KOEB 6-16-09 - The war will be Tweeted edition

[SharonRB]

:hi:

[SeattleGirl]

1. Hi Sharon!

I don't Twitter, but damn, I think it's pretty cool that the Iranian protesters are using it to beat the media blackout!

In other news, there are a couple of forums on this website that seem to have turned into the "I hate Obama" forums. My gawd, but some folks are making him out as worse than Bush!

[Patsy Stone]

4. Uh, oh...

Sounds like you're one of those darn apologists I've been hearing so much about.

:hi:

[SeattleGirl]

Yeah, apparently because I am not rending my garments, and

pulling my hair out while running down the street, I don't think Obama has any faults at all.

Hi Patsy. Thank God for this oasis of sanity! :hi:

[Patsy Stone]

28. It's a good place to hang out, and the drinks are cheap.

I fully understand the anger and disappointment. When emotions run high, some people tend to lash out, and I expect nothing less. However, I do have a problem with the loud protestations that if you do not think exactly like that OP believes you should, about every article/blog posting ever, no matter how hyperbolic the headline at hand, you are the enemy. What good does that do other than enable someone to get their hate on?

[SeattleGirl]

30. Exactly.

I got into it a couple of weeks ago about HOW to approach DADT (NOT whether it should be done away with), and now two people I had always gotten along with and liked think I am a raging homophobe.

[SharonRB]

Hi, SG

:hi:

Call me crazy, but I still trust him. These people just aren't giving him enough time.

[SeattleGirl]

10. I'm with you, Sharon,

Some of the loudest yelling is about DOMA and DADT. Now, I certainly understand that people want those two things gone; I do too. But I don't remember this much yelling and screaming and finger pointing when Bush was in office.

:hi:

[SharonRB]

12. Probably because they didn't expect anything from him

and they expect too much too fast from Barack. I'm sure DADT will be repealed. DOMA will be more difficult, but I certainly don't blame Barack for the Justice Department's brief. Everything can't happen all at once.

[SeattleGirl]

13. I know.

Sometimes I just get tired of all the yelling and screaming. This would probably get my ass kicked in the other forums, but sometimes, speaking softly CAN get you a far piece down the road. Sometimes, the louder one yells, the harder it is to hear what one is saying.

[SharonRB]

15. True dat.

[SharonRB]

5. Dupe

[RevCheesehead]

2. Hi Sharon!

:hi:

[SharonRB]

6. Hi, Rev

:hi:

[Patsy Stone]

8. Hola, chica!

Umbrella drink?

[RevCheesehead]

19. Oh, how lovely!

I think I'll try the green one! :hi:

[PSzymeczek]

82. I think I'll have

the radioactive blue one.

[SeattleGirl]

11. Rev!!

How are ya, gf? :hi: :loveya:

[RevCheesehead]

23. Doing OK.

Today, the door to the garage remained closed... so CC went and pouted in his kennel. :eyes:

Boxes are being filled, dust is being stirred up, .... :)

:hi: :loveya: And you?

[SeattleGirl]

26. I'm doing all right.

So, have you found a place to move to yet?

[RevCheesehead]

27. No - but I haven't really been looking lately.

Some of the same classifieds are listed, so I'm keeping them as a last resort. I guess the question is, "am I there yet?" :crazy:

[SeattleGirl]

29. Well, just remember Rev,

No matter where you go, there you are!

(Or something like that......)

[SharonRB]

32. That's my daughter's favorite quote

When we saw the AIDS quilt in DC, that's what she wrote on one of the squares where people could write something.

I think it's "Wherever you go, there you are."

[SeattleGirl]

34. Very cool! When did you see the quilt?

I saw it years ago. Still gives me chills thinking about it, it's such an amazing thing.

[SharonRB]

42. When my daughter was in school at American U in DC

It was the October of her sophomore year, I think, which would have been 1996. The unfurling ceremony was amazing.
We had to get there before daylight -- I went with her and a bunch of her friends from the dorm - they were all helping unfurl a panel. We got dropped off at the wrong end of the mall and had to walk all the way to the other end in the dark.

[SeattleGirl]

43. It was already laid out when I saw it.

That's pretty cool that your daughter and her friends got to unfurl one of the panels!

[SharonRB]

47. The ceremony is very, very cool

and very moving.

[Berry Cool]

56. I've never seen it all at once, but I contributed to and helped donate a panel once.

It was very moving being able to present it to the mother and friends of the man it was for.

[SeattleGirl]

62. Bless your heart, Berry

That must have been an amazingly beautiful experience.

