dr. Dobson's gang look like pikers!

Just watch. They will say MSNBC and Keith only ran that interview again in a desperate attempt to shore up the sagging ratings of the Today Show. Just watch.

[RevCheesehead]

109. Nah, Bow-Tie Boy is doing it, too.

It's NBC property, and Tommy did it all by himself.

Can you imagine Tucker's outrage if they attempted to go after HIM? I'll bring the popcorn. :popcorn:

[Berry Cool]

132. Oh, sure they'll go after him!

They'll attack him so fast his bow tie will be spinning like a propeller!

And yes, they will say that NBC is just desperately trying to flog its morning show any old way they can...even by rerunning parts of it on MSNBC. (Yeah, like it's gonna get huuuge ratings there.)

[Berry Cool]

89. And THIS, ladies and gentlemen, is why we love Keith

and why we just can't post enough floataculars for him some nights.

[Gogi]

130. I knew a woman who was schizophrenic many years ago.

She secretly stopped taking her meds and, one day, she killed her 5 year old son because the voices told her he was the antichrist. I've also had people tell me about their mentally ill relatives who committed suicide. Right now I could kick Tom Cruise from here to Mars! It's a good thing I wasn't interviewing him, I'd slap his stupid head off his shoulders. :grr: :rant:

There is absolutely nothing *easy* about treating (or living with) mental illness. Cruise can take the Gospel according to Scientology and shove it. :grr: :grr: :grr: :grr: :grr: :grr: :grr: :grr: :grr:

[RevCheesehead]

150. Yeah, they're all one step away from Jonestown.

Or one Comet-ride short of Heaven's Gate.

How are ya, Gogi? :hi:
getting ready for your trip yet? Stalker-maps drawn up? :evilgrin:

[Gogi]

158. Yep, looked up restaurants last nite and fabric stores today.

Still working on the stalker maps! :loveya:

Island Burgers and Shakes, Tea Den, Del Frisco's, Cafe Classico, Kosher Deluxe, Bagel 54 sound interesting. BagelFeller and Imperial Dragon might be worth a try. Hale and Hearty Soups (I think that's the name!) sounds interesting too.

[RevCheesehead]

161. That isn't the "Soup Nazi," is it?

One of the few Seinfeld episodes I've actually seen. Moral: Know your soup before you get in line!

[Berry Cool]

174. Hey Rev! ENOUGH WITH THE NAZI REFERENCES!

:rofl: :rofl: :rofl: :rofl: :rofl: :rofl: :rofl: :rofl: :rofl: :rofl: :rofl:

You don't suppose there's such a thing as "Karl Rove's Soup Kitchen" in NY??

[Gogi]

186. I don't think so, there's a whole bunch of places that sell soup in

Manhattan.

[WolverineDG]

206. hale & hearty soups!

a friend & i chowed down there on a trip to nyc a few years' back. it's great!! enjoy!

dg

[bunny planet]

20. Ok Cruise, pyschiatry is bad for people, did the little aliens on Planet

Scientology tell you about that before or after they planted the chip in your head.

I think he's a great actor, but a nut. Anybody who makes Matt Lauer look like a thoughtful individual is definitely behaving badly.

Next up Rove. Let me tell you, my hometown of NYC (and it will always be my hometown no matter where I live now) is hopping mad.

[RevCheesehead]

33. Hey, bunny -

The other night I was thumping against the Scientology apologists. All I asked is if someone could show me how it was a religion, then I would respect it. I was called intolerant, narrow-minded, and a whole host of things. And this was in the Lounge!

[bunny planet]

39. Oh Rev, you're the best.

I lost a friend to Scientology. He was in the cult for many years and when he tried to get out they hounded him day and night, saying he owed money, stalking him and his family. He committed suicide, and while that says a lot about his state of mind that may have made him susceptible to something like Scientology in the first place, it also made me always think of them as a dangerous, and sinister organization, a cult definitely, a religion no.

I know two other twenty somethings that are in NYC literally hiding from their family in California, who are Scientologists trying to bring them back into the 'church.'

