KOEB - 3/1/06 - I drove my Chevy to the Levee edition

[SharonRB]

[spooky3]

1. Hi, Sharon, he's taking on the Katrina video!

[SharonRB]

2. Hi, Spooky

:hi:

[Berry Cool]

3. And *'s levee (as in his brain) was dry!!!!

:hi: all! It's GSB and Candy Tie Night, and Keith is already en fuego with the "Bush Tapes"!

[bleever]

7. The good old boys were drinking whisky and rye...

:hi:

[Clark2008]

15. Singing, "This will be the day that I die. This will be the day that I die

[ralps]

4. Hi SharonRB, Hi Everyone, Wow is Brownie really in charge???

:hi: :loveya: :hug: :pals: :woohoo:

[bleever]

5. Looked like he was actually doing his job!

Waddaya know.

:hi:

[SharonRB]

8. Looked like he really was doing a heckuva job

Maybe he really has gotten a bum rap. Looks like it was everyone else who fell asleep on the job.

[gkhouston]

63. well, it looked like he was aware of many of the potential problems

so why did the messes happen anyway? Did he fail to follow through due a lack of action or a lack of authority? If he lacked authority, who overuled him... when... and why? And were they deliberately acting against him or merely being inactive against him?

on edit: I must admit, those clips raised my opinion of him a fair bit. At the very least, he's capable of retaining summary information given to him by capable underlings. Whether he was merely spouting it without comprehending it was not 100% clear from what I saw.

[seito]

6. Rut Row

The pretzel-dent told a lie. :wow:

I am shocked, just shocked.

Hi everybody :hi:

[SharonRB]

9. Hi, Seito

Me, too. Me, too.

Not that we didn't already know all of this, but at least we've got a smoking gun this time.

[bleever]

11. Zoinks!

:rofl:

[Clark2008]

16. Scooby-Dooby-Dooooooooooo

:rofl:

[bleever]

20. "Jinkies! It's not really the president, it's Mr. Smith, the caretaker!"

Somebody check *'s head for a rubber mask!


:rofl:

[Berry Cool]

42. And Bush woulda got away with it, too...

...if it wasn't for that meddling Keith!!!!

[spooky3]

21. I thought it was Astro (Dome) Jetson who used that pronunciation?

[ralps]

24. I think one of the characters on Scooby Doo used that phrase too

:hi: :loveya: :hug: :pals: :woohoo:

[Clark2008]

26. Scooby refers to himself that way.

I have a 6-year-old, trust me. ;)

[Clark2008]

10. LOL - but, in this case, the levee was NOT dry.

:hi: Sharon.

:hi: KOEBers!

[SharonRB]

13. Hi, Clark

:hi:

[Greylyn58]

12. Howdy All

Another kick-ass addition of Countdown on its way from Keith!!! Heck-of-a-job Olbermann!! :evilgrin: We :loveya: Keith!

YOU ARE A FREAKIN LIAR SHRUB AND YOU ARE BUSTED!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!! :argh: DAMN!!!!!!

I'll calm down now. I'm scaring my dog!! :eyes:

[ralps]

14. Let's hope these stories really get out in the Mainstream media

:hi: :loveya: :hug: :pals: :woohoo:

[bleever]

17. Did Richard Wolfe have a soul patch that he shaved off,

or was it always a shadow?

[Clark2008]

18. My honey has a soul patch.

Yummy.

:loveya:

[Berry Cool]

23. He obviously has a soul, too, and that's even more important. :-)

Anyway, what do people think will happen when these tapes really hit? Will these finally be "the smoking gun" that does * in?

[Clark2008]

28. Yes, yes, he does. And a huge heart.

(Yes, I am a newlywed. LOL!)

[gkhouston]

64. I think he shaved it off. n/t

[SharonRB]

19. WTF

The Big Dawg isn't against the port deal?

