KOEB Meeting 1/21/10: Democracy -- Fun While It Lasted Edition.

[bleever]

:hi:

Sad, sad day for America. Thanks for lying under oath at your confirmation hearings, Roberts and Alito!

[SeattleGirl]

1. Hi bleev! Those assholes on the SC who did this should be

flogged!

It's one thing to be able to SPEAK your opinion with words.

Now corporations can openly buy any politician they want! :grr: :grr: :grr: :grr: :grr: :grr:

[Patsy Stone]

4. We could always hold a bake sale.

Or put on a show in the backyard. That should challenge the brazillions of dollars they're going to pour into elections from now on. :mad:

[SeattleGirl]

6. Hey, there's an idea! I'm sure we could make more money

then they could! :sarcasm: :sarcasm: :sarcasm: :sarcasm: :sarcasm: (as you can see)

[Patsy Stone]

2. Is it fascism yet?

Why, yes. Yes it is! :mad:

:hi:

I'm gonna watch the show from the couch. Still a little sicky, but it hasn't gotten worse.

[SeattleGirl]

3. Hi Patsy!

Yep, it sure is. Fuckers now have MORE rights than we do.

I agree with a caller to Randi's show I heard today. He said that if corporations are people, then they should have to pay taxes JUST LIKE THE PEOPLE DO, and not hide them in offshore account.

And Boehner, STFU!!

(Glad you're feeling a little better....:hug: )

[Patsy Stone]

5. The Boner

Always the wrong answer.

[bleever]

7. All money is created equal;

it's just not distributed that way.

Sorry, suckers!

[SeattleGirl]

8. Well, we know money does talk, and those with it get to tell

those of us without much to shut up.

[bleever]

13. The tide is going to sweep this administration away if they don't get aggressive.

REAL aggressive.

[PSzymeczek]

56. "Have you seen the bigger piggies

in their starched white shirts?"

[ralps]

9. Hi bleever! Hi Everyone! IMO We need to impeach Roberts & Alito for lying to Congress!!! Grrrr

:hi: :loveya: :hug: :pals: :woohoo: :grr:

[SeattleGirl]

11. Absolutely!

Though I did suggest upthread that they should be flogged.

:hi:

[ralps]

16. Hi SeattleGirl!!! Or Tarred & Feathered & run out of town on a rail??

:hi: :loveya: :hug: :pals: :woohoo: :shrug:

[SeattleGirl]

18. Or all of the above.

[RevCheesehead]

10. So if they're people, then do they get to vote, too?

:banghead:

I think the way around this is to demand full disclosure on all TV ads, and by all candidates ("this ad is paid for by People for Fucked Up America, and funded by Butty-Fuck Insurance, on behalf of the Boner." )

And, like MSNBC is doing, all candidates should have a floaty box with their bio and connections, in all ads.

:eyes: I'm about ready to give up.

:hi: But first, pass me a beer.

[SeattleGirl]

12. Here you go, Rev:

BTW, your first line had me laughing out loud. :rofl:

:hi:

[RevCheesehead]

23. You know, the "y" just sort of showed up there...

as in "butty-fuck". I think it's kinda cute, so I'll keep it.

Thanks for the beer! :toast:

[SeattleGirl]

25. It's hysterically cute!

May I borrow it?

:rofl: Still laughing my ass off!

[RevCheesehead]

32. Be my guesty, SGy!

:)

[SeattleGirl]

34. ROFL! Thanks Revy!

SGy sounds like shorthand for SuperGirly!

[Patsy Stone]

27. That's my new screen name!

:rofl:

[RevCheesehead]

33. omg.

:spray:

[Patsy Stone]

20. I like the NASCAR patches idea.

Wear your sponsor on your sleeve. Sell space on the front of your Congressional desk. The front of the Speaker's podium should have a green screen so all the corporations who sponsored a particular legislation can have their logos rotated for the C-SPAN cameras. Let no sponsorship opportunity go to waste! :hi:

[SeattleGirl]

21. I've liked that idea for a long time.

That's exactly what they should do. They're gonna take the money so they ought not be able to hide it in any way, shape or form.

[RevCheesehead]

28. The green screen could help pay off our debt!

And re-name the halls of congress! Sell the desks! Redo the letterhead!

You know, if I actually thought evilly, I'd probably make tons of money. Of course, the downside would be having to become a repuke.

:hi:

[PSzymeczek]

57. As Randi says:

"If they can't get a mammogram, a colonoscopy, or a prostate exam, THEY'RE NOT A PERSON!!!"

[ralps]

14. By the way Air America Radio went bankrupt again, for the final time today!! They

should have kept Shelly & Anita Drobny, Mike Malloy, Randi Rhodes, Sam Seder, Mark Maron, Rachel Maddow, & Thom Hartmann & Fired their RWing Corporate Board!!
http://crooksandliars.com/bluegal/air-america-over-and-out

:hi: :loveya: :hug: :pals: :woohoo: :grr:

[SeattleGirl]

17. So THAT's why Ron Reagan's show today was a "Best of".

Damn it all to hell. He was still with AAR. I hope our local station (he lives here in Seattle and broadcasts from KPTK, our progressive radio station) continues to broadcast him, and can get him out to more affiliates.

[Patsy Stone]

22. They blew it BIG time.

It's almost good to see them finally put out of their misery. :hi:, ralps!

[ralps]

30. Hi Patsy! Yes they did!!

:hi: :loveya: :hug: :pals: :woohoo:

[bleever]

15. Grayson's website must be getting a lot of traffic at this moment.

Not responding.

Hopefully a LOT of people are VERY concerned about this.