[RevCheesehead]

41. all I ask is,

"if they're so great, why do they keep so many secrets?"
That's a pretty good sign that something sinister is going on.

[Berry Cool]

94. That's so sad, Bun-Bun.

They only exist to take people's money. Really.

[bunny planet]

105. Yeah, it happened about twenty years ago but still makes me

sad and mad too. He was such a sweet soul.

Remember the Scientology story about the woman who was trying to leave the 'Church' of Scientology and she ran naked into traffic in some city in Florida (where else), Tampa I think. The Scientologists grabbed her up, brought her back to this hotel, and kept her in isolation where she later died under mysterious circumstances. Charges were brought against them but I think they were not found guilty of anything.

WTF.

[Sydnie]

25. ROFL! Delay can't read! n/t

[RevCheesehead]

28. aw, c'mon -

he was just handed the meme right before he took the podium.

[Sydnie]

31. ROFL!!

Guess he needed to follow Keith's advice. A read through at the urinal before hitting the stage. After all, the flush sound could be confused with applause, right?

[Berry Cool]

98. Best snark of the night!

I knew he'd be bringin' it hot and fresh! :rofl:

[gkhouston]

167. Berry, did you really need to say

"bringing it hot and fresh" right after someone else mentioned reading the speech at a urinal? :rofl:

[Berry Cool]

175. TOO MUCH!!!!

OK, gk, that's it! :spank:

Of course, I do have to ask why am I spanking you when you just brought me my laugh of the day!!

[gkhouston]

180. good question

especially since Sparky is usually so eager to perform that service... ah, but I may have an another laugh to give you later in the day after I've read your other posts.

[Rhiannon12866]

32. I loved Keith's remark! LOL!

:D

[Patsy Stone]

26. My eyes!!! My eyes!!!

The Bugman Cometh! And thanks for that dig KO, "It's always good to read the speech over." :)

[RevCheesehead]

30. I'm liking what I hear from this woman.

Turn part of the 9/11 site into a research area for alternative energy. Very, very good idea. :thumbsup:

[Rhiannon12866]

35. She's good, but the widow that was on "Hardball" was better.

She was extremely outspoken about the lack of response to 9/11 by the administration. Keith would have gotten a lot more of what he was looking for from her.

[Sydnie]

160. Rhiannon, I just saw that interview and you are absolutely right

Man, she was so good. Didn't miss a beat and even brought up the 28 missing pages from the 911 Commission report.

I would like to see Keith do an indepth show, not a Countdown but an hour special, with the families now. Not in September, but now. They have so much to contribute to the dialogue.

I also have to mention just how much of a tool Kay Hutchinson-Bailey (or what ever that nutjobs name is) she was. "Rove was speaking to a conservative group about liberals". So? I mean, Whoopi was speaking to a liberal group about conservatives. I don't see them cutting her any slack because the audience was not offended. That's just one example of the double standard that they call free speech. It's ok when they do it, but damn the torpedos if the liberals think they can get away with calling us on our hypocracy.

Once the transcripts are out, we need to post about both of these interviews in the other forums. We need to make sure that each and every one of these chickenhawk fuckfaces have to eat their words.

Anyway, thanks for the heads up about that interview. Without your post, I would have missed it completely. :hi:

[Rhiannon12866]

163. Thanks, I agree. She was exactly what Keith was looking for.

And he could have gotten his points across much better with her outspoken and informed voice, speaking for him. She was just excellent, up to speed on everything and willing to speak out. I'm so glad that you caught her.

And, you're also right, that Keith would be excellent on this. He has a definite agenda, and a history with the WTC. He'd be perfect. Plus, he's willing to speak out and bring important truths to light. That's the reason that I watch him. He doesn't back off from the truth and is willing to tackle stories that the "liberal media" is too afraid to touch, like this one, the evils of FAUX News and Jeff Gannon.

