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Patsy Stone Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Mon Jun-01-09 07:03 PM
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KOEB Meeting: 06/01/09 -- Right Wing Terrorism in America Edition
:hi:, all! Thanks, Keith for calling 'em like ya see 'em.

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SharonRB Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Mon Jun-01-09 07:04 PM
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1. Hi, Pats
I think the time to quarantine Faux News came a long time ago.

:hi:
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SeattleGirl Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Mon Jun-01-09 07:06 PM
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5. Hi Sharon.
I couldn't agree more.

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Berry Cool Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Mon Jun-01-09 07:17 PM
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23. Amen to both of you
:hi: and to Keith for being here.

I just wish I believed things would change.
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ralps Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Mon Jun-01-09 07:05 PM
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2. Hi Patsy! Hi Everyone!
:hi: :loveya: :hug: :pals: :woohoo:
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SeattleGirl Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Mon Jun-01-09 07:07 PM
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7. Hey ralps
:hi:

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Patsy Stone Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Mon Jun-01-09 07:05 PM
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3. Pro-Life apparently doesn't mean pro *all* life.
And WTF is the Malkin doing getting herself in the middle of this whole tragedy anyhow?
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SeattleGirl Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Mon Jun-01-09 07:08 PM
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9. For people like the shooter and Randall Terry, pro-life only applies
to the fetus.

After that, you're on your own.

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SeattleGirl Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Mon Jun-01-09 07:05 PM
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4. Hi Patsy
This Tiller assassination really upsets me. This freakin' hatemonging murderers need to pay for what they did, and continue to do.

Plus, my SIL works for Planned Parenthood, and they've had protesters at their clinic. :scared:

Oh, and Randall Terry can go f**k himself!

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Patsy Stone Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Mon Jun-01-09 07:07 PM
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6. So misguided and so dangerous.
These psychos can't see past the end of their own hate.

Tell your sister to be extra careful. Please?
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SeattleGirl Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Mon Jun-01-09 07:08 PM
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11. Gonna give her a call tonight, see how she's doing,.
I'm just glad Holder called out the US Marshalls on this one.

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Patsy Stone Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Mon Jun-01-09 07:09 PM
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12. Indeed
:hug:
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SharonRB Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Mon Jun-01-09 07:07 PM
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8. Hartmann had him on today
I was in a meeting and missed that part of the show, but some people on DU were saying Thom wasn't hard enough on him.
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SeattleGirl Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Mon Jun-01-09 07:09 PM
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13. I wasn't able to listen, as I had to be on a conference call.
I have no idea why Hartmann had him on. I know Thom likes to have right wingers on now and then, and that's fine.

But Randall Terry is a hate monger, and I don't think he deserves any air time.

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SharonRB Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Mon Jun-01-09 07:11 PM
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15. Yes, like Nancy, Thom likes to engage the other side
He's had him on before, too.
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Patsy Stone Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Mon Jun-01-09 07:08 PM
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10. Hey, Rev!
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SharonRB Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Mon Jun-01-09 07:10 PM
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14. I wish he'd come here
There's a big National Summit in Detroit in a couple of weeks and he really should be here.
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RevCheesehead Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Mon Jun-01-09 07:14 PM
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17. He loves me.
Maybe he can help me find a place to live.

:hi:
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Patsy Stone Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Mon Jun-01-09 07:14 PM
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18. Maybe there's an extra room at the WH?
Edited on Mon Jun-01-09 07:14 PM by Patsy Stone
I'm sure Bo would like the kitties. :hi:
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RevCheesehead Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Mon Jun-01-09 07:15 PM
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20. or maybe I can rent his house in Chicago.
If so, I'll host the KOEB meet-up this year.
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SeattleGirl Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Mon Jun-01-09 07:17 PM
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22. If you're house sitting, you could probably stay for free!
Wouldn't THAT be something?!!