[SeattleGirl]

19. What was the name of the website again? My cat had her tail

swishing in front of my face and I wasn't able to write it down when he said what it was.

[bleever]

24. savedemocracy.net is what I heard,

but this works, though I don't see the petition: http://grayson.house.gov/2010/01/grayson-save-our-democracy.shtml

[SeattleGirl]

26. Thanks, bleev!

[Patsy Stone]

38. Here's the link from HuffPo:

http://salsa.mydccc.org/o/30019/p/dia/action/public/?action_KEY=4

[ralps]

29. Here's Alan Grayson's official website, I can't remember the website Keith mentioned

http://grayson.house.gov/
Here's a link to a Crooks & Liars thread w/ Links to Grayson's petition- http://crooksandliars.com/john-amato/sign-alan-graysons-supreme-court-petiti

:hi: :loveya: :hug: :pals: :woohoo:

[SeattleGirl]

31. It's taking forever to load, but that's probably good. Must mean

a lot of people are signing the petition.

[bleever]

35. Found the petition here:

http://salsa.mydccc.org/o/30019/p/dia/action/public/?action_KEY=4&tag=012009_email

[ralps]

41. Thanks for the link bleever & I signed it!

:hi: :loveya: :hug: :pals: :woohoo:

[WolverineDG]

36. I hope the same rules apply to corporate people

since you have to be a US citizen to donate, I'd say any corp that wanted to donate would have to be incorporated in the US AND PAY TAXES LIKE THE REST OF US!

Oh well. Fun while it lasted.

dg

[SeattleGirl]

37. Yep, but you know they will find a way around it. I pisses me

off even more than the money is that basically, it makes it even MORE okay for non-citizens to fuck with our politics if they are part of an international corporation that does business here in the US.

[WolverineDG]

39. If noncitizens can vote, it's okay if our President was born in Kenya, right?

Right?

dg

[SeattleGirl]

40. Good point, Wolvie!

Perhaps we should just dissolve the US and each state be named after the corporations that gave the most money to their senators and reps.

[Patsy Stone]

42. I liked the "Can gay corporations marry?" thread.

And, the more things change, the more they stay the same: http://www.democraticunderground.com/discuss/duboard.php?az=show_mesg&forum=389&topic_id=7532471&mesg_id=7532471 LOFL!

:hi: and :(

[WolverineDG]

45. I thought of you when I saw that

:rofl:

Did you see the 2 broomstick up the butt posters? They were more funny than the obligatory "helpful" post. :rofl:

http://www.democraticunderground.com/discuss/duboard.php?az=show_mesg&forum=389&topic_id=7532471&mesg_id=7532654

scroll down for my comment

dg

[RevCheesehead]

52. Brilliant!

:thumbsup: :rofl:

:hi:

[WolverineDG]

54. Revy!

:hi:

dg

[bleever]

48. "76. pompous, ignorant, arrogant and petty is no way to go through life"

:7

[GigiMommy]

43. Hi Everyone!!!

Was busy trying to incorporate myself. Maybe I can get tax breaks, write-offs and a couple of Congressman in my pocket.

:hi: :bounce: :bounce: :bounce: :bounce: :bounce:



(p.s. I'm coughing up a lung)

[SeattleGirl]

44. LOL, Gigi!

Feel better soon!

:hi: :bounce: :bounce: :bounce: :bounce: :bounce:

[GigiMommy]

47. Hi SG and thanks!!!

:hi: :bounce: :bounce: :bounce: :bounce: :bounce:

[ralps]

49. Hi GigiMommy! & Cassie! Hugs to you all! & Get better soon!

:hi: :loveya: :hug: :pals: :woohoo: :hug:

[GigiMommy]

50. Hi Ralps!!!

Thanks and love the "Frenchy" kitty.:hi: :bounce: :bounce: :bounce: :bounce: :bounce:

[RevCheesehead]

53. Or a senator in your pants.

:hi:

[GigiMommy]

55. ....

:rofl: :hi: :bounce: :bounce: :bounce: :bounce: :bounce:

[SeattleGirl]

46. I know KO is going to do a Special Comment, but I hope he also

names the SCOTUS Five as his number one WPITW.

[Botany]

51. O.K. so the SCOTUS missed in this ruling but it is not like the court doesn't

..... have precedent in fucked up rulings. See Bush v Gore
Where the ruled that the counting of the vote would cause embarrassment to
Bush because the media already had said he had won the election. The ruling
was so bad that Sandra O'Connell wrote that the case was not applicable to
any past or future cases.


Allito, Roberts, Tony the Fixer, C. Thomas, and Anthony Kennedy can hurry up and die.

[Berry Cool]

58. Feel better soon, GGM.

:hi: Keith's Special Comment was great. I am sorry I missed it in person, but then again I missed the RULING news, too. Only heard fragments of it over the weekend, and when I did, my heart sank. I knew I had to hear what Keith had to say about it. I feel much better now that I have. He's right, of course.

I'm a First Amendment absolutist, but even absolutists don't defend shouting "fire" in a crowded theater when it's not on fire, and if we had absolute First Amendment protection for all speech we'd still have cigarette commercials and billboards. Oh, and we'd have kiddie porn too, wouldn't we?

Corporations are not people. It is not right for them to have the same First Amendment rights people do, no matter what Jonathan Turley says. We need to get a test case up there and fight this tooth and nail to get a ruling on corporate personhood that changes this. I would love to see a test case with someone trying to marry a corporation.

And it took guts for Keith not to hold back; he laid into Dan Abrams' dad but good. It's also obvious from what he said about this Comment on Daily Kos that he thought it was the one that might finally get him the hook. Obviously not, though.

Keep 'em coming, Keith. :loveya: