Mass disillusionment...not only for us, but for Keith. Again.

[Berry Cool]

I guess we got taken in. And we had a lot of good company.

All I can say is, I'm glad that by the time the Ohio primary rolled around, voting for Edwards was a non-issue.

Sad...very sad. And angering. All we can do is thank God he didn't end up being the presumptive Dem nominee.

I feel terrible for Elizabeth. Although it's very hard to understand how she could accept and forgive this, I don't know her as a person, and maybe she's a better person than I am.

But at the same time, I ask myself: Why did she keep up the facade for years? Why did she let him run? Didn't she know this day would eventually come, that he would eventually be found out and, when he was, it would all be over? Was she really able to tell herself that he was such a good man for the country and that could do so much good in the interim that they just had to take the chance?

I can't figure it out. It just makes no sense to me.

There's an aspect of it that I take personally, too.

I can only imagine what's going through Keith's mind. Yet another couple of people he trusted who turned out not to be what he thought they were. And he ADORED Elizabeth. Probably still does. Probably more so than he liked John. And yet, he has to be asking himself the same question: Why? Why did she let him go on?

No, this sure doesn't make Dems "worse" than Repugs (we'd have to have a lot more guys to catch up with them), nor should it reflect on Obama, nor should it distract people away from our country's and the world's very serious problems.

But what an appalling lack of class. Cheating on a wife who'd already been through cancer...with a younger woman...and putting her on your payroll at six figures, even though she lacked all qualification for the job. Then, after your wife finds out, talking her into keeping her silence, so that you can run for president minus the taint of scandal.

And, oh yeah, I bet the kid is his, too.

It's just disgusting. And I don't care how many people on DU say it's just evidence that he's human and a lot of guys do it. It's just disgusting. There's no excuse for it. It all just makes me sad.

I dread to think how Keith will look and sound tonight.

[Patsy Stone]

1. TODAY -- By Elizabeth Edwards

http://www.democraticunderground.com/discuss/duboard.php?az=view_all&address=389x3756842

I think I'm going to watch the Olympics. :hi:

[SharonRB]

2. I'm watching the opening ceremonies

But I'm going to watch KO at 10.

Tsk, tsk, John. I'm really disappointed and disillusioned. How could he with a wonderful wife like Elizabeth?

[Berry Cool]

3. I am coming to a conclusion I never really wanted to come to

and I would love for someone to talk me off this ledge before I do.

Namely, the conclusion that all men--no matter their age, wealth, looks, intelligence, wisdom, common sense or generosity of spirit, heart and soul--really want nothing more in this life than to fuck a blonde bimbo younger than themselves.

And, if at all possible, for others to stand around pointing at them and saying, "Look, that guy's fucking a blonde bimbo younger than himself. And why? Just because he can. What a man HE is. I sure wish I were him."

Please tell me I'm wrong.

[Botany]

4. You are so wrong

about the blond part :rofl:

[Berry Cool]

7. Oh, and thanks a lot, Bot.

:rofl: I knew I could count on your for the Sensitive New Age Man's viewpoint. :rofl:

[marlakay]

5. Hi berrybush

I feel the same way. She wrote to dailykos and I told her that I feel bad for her but how could she let him run knowing there is no way this wouldn't have come out, she could have ruined our chances for winning this time. And it really bums me out because i have always liked and respected her.

To tell the truth I haven't felt that way about her husband he always seemed a bit too smooth and like a salesman to me.

And what you said about men and sex...I often wonder sometimes about my own husband. He wants sex all the time and I am not that into it in my 50's after menopause. What can I say? It was alot more fun in my 30's. I notice he looks up porn and I think if I don't give him enough will he start cheating?

Its times like this it makes you wonder....

[Berry Cool]

6. Oh dear, marlakay.

I'm no marriage counselor, but it sounds like you have to have a conversation with your husband about sex. If your drives aren't matching anymore, it could cause problems. That doesn't mean you're wrong to not be as much into it or that he's wrong to want lots of it--it just means that if you're not both on the same wavelength, it could be an issue. And it sounds like it could lead to either him being unfaithful or simply becoming a porn addict. The fact that he's looking up porn online is a warning sign that he's seeking some means of resolving the situation that could get out of hand--either because he could convert his desires into action, or because he could become hooked on the fantasy images he finds online to the point where it creates as big a rift in your marriage as if he was cheating on you with real people.

I'd say, see a professional and talk to that person about the difference in your sex drives and your concern about the effect it will have on your husband's behavior and your marriage--before it's too late (assuming it is). The two of you should be able to discuss it in a nonjudgmental way and figure out how to deal with it. (One solution may be to find a way to increase your drive--you wouldn't be the first woman to "not that into it after menopause"--but that's just one possibility.)

The best of luck to you. I think you will feel better just for taking some proactive action. You don't have to get your husband to go with you first. You can approach someone on your own about your concerns, then go to your husband, saying you sought professional help because you were concerned about the situation, and you love him and you're not trying to condemn his feelings, but rather figure out some way to make things better for both of you. When you tell him that, he may be more motivated to go to counseling with you. The important thing is not to be judgmental. Neither of you is wrong to want either more or less sex--the only reason this is a problem is that your desires don't match anymore, and when desires don't match, the potential for the person who wants more to seek it elsewhere is always present.