[ralps]

22. Sorry Bill Why don't you just get it over with & join the board of the

Carlyle Group!!!! :hi: :loveya: :hug: :pals: :woohoo:

[Clark2008]

25. Sometimes it seems that what he's aiming for, doesn't it?

:shrug:

[ralps]

27. It sure does seem that way to me

:hi: :loveya: :hug: :pals: :woohoo:

[WolverineDG]

29. It's the start of the Lenten season

& KO wears the Easter tie!

:hi: Sharon!

Yay! KO's going after the Katrina tapes & still on the port deal! :woohoo:

:wtf: My fave President in favor of that deal? OMG, Clinton lied--HE DID INHALE!!!!!
:wow:

dg

ps. Any sign of the Mission Statement Enforcement Brigade? :crazy:

[SharonRB]

30. Hi, DG

I'm so disappointed in Bill. How can he be for this?

[WolverineDG]

47. That certainly is a head-scratcher

Just like Carter being for it. sheesh.

dg

[gkhouston]

65. maybe they think we need that base

really bad? :shrug:

[SharonRB]

31. I just noticed I hit 7,000 posts

Must have been earlier this week.

[ralps]

32. Congratulations SharonRB!!!!!!!!!!

:hi: :loveya: :hug: :pals: :woohoo: :toast: :toast: :bounce: :bounce: :applause: :applause:

[SharonRB]

37. Thanks, ralps!

[WolverineDG]

36. Yay Sharon!

:party:

Drinks are on you in April! :party:

dg

[SharonRB]

38. I just hope I'm there in April!

[spooky3]

33. Hahaha! Dan & Keith replaced Huge Head's Atlanta radio show!

[gkhouston]

66. that was perfect!

I've had a crummy day and that was so good, I actually laughed out loud and rewound the tape to watch it again. Everything, from the way Keith says Dan's name, to Dan's picture being three times the size of Keith's to the caption "Dan Patrick & Some Guy" to the "No-Reilly" to the kicker was just :rofl:

And you know O'Reilly's head is exploding over this, which makes it even funnier. :evilgrin:

[ralps]

34. LOL Dan Patrick & Keith Replace Bill O'Reilly!!!!!

:hi: :loveya: :hug: :pals: :woohoo: :toast: :toast: :applause: :applause: :rofl: :rofl: :rofl: :rofl: :rofl:

[Berry Cool]

39. And it's kudos to the staff again for a brilliant musical choice for that:

Ol' Blue Eyes singing "I've Got You Under My Skin"!

O'Lielly's theme song--when it comes to KO!

[Wetzelbill]

70. oh my brother and I nearly died laughing at that

KO's "evil" laugh was hilarious! :)

[RevCheesehead]

72. Hey Bill -

Did you win over your brother? How cool! :bounce::bounce:

[Wetzelbill]

73. yeah he's an old school Sportscenter fan too

he likes Keith too, but he's not quite the devoted political nerd that I am. Once he gets old like me he might get there, haha. He watches the show with me from time to time though.

[Greylyn58]

35. Way to Go Dan Patrick and Keith

Kick out O'Liely!!! :rofl: :rofl: :rofl:

:woohoo: :woohoo: :woohoo: :woohoo: :woohoo:

[Berry Cool]

41. This CBS suit against Howard Stern truly makes no sense.

Keith is right...ESPN and Faux Sports knew better than to keep him on the air after he decided to go/they decided to dump him. They didn't keep him on air so he could rip them up one side and down the other and they could then sue him.

[spooky3]

45. Sounds as though they've been getting advice from BO's lawyer

ask Al Franken how good that guy is.

[ralps]

40. Good Night Everyone, Have a great day tomorrow.

:hi: :loveya: :hug: :pals: :woohoo:

[SharonRB]

43. 'nite, ralps

Sleep well.

[Berry Cool]

44. Nighty-night, ralps.

See you then.

[WolverineDG]

46. Good night, ralps!

you too!

dg

[Greylyn58]

48. Have a pleasant night ralps

Sleep well!!

[spooky3]

49. this (prospective employer) lawyer is an idiot!