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WolverineDG Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Mon Jun-01-09 07:18 PM
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24. the house across the street from me is available!
:)

:hi:

dg
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Patsy Stone Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Mon Jun-01-09 07:24 PM
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33. Then I'd only have to make one stop to see both of you!
:thumbsup:

:hi:
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Patsy Stone Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Mon Jun-01-09 07:12 PM
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16. Thank you, Keith
Edited on Mon Jun-01-09 07:13 PM by Patsy Stone
Thank you for referring to him as a woman's health provider. I'm pretty sure no one gets a degree to become a "late term abortionist", although you'd never know that from our MSM.
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SeattleGirl Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Mon Jun-01-09 07:15 PM
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19. Truly.
I have a friend who had to have one. It was NOT an easy decision for her at all, but the baby she was carrying would not have lived past the age of 5, and would have had to have 24/7 care. She and her husband already had three children who also needed care and attention. My heart just broke for her.

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Berry Cool Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Mon Jun-01-09 07:29 PM
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37. Every story I have heard of women/girls who seek this kind of abortion
has been tragic. How anyone can deny it to them, and paint them as lazy slutty females who use abortion as a form of birth control but couldn't be bothered to get it done until the last minute when they finally penciled the destruction of their babies in on their busy social calendars, is beyond me.
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Patsy Stone Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Mon Jun-01-09 07:17 PM
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21. Are Keith's eyebrows getting larger?
It looks like they're taking over his face all of a sudden.
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Berry Cool Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Mon Jun-01-09 07:20 PM
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25. Sometimes they do that.
But we :loveya: the caterpillars, don't we, Rev???

And we love Keith, the supposed woman-hating sexist, for what he is doing tonight.
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SharonRB Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Mon Jun-01-09 07:20 PM
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26. I can't wait to see that WH special tomorrow and Wednesday.
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Patsy Stone Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Mon Jun-01-09 07:21 PM
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27. Me either!
Edited on Mon Jun-01-09 07:21 PM by Patsy Stone
:popcorn: It's almost as good as a show about the British royals. :)

:hi:
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SeattleGirl Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Mon Jun-01-09 07:21 PM
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28. I'm looking forward to it too!
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SharonRB Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Mon Jun-01-09 07:23 PM
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30. Poor Rachel will lose a lot of viewers.
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SharonRB Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Mon Jun-01-09 07:22 PM
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29. Did you guys get Moore's letter today?
He's pretty happy about this.
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Patsy Stone Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Mon Jun-01-09 07:24 PM
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31. I didn't.
But I can believe he would be. I need to go watch Roger & Me again. It's been years since I've seen it.
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SharonRB Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Mon Jun-01-09 07:25 PM
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34. It's long, but here it is
Goodbye, GM
by Michael Moore

June 1, 2009

I write this on the morning of the end of the once-mighty General Motors. By high noon, the President of the United States will have made it official: General Motors, as we know it, has been totaled.

As I sit here in GM's birthplace, Flint, Michigan, I am surrounded by friends and family who are filled with anxiety about what will happen to them and to the town. Forty percent of the homes and businesses in the city have been abandoned. Imagine what it would be like if you lived in a city where almost every other house is empty. What would be your state of mind?

It is with sad irony that the company which invented "planned obsolescence" -- the decision to build cars that would fall apart after a few years so that the customer would then have to buy a new one -- has now made itself obsolete. It refused to build automobiles that the public wanted, cars that got great gas mileage, were as safe as they could be, and were exceedingly comfortable to drive. Oh -- and that wouldn't start falling apart after two years. GM stubbornly fought environmental and safety regulations. Its executives arrogantly ignored the "inferior" Japanese and German cars, cars which would become the gold standard for automobile buyers. And it was hell-bent on punishing its unionized workforce, lopping off thousands of workers for no good reason other than to "improve" the short-term bottom line of the corporation. Beginning in the 1980s, when GM was posting record profits, it moved countless jobs to Mexico and elsewhere, thus destroying the lives of tens of thousands of hard-working Americans. The glaring stupidity of this policy was that, when they eliminated the income of so many middle class families, who did they think was going to be able to afford to buy their cars? History will record this blunder in the same way it now writes about the French building the Maginot Line or how the Romans cluelessly poisoned their own water system with lethal lead in its pipes.

So here we are at the deathbed of General Motors. The company's body not yet cold, and I find myself filled with -- dare I say it -- joy. It is not the joy of revenge against a corporation that ruined my hometown and brought misery, divorce, alcoholism, homelessness, physical and mental debilitation, and drug addiction to the people I grew up with. Nor do I, obviously, claim any joy in knowing that 21,000 more GM workers will be told that they, too, are without a job.

But you and I and the rest of America now own a car company! I know, I know -- who on earth wants to run a car company? Who among us wants $50 billion of our tax dollars thrown down the rat hole of still trying to save GM? Let's be clear about this: The only way to save GM is to kill GM. Saving our precious industrial infrastructure, though, is another matter and must be a top priority. If we allow the shutting down and tearing down of our auto plants, we will sorely wish we still had them when we realize that those factories could have built the alternative energy systems we now desperately need. And when we realize that the best way to transport ourselves is on light rail and bullet trains and cleaner buses, how will we do this if we've allowed our industrial capacity and its skilled workforce to disappear?

Thus, as GM is "reorganized" by the federal government and the bankruptcy court, here is the plan I am asking President Obama to implement for the good of the workers, the GM communities, and the nation as a whole. Twenty years ago when I made "Roger & Me," I tried to warn people about what was ahead for General Motors. Had the power structure and the punditocracy listened, maybe much of this could have been avoided. Based on my track record, I request an honest and sincere consideration of the following suggestions:

1. Just as President Roosevelt did after the attack on Pearl Harbor, the President must tell the nation that we are at war and we must immediately convert our auto factories to factories that build mass transit vehicles and alternative energy devices. Within months in Flint in 1942, GM halted all car production and immediately used the assembly lines to build planes, tanks and machine guns. The conversion took no time at all. Everyone pitched in. The fascists were defeated.

We are now in a different kind of war -- a war that we have conducted against the ecosystem and has been conducted by our very own corporate leaders. This current war has two fronts. One is headquartered in Detroit. The products built in the factories of GM, Ford and Chrysler are some of the greatest weapons of mass destruction responsible for global warming and the melting of our polar icecaps. The things we call "cars" may have been fun to drive, but they are like a million daggers into the heart of Mother Nature. To continue to build them would only lead to the ruin of our species and much of the planet.

The other front in this war is being waged by the oil companies against you and me. They are committed to fleecing us whenever they can, and they have been reckless stewards of the finite amount of oil that is located under the surface of the earth. They know they are sucking it bone dry. And like the lumber tycoons of the early 20th century who didn't give a damn about future generations as they tore down every forest they could get their hands on, these oil barons are not telling the public what they know to be true -- that there are only a few more decades of useable oil on this planet. And as the end days of oil approach us, get ready for some very desperate people willing to kill and be killed just to get their hands on a gallon can of gasoline.

President Obama, now that he has taken control of GM, needs to convert the factories to new and needed uses immediately.

2. Don't put another $30 billion into the coffers of GM to build cars. Instead, use that money to keep the current workforce -- and most of those who have been laid off -- employed so that they can build the new modes of 21st century transportation. Let them start the conversion work now.

3. Announce that we will have bullet trains criss-crossing this country in the next five years. Japan is celebrating the 45th anniversary of its first bullet train this year. Now they have dozens of them. Average speed: 165 mph. Average time a train is late: under 30 seconds. They have had these high speed trains for nearly five decades -- and we don't even have one! The fact that the technology already exists for us to go from New York to L.A. in 17 hours by train, and that we haven't used it, is criminal. Let's hire the unemployed to build the new high speed lines all over the country. Chicago to Detroit in less than two hours. Miami to DC in under 7 hours. Denver to Dallas in five and a half. This can be done and done now.

4. Initiate a program to put light rail mass transit lines in all our large and medium-sized cities. Build those trains in the GM factories. And hire local people everywhere to install and run this system.

5. For people in rural areas not served by the train lines, have the GM plants produce energy efficient clean buses.

6. For the time being, have some factories build hybrid or all-electric cars (and batteries). It will take a few years for people to get used to the new ways to transport ourselves, so if we're going to have automobiles, let's have kinder, gentler ones. We can be building these next month (do not believe anyone who tells you it will take years to retool the factories -- that simply isn't true).

7. Transform some of the empty GM factories to facilities that build windmills, solar panels and other means of alternate forms of energy. We need tens of millions of solar panels right now. And there is an eager and skilled workforce who can build them.

8. Provide tax incentives for those who travel by hybrid car or bus or train. Also, credits for those who convert their home to alternative energy.

9. To help pay for this, impose a two-dollar tax on every gallon of gasoline. This will get people to switch to more energy saving cars or to use the new rail lines and rail cars the former autoworkers have built for them.

Well, that's a start. Please, please, please don't save GM so that a smaller version of it will simply do nothing more than build Chevys or Cadillacs. This is not a long-term solution. Don't throw bad money into a company whose tailpipe is malfunctioning, causing a strange odor to fill the car.

100 years ago this year, the founders of General Motors convinced the world to give up their horses and saddles and buggy whips to try a new form of transportation. Now it is time for us to say goodbye to the internal combustion engine. It seemed to serve us well for so long. We enjoyed the car hops at the A&W. We made out in the front -- and the back -- seat. We watched movies on large outdoor screens, went to the races at NASCAR tracks across the country, and saw the Pacific Ocean for the first time through the window down Hwy. 1. And now it's over. It's a new day and a new century. The President -- and the UAW -- must seize this moment and create a big batch of lemonade from this very sour and sad lemon.

Yesterday, the last surviving person from the Titanic disaster passed away. She escaped certain death that night and went on to live another 97 years.

So can we survive our own Titanic in all the Flint Michigans of this country. 60% of GM is ours. I think we can do a better job.

Yours,
Michael Moore
MMFlint@aol.com
MichaelMoore.com

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Patsy Stone Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Mon Jun-01-09 07:42 PM
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49. Good letter
But I don't see cars disappearing completely, as much as I know they should.

I'd love a high speed rail. We voted one in, and then they told us we couldn't have it because there was no money. :mad:
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SharonRB Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Mon Jun-01-09 07:46 PM
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55. The ballot measure didn't include a way to fund it?
:crazy:
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Patsy Stone Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Mon Jun-01-09 07:48 PM
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58. It did
but then Jeb told us we couldn't afford it, so it ended back up on the ballot, worded so yes meant no, and poof! no rail. This is, after all, Florida.

http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Florida_High_Speed_Rail
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Berry Cool Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Mon Jun-01-09 08:04 PM
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65. I don't think they will completely disappear either.
Edited on Mon Jun-01-09 08:07 PM by Berry Cool
But boy, could we do a lot more to improve our transportation infrastructure so they are needed less.

It's like I said in this post:

http://www.democraticunderground.com/discuss/duboard.php?az=view_all&address=315x146170

Part of the reason Keith had a tough time at ESPN and probably could never have worked there for a long, long time was the sense of isolation he felt being forced, as a non-driver, to nevertheless live in the heart of suburbia in order to get to his workplace and back. Sure, he could get to his job with relative ease...but everything else was an effort. He must've felt like a damn turtle on its back much of the time in terms of personal mobility.

It's not like that in New York, obviously. And it wasn't even that bad in LA, from what he says.
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bleever Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Mon Jun-01-09 07:24 PM
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32. Monorail!


:hi:
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Patsy Stone Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Mon Jun-01-09 07:27 PM
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35. Ours still doesn't go to the airport.
Edited on Mon Jun-01-09 07:31 PM by Patsy Stone
:hi:

Once upon a time, Disney bid for the Miami-Dade transit system. Par for the course, we didn't go with that offer. My guess is there wasn't enough graft in the deal for the city commission.

I was always happiest when we ended up on the purple one:

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bleever Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Mon Jun-01-09 07:30 PM
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38. The monorail
totally rocks that shade of purple.

:hi:
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Berry Cool Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Mon Jun-01-09 07:31 PM
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41. I wasn't crazy about Detroit's "People Mover" either
the one time I was on it. I doubt anyone is.
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Berry Cool Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Mon Jun-01-09 07:27 PM
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36. Keith's great-grandfather bought Polish war bonds?
There's a joke in there somewhere.
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Patsy Stone Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Mon Jun-01-09 07:30 PM
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40. The joke is the truth
It was the right choice. :rofl:
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SeattleGirl Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Mon Jun-01-09 07:30 PM
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39. Our new light rail system is opening in a month or so.
I'm excited! Lots of people around here already right the commuter trains we have; I bet a lot more will start riding the light rail when it opens.