I think it's Kay Bailey Hutchinson, LOL, but I know that she's a Bushie, so I left the room when she came on. I knew that I'd hate whatever she had to say. But I agree. They can get away with saying anything, while we liberals are painted as nut jobs. They can get away with any lie or obfuscation, while we're lambasted for telling the truth, as with Howard Dean. *sigh* I know.:-(

And, okay, I'm willing to post interviews, but I'm afraid that we're preaching to the choir on DU. The phrase that I post most is, "I agree with you." *sigh* I blame the media for being just too damn chickenhearted to bring the truth to the rest of America.:grr:

But I'm glad that you saw this. I was impressed with her, as well.:hi:

[gkhouston]

168. I'd love to see him do an in-depth show once in a very blue moon

and this would be the topic for the first one. He needn't commit to a series; he could just do this one and feel his way along, but damn, he'd be a natural for this and the weekends are a WASTELAND on MSNBC. For that matter, they could (gasp) air it as a special on NBC.

[Berry Cool]

176. gk, that's a stroke of genius, and it would be a MUCH better idea

than rerunning the stupid NBC "Runaway Bride" interview!

Jeez...MSNBC just doesn't know what it's missing by not letting US program the network.

Of course, they would probably be a bit upset with us when we changed their name to "OBE"..."Olbermann Broadcasting Empire"...and ran regular "The Best of Countdown" marathons every weekend...but hey...

[gkhouston]

181. no, I wouldn't do that to Keef

he needs to rest and go to baseball games and have a life outside of Secaucus. If he's going to do in-depth specials while still hosting "Countdown", they'll have to be rare or he'll get stretched too thin. I want him to stay happy.

[Berry Cool]

197. I would be happy with the rare in-depth specials

and then "Best of Countdown Marathon" weekends...this would be tapes of all the best Countdowns, running constantly so his weekends would be free for baseball games, etc.!

[bunny planet]

34. This lady is very calm and well-spoken.

I kind of wish KO had Kristen Breitweiser (spelling?) on though. She would have hammered Rove which is what he deserves.

I'm surprised the Bugman is even showing his face on national tv. People might just be reminded of his disgraceful statements and activities.

[Patsy Stone]

36. Awww... KO!

A Miami Dolphins reference. :loveya::loveya:

[bleever]

38. Is that what that was?

:hi:

[Patsy Stone]

43. After the Dolphins took it from Houston

Yes. :)


:hi:

[RevCheesehead]

40. He loves ya, baby!!

A bionic dolphin - in Lake Michigan? That would be cool. :)

[Patsy Stone]

47. What would it be named? n/t

[RevCheesehead]

55. Brett.

The Miami one would be named Marino. :)

[Patsy Stone]

57. LOL!

Excellent. :thumbsup:

[Patsy Stone]

37. And there you go...

the reference. :)

[Berry Cool]

99. The best part about the dolphin was...

...it made him SING.

It's always a good night when Keith sings. :loveya:

[RevCheesehead]

112. What song was it?

It didn't sound familiar. I was hoping for "Flipper" (or, was that it? :blush:)

[Berry Cool]

134. I'm not sure what song it was

but whatever it was, he was singin' it with glee!

The Flipper reference was later.

Of course, Flipper was not really a dolphin, but who cares. Keith still found a way to use him to accomplish his porpoise.

[Berry Cool]

142. And another technical glitch on the live show that makes taping worthwhile

What did he say tonight when they cut away from the "Top 3 Newsmakers List" and showed him instead? "Come back here"?

Of course, I didn't mind the accidental glimpse of Keith.

I'll have to watch the re-air now to see if they fix it.

[gkhouston]

169. it was something like "come back here"

and the song wasn't "Flipper" but a take-off on some other song that I'm not bringing to mind at the moment.

[RevCheesehead]

42. Blivet may think he's setting the agenda -

but if he doesn't pay attention, he's going to discover that there ain't nobody following in his parade.

What a maroon.

[Patsy Stone]

52. I heard the questions from the "News Conference" on the radio

and you can hear that asshole-ish smirk in his voice. He was trying to defend not confiriming the timetable for troop withdrawls. What an ass! I'm so embarrassed.