[WolverineDG]

51. Nope, sorry

the one waaay out of line is the baby lawyer.

dg

[spooky3]

53. sorry--the facts are on her side

I agree she could have been more tactful and polite but

1) it's not inappropriate to conduct business over the internet
2) legally she is ABSOLUTELY right that they had no contract and neither had any obligations to the other; even if they had a verbal agreement, either could have backed out; it's called "employment at will"; that a lawyer would not know this suggests he is unprofessional AND not very knowledgeable--I suspect he DID know that and is trying to manipulate her and us, and it's not working
3) he insulted her by BEFORE any insults from her were reported--maybe they left her early ones out but in the report he struck first and then was indignant when she responded in kind
4) she's ABSOLUTELY right that he had no business threatening her, especially when she had done nothing wrong other than to make him mad by objecting to the low pay (according to the report)
5) there is NO excuse for his sharing the email exchange with others. Very unprofessional. She's lucky she didn't accept the offer.

[WolverineDG]

59. What he said wasn't a threat

and she's an idiot for taking it that way.

Baby lawyers should not go around being rude, tactless, & pissing off more experienced & established lawyers. Contrary to her belief, she does NOT know everything about the law just because she graduated from law school & got her bar card. What she said about the salary being too low to support her lifestyle was incredibly immature & unprofessional. It really shows how inexperienced she really is. The fact that she's had to strike out on her own speaks volumes as to how she's perceived by the legal community in that area. NO ONE HIRED HER. (oh how the might have fallen--solos don't make shit their first few years, so she's going to have to make some adjustments to her grandiose lifestyle, especially since it's being funded by daddy.)

A verbal agreement CAN be a binding contract if one party has done partial, if not substantial, performance. This attorney can prove that by what he did (ordering business cards & letterhead, getting a computer set up for her). What damages he'll get (if he wants to pursue it) is anyone's guess.

It may come as a big surprise to the layman, but many lawyers still adhere to "my word is my bond." If opposing counsel knows they can't trust you, your practice will be that much more difficult because they will slap you with every kind of discovery & motion just wear you down & run up your bill.

Of course, I don't know anything about this subject.

dg

[gkhouston]

67. I agree that the way she handled the salary negotiating

was completely ridiculous but I have a lot of difficulty believing that he had in fact already ordered business cards, set up a computer, etc., unless they had agreed on a firm start date. I'd love to have been a fly on the wall for some of their communications prior to the email exchanges. I'm thinking that either she verbally agreed to take the job and subsequently decided she should have asked for a higher salary and the, "I said I was interested, I didn't give you an absolute yes" business is a lie or his "but I've already done all these things in preparation for your arrival" is a lie. I doubt she'd be such a valuable catch that he'd feel an inclination to lie about business cards just to pressure her into accepting the job, so I'm guessing that baby lawyer's on the wrong side of this one.

[WolverineDG]

74. Yes, it would be nice to have heard those

early conversations. Having gone through my share of job interviews though, I left the interview knowing I had the job or didn't. An offer was either made, or it wasn't. Pleasantries exchanges, no hard feelings. No one goes around ordering cards & letterhead (if he can prove that he did that) unless an offer has been made & accepted (and you don't need to have it in writing, as anyone who has taken & passed Contracts can tell you).

What she did do though was blow a perfect opportunity. So what if she thought her salary sucked. A good baby lawyer would know that he or she would have to work for peanuts for the first few months, if not year or two. It's not like they don't warn you of this in law school. Salary can always be re-negotiated, and once the lawyer has established his/her reputation in the firm & legal community, he or she can go back & re-negotiate. I've had several friends who are now very successful solos do this very thing. First they start off with a low base salary. Then they can negotiate "salary + 20% of the cases I bring in" & work up from there. Once they have their own little network of clients, they can branch out on their own.