[Berry Cool]

77. Oh, it was.

Kinda awkward because, as a result of circumstances beyond my control, I had to do it with a person I did not get along with at all. But it was still something I wouldn't trade.

[SeattleGirl]

79. At least you were both on the right side of things.

[GigiMommy]

53. Oh wow, I thought about going to American U to study.

How's your daughter doing and did she like going there?

[SharonRB]

65. She's doing okay

other than that she and her boyfriend broke up and she moved back home again. She sort of half moved out because he lives closer to her job.

She liked AU.

[RevCheesehead]

33. That, I am.

And then some! :toast:

[Berry Cool]

66. I hope you find the perfect place for you soon, Rev.

You will feel so good once you do!

[Patsy Stone]

3. Evening!

You beat me to the punch. Mine was going to be "Old Man Yells at Iran" :hi:

[SharonRB]

7. Hiya, Pats

:hi:

[Berry Cool]

22. Ooh! Keith in the pink tie with buttons unbuttoned!!!!

Ahhhhh..... *KLUNKKKK* :loveya:

[SharonRB]

9. We should have been in the streets like this

in 2000 and 2004.

[Berry Cool]

25. We should have.

Those are some tough people.

[GigiMommy]

49. YEEEESSSSSSSSSS!!!!

sorry, I had to get that out. It burns me that nothing happened.:hi:

[SharonRB]

14. I checked out the #iranelection search on Twitter last night

Within seconds there were like 50 new posts. They just don't stop.

[SeattleGirl]

16. Sharon, do you actually have to have a Twitter account to read

those posts?

[SharonRB]

17. I'm not sure

Let me go log out and try it.

[SharonRB]

18. Looks like you have to log in before you can do anything

So, yes, you need an account.

[SeattleGirl]

21. Okay, thanks.

Haven't really been that interested in having a Twitter account, but now I'm thinking I might want to get one, so I can follow the tweets from Iran.

[Berry Cool]

20. Hi folks...

:hi: Why does Obama want to keep White House visitation records secret?

I don't like that.

Damn, I still support him and I don't want to act like I'm ready to throw him in the trash after only 5 1/2 months because I'm not, but what's up with THAT crap???

And please don't give me any variations on "He's playing chess."

Thank you.

[SeattleGirl]

24. Hi Berry

I'm actually kind of confused about that. I've read that it's more the Secret Service's call, rather than Obama's call.

And then I've read the opposite, so I just don't know.

If it IS Obama's call, then I'm with you, and think they should be released.

[RevCheesehead]

31. To keep friendly Republicans anonymous?

I'm thinking of Nicodemus visiting Jesus late at night. Sometimes you can't be seen consorting with the enemy.

:hi:

[Berry Cool]

36. I'd like to believe that. But it's also the people's house.

See, it's like this: I, like Keith, have concerns (but NOT concern-troll concerns) about things. I don't think that makes me a bad person. I don't expect overnight change and I understand things are difficult sometimes. But that said, I want to see boldness from this administration, which was elected with a mandate to make BOLD changes--and has the votes to make them. I don't want compromise, appeasement and bipartisanism to rule the day all the time.

And it gets me angry when some DU'ers are more than ready to throw Keith under the bus just because he is doing WHAT HE SHOULD BE DOING as a journalist: not praising Obama all the time, but watchdogging him. THAT'S HIS JOB. WHAT ELSE DID THEY THINK IT WAS????

What's more, it's OUR JOB as the people who ELECTED him.

Yet some of them just want to sit back and worship.

[SeattleGirl]

39. That's true, Berry; some people do want to just worship. And others

what to kick Obama down the road at the least little thing.

Holding him accountable is certainly what we should be doing; I believe it is our responsibility. I just think there is a middle ground somewhere that some folks (NOT you or anyone here) are totally unwilling to see. He's either all good or all bad to them.

[Berry Cool]

44. I take the middle ground. I have no idea why some other people are so incapable of it.

Although I do think that maybe some of the kicks in the ass are warranted.

I can't blame gay people for being sick of waiting. I think his feet need to be held to the fire about DADT and DOMA. It's like any other civil rights; people are tired of being told "Be patient." MLK didn't stand for "Be patient."

As for health care, I want to see him nailed to offering single payer.

[SeattleGirl]

50. I don't either.

Some want to stick their heads in the sand; others want to throw the baby out with the bathwater.

[PSzymeczek]

83. That's it!!

You've given the perfect expression to what I've been feeling.

[Patsy Stone]

38. Robert Gibbs

http://www.democraticunderground.com/discuss/duboard.php?az=view_all&address=132x8475441

The logs (old and current), and their visability, are the part of the last suit where people were suing Bush to release them. The directive to keep them secret is still in place. Boooo.

There's a lot more here: http://www.msnbc.msn.com/id/31373407/ns/politics-white_house/page/2/

I don't like it either, and I hope they change this, among other things, very soon.

[GigiMommy]

35. Hello Everybody!!! Day 2 of Cassie's Summer Vacation and

we saw "UP" and took her Daddy to the airport (off to Wimbledon).

:hi: :bounce: :bounce: :bounce: :bounce: :bounce: :bounce: :bounce: :bounce: :bounce: :bounce: :bounce: :bounce: :bounce: :bounce: :bounce: :bounce: :grouphug: :grouphug:

[SeattleGirl]

41. Hi Gigi!

And hi, Miss Cassie!

[GigiMommy]

51. Hi SG!!!

We LOVE Dug!

[SeattleGirl]

52. Hehe! That's cute!

[RevCheesehead]

37. "it turned out to be Jeff Goldblum"

:rofl:

[Berry Cool]

40. Better him than David Hedison.

Wow, didn't that bug realize...the White House is a "No-Fly Zone."

[SeattleGirl]

46. .....

:spray:

[Berry Cool]

78. My favorite: raccoons in the Pepsi machine.

Too hilarious.

[bleever]

45. Or, to paraphrase: He shot himself right in the Glen Beck.

:hi:

[SeattleGirl]

48. Hi bleev!

:hi:

[SharonRB]

54. Well, that news might help with the LGBT community

[Berry Cool]

64. It's a good thing, I think.

Um, you know, for a guy who is supposedly so macho, Rush Limbaugh sure spends a lot of time telling other people they're going to have to bend over and hold their ankles.

[SeattleGirl]

71. Not so much, I think.

http://www.democraticunderground.com/discuss/duboard.php?az=view_all&address=132x8475637

http://www.democraticunderground.com/discuss/duboard.php?az=view_all&address=389x5864507

[Berry Cool]

80. At least some people in those threads

are speaking sense.

Then you have the ones too blind with anger to see straight.

[GigiMommy]

74. ...

:rofl:

[ralps]

55. Hi SharonRB, Hi Everyone!

:hi: :loveya: :hug: :pals: :woohoo:

[RevCheesehead]

57. OMG, is that kitty ever cute!!!

:hi: Hi ralps and Crook! We're good, and hope you are, too!

[ralps]

60. Hi RevCheesehead, Crook & I are doing good & Hi to Oreo, CC & lil' Keith! How are you all doing?

Yes he/she is! :hi: :loveya: :hug: :pals: :woohoo:

[Patsy Stone]

58. Very cute!

:hi:, ralps!

[ralps]

61. Hi Patsy! Thanks!

:hi: :loveya: :hug: :pals: :woohoo:

[SeattleGirl]

63. Squeeee! Cute kittie!!!

Hi ralps! :hi:

[ralps]

67. Hi SeattleGirl!!! thanks!

:hi: :loveya: :hug: :pals: :woohoo:

[ralps]

59. Today's worst person in the world is Boss Limpballs!! on the DOMA

:hi: :loveya: :hug: :pals: :woohoo: :wtf:

[GigiMommy]

68. Hi Ralps!!! Cute Kitty!!!

:hi: :bounce: :bounce: :bounce: :bounce: :bounce:

[ralps]

69. Hi GigiMommy! & Cassie!! Thanks

:hi: :loveya: :hug: :pals: :woohoo:

[Berry Cool]

76. And Velma returns for the grand finale.

What a fine couple they make. :loveya:

[GigiMommy]

70. Velma!

:loveya: :loveya: :loveya:

[Patsy Stone]

72. She loves him; she wants to date him.

:)

:hi:

[GigiMommy]

75. Hi Patsy!!!

:hi: :bounce: :bounce: :bounce: :bounce: :bounce:

[Patsy Stone]

73. Yes, Sarah...

Leave the military out of your nutty election fantasies. :mad:

[Berry Cool]

81. The military had jack-all to do with it

She just dragged them in to hide behind.

Not only is Keith right on both his points (that the First Amendment doesn't cover TV speech and that "the troops" aren't currently fighting for Americans at all), but the true fact of the matter is that NO military fights for Americans' right to free speech. Yes, you can say they fight so we can RETAIN the right, but they don't fight to GET it for us. We already HAVE it.