[bunny planet]

53. Can you believe he actually used the word QUAGMIRE

and then did his trademark little snicker. What a disgrace this man is. There was another quagmire called VIETNAM, you might have heard of it *blivet.

Notice how often KO calls him Mr. Bush, and doesn't refer to His Fraudulency by his royal title.

[RevCheesehead]

63. Can we get MoveOn to re-air those campaign ads?

Because a little reminder wouldn't hurt, ya know.

[Berry Cool]

103. How many people have already called it a quagmire

and he just laughs?

Sheesh.

Yes, Bun, I noticed that KO often calls him "Mr. Bush." And yet the other night on Leno when he was talking about Clinton he said "Like him or not, he's the President of the United States" and that when he asked him for his autograph, he said "Mr. President..."

Nuff said...

[RevCheesehead]

118. I think KO falls into the "like him" category.

Just a hunch. :)

[gkhouston]

170. or maybe he recognizes a teeny difference...

Clinton was legitimately elected.

[Berry Cool]

177. You know what's interesting?

Does anyone remember how the far righties used to behave during the Clinton presidency, and the propaganda they used to try to spread about people who allegedly didn't recognize him as "their" president? I'm thinking right now of an urban legend about people in some branch of the military who supposedly showed secret defiance of him when they had a face-to-face encounter with him because they did not accept him in his role as commander in chief of the armed forces because they did not respect him.

Man, I have to look this up on snopes, I know it's there:

http://www.snopes.com/military/salute.htm

It was supposedly the Marines. And the story is, as you can see from reading this, false.

Yet they spread these stories around anyway. And that was all right for them, but now that the blivet is President, everyone must show him proper deference and respect, right? Please.

All I can say is, thank goodness Keith isn't a Marine!

[Berry Cool]

100. It's typical of his stubbornness.

He's going to LEAD this damn parade even if no one else is left in it but HIM, dammit! Because THAT'S WHAT LEADERS DO!!!!!!

[Sydnie]

44. Hey Dick, YOU go live in the tropics!

Don't get me started, you know how I get! :rofl:

[Rhiannon12866]

48. I used to think I hated Wolfowitz the most

But with what Cheney's been up to, he's moved to the top of my list!:grr:

[Berry Cool]

106. Yeah, gk, I was gonna say...

"Yeah, you tell 'em, Dick! Nothing like living in the tropics! Think of all those bugs and all those exotic diseases you can catch down there! Yeah! It's the life of Riley!"

[bunny planet]

145. Yeah, and that footage Countdown always shows of Gitmo seen through

the barbed wire fence always makes me think of all my past tropical vacations. You know with emaciated people being led around naked, blindfolded people being put into rooms. So tropical.

[RevCheesehead]

151. If they make "Club Gitmo" sound so attractive,

everyone is going to want to vacation there.

I mean, we have a brand new facility there. Brand new torture rooms. Sound-proof, too.

[RevCheesehead]

45. *gasp* - do I hear the word "ethics" being used?

Medical ethics.

Hmmm... not to jump on the Nazi bandwagon, but wouldn't one be tempted to ask if they're following Dr. Mengele's textbook?

[Rhiannon12866]

50. Sounds like it to me!

These guys are such brazen liars!:grr:

[Sydnie]

54. I believe you did Rev.

But don't worry. It's not in THEIR dictionary, so no fear that they might use some anytime soon.

[Berry Cool]

108. If it's not Mengele's textbook

it's George Orwell's.

Remember Winston Smith and the rat?

No wonder Keith calls Faux News "The 1984 Channel."

[SharonRB]

46. I finally got my NY pics

Here are me and Bunny and the KO billboard near Macy's.





Oops -- still don't know how to use our scanner, it's the first time I've used it. Guess I should have figured out how to downsize the photos. Sorry, guys. Next time I'll know better.

I went back into Photobucket and reduced the sizes. They're better now.

[RevCheesehead]

49. Nice pics!

And you and the bunny - I'll bet you had a blast!!

(who do I pay to get a Keith billboard in Algoma?)

[SharonRB]

56. We had a great time -- just too short.

We need to find more occasions to meet each other. Too bad we're so scattered around the country.