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SharonRB Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Mon Jun-01-09 07:34 PM
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42. Maybe we'll get some mass transit before I'm too feeble to use it
They've had so many plans over the years and they've gone nowhere. Now they actually seem to be making progress, but it's going to be a long time before anything actually gets done.
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SeattleGirl Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Mon Jun-01-09 07:36 PM
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44. I think they should study the system they have in Portland, OR
Combination of buses and light rail. Laid out very well. I was getting really frustrated with the idiots around here. They had so many different ideas, and it took forever for them to come together on the light rail. It was worse than herding cats!

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SharonRB Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Mon Jun-01-09 07:39 PM
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46. Ours will have to be some kind of combo
to really do much good. Our suburbs are so sprawling and far from the city. They're getting very close to rail from Detroit to Ann Arbor, which will be nice for football Saturdays. I'd love to take the train and not have to drive and deal with the traffic.
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SeattleGirl Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Mon Jun-01-09 07:40 PM
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47. That would be a blast! We often take the bus to the baseball
games, as it's a direct shot up the freeway to the ballpark, and everyone else on the bus is a Mariner's fan too.

It's fun, and you don't have to hassle with parking.

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Patsy Stone Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Mon Jun-01-09 07:44 PM
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52. When the KOEB met in Chicago
I stayed outside the city the first night. I took the train in, and I was the only one not in Cubs regalia. When the train approached Wrigley, the announcement exclaimed, "Attention Cubs fans!" LOL. I wanted to get off the train and go to the game.
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SeattleGirl Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Mon Jun-01-09 07:46 PM
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56. At least you weren't wearing White Sox gear!
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Berry Cool Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Mon Jun-01-09 07:50 PM
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61. But the good thing about that is,
if you want to go to the game, you're never in doubt about which line to take or which direction to go!

I rode it to Wrigley on a Friday afternoon once. Hilarious--it was like the whole city was off work going to the game.
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bleever Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Mon Jun-01-09 07:34 PM
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43. Is it possible KO won't mention Cheney's taunting of Richard Clarke today?
Just when you thought he couldn't get any smarmier or assaholic.
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SeattleGirl Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Mon Jun-01-09 07:37 PM
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45. I really wish Darth would crawl back into his undisclosed location.
He's been on the tube much more in the short period of time Obama has been in office than he was in the 8 years Bush was in office!

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Berry Cool Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Mon Jun-01-09 07:43 PM
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50. Phew, for a second there I thought Keith was going to say
Darth would be Rachel's guest. :scared:

Sorry, Rachel, but that would be an automatic channel changer for me.
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SharonRB Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Mon Jun-01-09 07:42 PM
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48. There you go -- Rachel is going to cover it.
Clarke needs to make a statement and call Darth a liar.
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SeattleGirl Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Mon Jun-01-09 07:44 PM
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51. Agreed.
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Berry Cool Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Mon Jun-01-09 07:45 PM
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53. I wish I thought we could get rid of Fox News.
Please, Keith, tell us how.
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Patsy Stone Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Mon Jun-01-09 07:46 PM
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54. How about his statement
that the only other solution for some held in Gitmo is death? Nice. Begging the question: why didn't he figure out some way to kill them?
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ralps Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Mon Jun-01-09 07:48 PM
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57. Today's worst person in the world is Boss Limpballs!!
:hi: :loveya: :hug: :pals: :woohoo: :rofl:
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Berry Cool Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Mon Jun-01-09 07:49 PM
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59. David Duke called Boss Limpballs a drug addict!
Don't you love it when they fight like two scorpions in a jar?
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Patsy Stone Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Mon Jun-01-09 07:50 PM
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60. Usually I'd say let's keep the winner
but not in this case.
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Patsy Stone Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Mon Jun-01-09 07:59 PM
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62. I ask them to change FOX whenever and wherever I see it on
In fact, I think I told you one DUer suggested carrying around a universal remote and changing it yourself.

Excellent comment, KO. FOX "News" has no place in decent society.
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Berry Cool Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Mon Jun-01-09 08:01 PM
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63. Well, ladies and gentlemen, I believe we have just seen the death of Skeezix.
And Billo the Clown, the Ted Baxter of News, etc., etc., etc.

Keith means it. He's had enough. Not funny anymore.

Good.
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Berry Cool Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Mon Jun-01-09 08:02 PM
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64. I will never just turn away from it again.
I will ask that it please not be shown, or I will leave. Under all possible circumstances.
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