Her comments about the low salary were stupid. However, if she was really as good on paper as she is in her own mind, another firm would have snapped her up. No one did.

dg

[gkhouston]

76. well, you'd think if the salary were egregiously low, even for

new lawyers, the approach would have been to say that the offer is substantially lower than the local going rate (and she'd better be willing to kiss that job goodbye) -- and to do that verbally, where you could feel out the response as you're making the approach. You sure as hell don't make it sound like you're Daddy's lil' rich girl and want to go on living the high life. Still wondering about the business cards, though. On my side of the street, all the real negotiating (offering and accepting) has always been initially done verbally but it's also always immediately followed up by a formal letter for the file, even if that's only a few sentences long. Did she or didn't she send him a letter (electronic or paper) saying she accepted the job? 'Cause if she didn't and she gave her word she was hiring on and then backed out because of $$, she's still a slag, but it makes him a bit of hypocrite for complaining about her being unprofessional about responding via the internet and then going on to say he's already done X, Y, and Z... because if he's going to insist on the formal paper letter first (which would be prudent), he shouldn't have done X, Y, and Z yet, anyway. Okay, my headache is coming back... :crazy:

[Berry Cool]

52. They both sound like idiots.

Anyway, Worst Person in the World! LOL, I just started a thread with a link to the NY Observer article with the truth about Nancy Grace's fiance! Go forth and read After the Show!

[spooky3]

58. I did see it--see my earlier post on your thread!!! Way to go, BB!

[WolverineDG]

50. The first time that baby lawyer goes into court

she's gonna get an ass-whuppin'.

dg

[Berry Cool]

54. Wow. What a great talk with Buck O'Neil.

Even Rita Skeeter complimented him on it!

If only she had taken some NOTES. This, Rita, is how true journalists operate! Think about it!

[gkhouston]

69. it was great

and you could just see Buck making Keith feel better about the whole thing. Which made me understand, even more completely, why Keith was so outraged in the first place. I think KO has got himself a new campaign. :-)

[spooky3]

56. that may be true but note my post above

This has been my professional field for more than 25 years. And while she wasn't charming, from the report (which may have been incomplete or biased), she's in the right.

[gkhouston]

68. did Gidge say what kind of law she'll be practicing?

could be she'll end up writing people's wills. :7

[WolverineDG]

75. My guess is she'll have a door practice

Whatever walks in the door, she'll take. ;) Who knows? She may turn out to be a great attorney, but she needs to work on her professionalism a tad.

dg

[bleever]

55. I love the fact that Keef, all misty-eyed after that great interview

with Buck O'Neil, still referred to the number of days since Mission Accomplished was declared in Iraq.


Okay, fifth time of my posting floaties for Keith: :loveya:

[spooky3]

57. that was nice. And I'm not even a baseball fan!

[bleever]

60. I grew up loving Ernie Banks. The 1969 Cubs are part of my DNA.

I'll never forgive my mother for one thing: Arco gas stations were giving away mugs with the '69 Cubs signatures on them, in four versions.

One day, noticing the toilet wouldn't flush, I opened it up to reconnect the chain to find that my mom had put one of them, the Battery cup, signed by all the pitchers and catchers, in the toilet tank as a weight.


There's a point in every boy's life where he begins to realize that he must move beyond his relationship with his parents, to separate, and become a man. This may have been that moment for me.




ed: sp, clarity

[Berry Cool]

61. Aw, bleev! What a story!

And yes, Keith deserves extra floaties tonight:

:loveya: :loveya: :loveya: :loveya: :loveya: :loveya: :loveya: :loveya: :loveya: :loveya: :loveya: :loveya: :loveya: :loveya: :loveya: :loveya: :loveya: :loveya: :loveya: :loveya: :loveya: :loveya: :loveya: :loveya: :loveya: :loveya: :loveya: :loveya: :loveya: :loveya: :loveya: :loveya:

Keith, what can we do to help you get Buck and Minnie in? Tell us! Your minions await your bidding!

[bleever]

62. AND, it wasn't even the toilet in the full bath!

Also, I think was still called Atlantic Richfield back then. But I stand by my epiphany.

[Wetzelbill]

71. Keith was so choked up at the end he forgot to say "keep your knees loose"

:) That was so touching. Just great.

Damn, I need to get online during the show. Curse my brother for playing Rome Total War!!!!