[Patsy Stone]

73. I still like the idea of the KOEB Cruise. :)

Nice pictures! You guys look like you had fun. :)

[SharonRB]

91. We did.

A cruise sounds like fun, but a meetup somewhere central sounds more feasible.

[Berry Cool]

137. Any kind of cruise is fine

but a Tom Cruise.

[Gogi]

159. We could always go to NYC and take one of them thar dinner cruises!

(hint, hint) :beer:


KO, it occurs to me I haven't sent enough floaty hearts your way this month! :loveya: :loveya: :loveya: :loveya: :loveya: :loveya: :loveya: :loveya: :loveya: :loveya: :loveya: :loveya: :loveya: :loveya: :loveya: :loveya: :loveya: :loveya: :loveya: :loveya: :loveya: :loveya: :loveya: :loveya: :loveya: :loveya: :loveya: :loveya: :loveya: :loveya: :loveya: :loveya: :loveya: :loveya: :loveya: :loveya: :loveya: :loveya: :loveya: :loveya: :loveya: :loveya: :loveya: :loveya: :loveya: :loveya: :loveya: :loveya: :loveya: :loveya: :loveya: :loveya: :loveya: :loveya: :loveya: :loveya: :loveya: :loveya: :loveya: :loveya: :loveya: :loveya: :loveya: :loveya: :loveya: :loveya: :loveya: :loveya: :loveya: :loveya: :loveya: :loveya: :loveya: :loveya: :loveya: :loveya: :loveya: :loveya: :loveya: :loveya: :loveya: :loveya: :loveya: :loveya: :loveya: :loveya: :loveya: There, that oughta hold ya!

[RevCheesehead]

162. Why do I suspect an Olber-napping might occur?

Actually, that sounds like fun. We'll all crash at Bunny's place. :)

[Gogi]

185. We could tempt him out of his apartment with a rare baseball card

tied to a balloon, grab him and take off for the Seaport!

(The lengths I have to go to because I'm not Sophia Loren. If I were that goodlooking I could just use a loud whistle and he'd come running.)


KO:loveya:

[RevCheesehead]

189. Nah, a rare baseball card would be too expensive.

I'd suggest standing outside his apartment, and in a loud voice say "why what on earth are you doing here in NYC, Karl Rove?" :evilgrin:

[Gogi]

191. Oh No!

Too many New Yorkers want to crack Rove's jaw. They might turn on us. Besides, no price is too high for a meeting however brief with the divine KO!:loveya:

[Berry Cool]

198. Darn, and just when I was thinking

the perfect "Keith Trap" would be very simple...just a large wooden box propped on a forked stick attached to a string leading off into the bushes where the trapper lies in wait...and, underneath the box, a baseball card.

ANY baseball card, really. After all, it could be traded with someone for one he doesn't have. That's the real value.

[Gogi]

204. It would probably be very hard to find a card KO does'nt have.

His mother is a great baseball fan so you know she did'nt throw any of his cards out and has a collection of her own!

[gkhouston]

205. LOL, she probably used to confiscate his cards

to punish him... and if he had an exceptionally good card, maybe she'd even invent a few misdeeds, no? ;-)

[ewagner]

58. Nice pics....

lurking here is rewarding sometimes :evilgrin:

hi rev :hi:

hi everybody :hi: :loveya: :grouphug:

[RevCheesehead]

66. Our secret lurker appears.

Hi, Ed! :hi:
Nice to have you join us. :)

[Sydnie]

59. Sharon and Bunny you both look GREAT!

and Keith looks tasty too! :loveya:

[SharonRB]

65. Thanks, Sydnie!

[bunny planet]

78. Wow, I just saw this Sharon. That is a big picture of us.

What fun we had meeting each other and Dave of course. He had fun meeting everybody.

Thanks for posting it.

Now it's a really little picture.
Someone needs a photoshop elf.

[SharonRB]

97. Yes, he always has fun meeting everybody

You should have seen him at Funday last week.

[SharonRB]

114. Now I think I got it just right -- I'm playing with Photobucket

One of these days I'll get it okay.

[crispini]

88. Great pictures!

Ya'll are so fabulous looking! :)

[SharonRB]

116. Thanks, Crispi .

I think it's time for everyone to post pictures. I know this was done a long time ago, but I missed it and I think we have some new people.

[gkhouston]

182. I will DEFINITELY NOT post MY picture

Ladies, this is a clever trap! Someone with Long Fingers is using his Evil Powers of Mind Control over our sweet helpless Sharon, causing her to post this seemingly innocuous suggestion, but it is nothing more than a cunning plan to get all our pictures so he can play (drum roll, please): KOEB Puppet Theatre!!!!

Take a few minutes to go there on your own, ladies; I'm sure Berry will wander through in the next day to give us the guided tour. (While Cheese thinks to herself, "Yeah, he can use that picture of me lying on the couch. Or better yet, I'll pose for some new ones and he can personally direct the photo shoot.")

[SharonRB]

183. No. swear I'm acting alone

Well, maybe with Bunny -- we both thought it would be fun to see what everyone looks like. Honest injun!

[gkhouston]

184. Suuuuuure....

;-) I'll have to look through what photos we have that are digital. We're not one of those "it didn't happen unless you took a picture of it" families and I have a sinking feeling there may not be any pictures of me that don't have the munchkin in 'em and my husband would go ballistic if I posted one of those. He wasn't too thrilled about the "shoot your mug with our mug" idea, but that's because I had some bad net encounters in the past -- I've been on the net a looong time and having an obviously feminine userid back in the 80's attracted a lot of creeps. If we don't have anything suitable in the stash that's recent, I'll either have to take a new picture and wait to get the film developed, or go back a couple of years to when the munchkin's so tiny she doesn't look anything like what she does now; I haven't changed that much in a few years' time.

[SharonRB]

199. Seems like at least one person is willing to share their photo!

Thanks, GK.

[gkhouston]

201. why not?

I look great on a popsicle stick! :7

[SharonRB]

202. LOL

A popsicle stick would be an improvement on my body these days -- I feel like I'll never lose the almost 20 lbs I've put on since November. Maybe if a few of us post ours we can get the others to join in.

[gkhouston]

203. well, I'm going to have to dig one up first and then figure out

how to make it work. I've signed up for the Photobucket account, so that part's done. Maybe we should agree on a date and have a picture party?

[RevCheesehead]

190. If he does KOEB Puppet Theatre,

then I hope he uses the one of Sparky in his toolbelt. :loveya:

And, of course, Botany and Steph would be inseparable.

[bleever]

101. Soooooo...you ladies new in town?

:)

Nice pics!

[SharonRB]

119. No, you've just never noticed us before. We've been here.

[bleever]

126. Buy you girls a cosmo?

And BTW, Sharon, when I got my first taste of Manhattan a couple months ago, I made it a point to have a cosmopolitan, and it was delightful.

:hi:

[SharonRB]

128. It's my fave and, yes, I'd love one

There was a going away party yesterday for someone at work who's leaving to go to another company and I had a fabulous one -- I like it light on the vodka and it was perfect, with little pieces of ice chips that made it super cold. The only thing wrong with it was that it was $9.50 -- way too much to have another. I don't every think I've paid that much before. So, I'd love one if you're buying tonight.

[bleever]

136. Here you go.

Hope it's okay if I leave the shaker.

[SharonRB]

141. Absolut - ly!

Thanks, Bleev. Mmmmmmmmm, that's good.

[Berry Cool]

135. Thanks, and cool pix!

Sorry I didn't reduce Keith too...but then again I know how much you all love the Giant Economy Size.

[RevCheesehead]

60. So these were primarily oxygen canisters?

Damn - I hope that ain't the one that supplies WI - that would include my mom. :(

[Berry Cool]

110. Me too...

but did you see the tears spring up in Keith's eyes when he heard that a BASEBALL game had been affected by the explosions?

"Oh no, not a baseball game..."

...just kiddin'. :-)

[Sydnie]

61. This story is killing Rehema

It's so sad. :cry:

[bunny planet]

62. I thought I had gone upstairs after the story about the little boys

in the car. I ended up seeing it. What a sad piece of footage that was. Those poor little boys and their families. Just horrible.

[SharonRB]

84. Did you see our photo?

I'll send you a hard copy.

[bunny planet]

92. I just saw it and posted to you about it. We look maaarvelous.

[crispini]

64. Hi ladies

just got home. A friend of mine's house burnt down last night and I just found out. It's so awful; he doesn't have anything left.

[SharonRB]

67. Oh, how terrible

About 9 or 10 years ago the house of someone I work with burned down. We were both working late when she found out. It was just terrible. Everyone from work brought stuff in for them -- clothes, etc.

[Rhiannon12866]

72. That happened where I worked, as well.

Really nice man, older guy. And then his wife died. I felt so bad for him.;(

[crispini]

76. Yes, I was just thinking maybe we could have

a re-housewarming or something. Thankfully, he's got insurance on the house, although I don't know that he had the contents insured too. I hope so.

[Berry Cool]

113. The re-housewarming sounds like a great idea

although you might not want to call it a "warming"...

At least he had insurance on the house. He should find out EXACTLY what it covered and not rest until he gets all the claim he's due to.

[RevCheesehead]

121. Maybe a "cool house party"?

I'd chip in for a lava lamp. :)

[Rhiannon12866]

68. OMG! I am so sorry!

What a tragedy.;(

[crispini]

79. He's at the hotel now

and he's asleep. So, that's good. The Red Cross paid for a week of the hotel.

[bunny planet]

123. I'm so sorry for your friend Crispini.

[Rhiannon12866]

157. Thanks for telling me this. I just feel so bad for him.

I just can't imagine.:-(

[Patsy Stone]

69. Oh, crispini...

How awful for him.

[crispini]

81. Yeah, his dog is fine at least.

It's over at my mom's house. But his parrot died. :(

[Sydnie]

71. Crispini, that's horrible

I hope no one was hurt. Things can be replaced, but people can't.

Anything we can do to help?

[crispini]

83. No, the worst is, of course, the stuff that can't be replaced.

Thankfully we were able to save a lot of his pictures.

Unfortunately the fire was started by his alcoholic roommate who left a candle burning. We told him he should throw this guy out but he didn't want to... :(

[Berry Cool]

138. Nothing like careless people, is there?

Time to kick that guy to the curb...way past time.

[WolverineDG]

86. oh no crispy!

i'm so sorry about your friend's house. let us know if there's something we can do &/or send.

dg

[crispini]

90. Thanks

I'll pass on the good wishes!

[Berry Cool]

111. How sad, crispi.

I knew we were getting to the part of the thread about those poor boys...and what a sad piece of news to add to it. *sigh*

My heart aches for anyone in that situation.

[WolverineDG]

70. Flipper-er-er

:rofl:

but now on to the three boys in NJ.... :cry: we had an incident here in town with a "missing" 6 year old girl who turned out to have been beaten to death by her "loving family" so it's a doubly sad day for me.

dg

[Berry Cool]

115. Oh, boy, the sad stories

just seem to pile up, don't they? :-(

[WolverineDG]

156. If there is an upside to such stories

it's this: the family called in a missing child report to the police at about the same time that someone else found her body. The cops busted the mom, step-dad, and his parents almost immediately & CPS took the other 3 kids. Here's hoping all these adults serve hard time.

dg

[Rhiannon12866]

74. Ending on a gross note! Yuck!

:puke:

[Patsy Stone]

75. And it ends with Miami

Home of WTVJ :) Love you, KO! :loveya::loveya:

[Berry Cool]

117. Don't you love those city shout-outs from MSNBC?

I also love how sometimes they do a really special one...like after the royal wedding news one night they showed Buckingham Palace. Pretty funny.

[Patsy Stone]

187. I'm late, but the answer is yes.

And it was nice to see Miami lookin' so pretty. And I do remember the Buckingham Palace one. :)