KOEB 3/31/06 Censure Hearing Edition + Happy Birthday Countdown

[ralps]

:hi: :loveya: :hug: :pals: :woohoo: :party: :party: :toast: :toast: :bounce: :bounce: :applause: :applause:

[bleever]

1. Hi ralps!

Keef's wearing his pistachio candy-cane tie.

:hi:

[ralps]

4. Hi bleever

:hi: :loveya: :hug: :pals: :woohoo:

[Patsy Stone]

13. And his Oompa Loompa tan...

John Dean was great today. I hope you had a chance to hear him. :hi:

[SharonRB]

16. I streamed the whole hearing, but I heard bits and pieces

[Patsy Stone]

20. Did you hear Randi?

She played some good bits. Hi, Shar! Shabbat Shazzam! :hi:

[SharonRB]

24. I only heard a little bit of Randi

The Big Dawg and Ed Schultz are going to be on Larry King tonight. Did I hear Randi say she's going to be on, too?

[ralps]

30. Yes she's going to be on with Ed Schultz & 2 conservatives

:hi: :loveya: :hug: :pals: :woohoo:

[Patsy Stone]

32. I knew about Bill and Ed

because a friend of mine told me, but I didn't hear that part of her show.

[SharonRB]

37. Ed's sub talked about Bill and Ed, but not Randi

But I thought I heard her say something. I'm going to watch instead of Injustice tonight. Should be a good show.

[gkhouston]

21. LOL, I *love* that movie

great role for Gene Wilder.

[Patsy Stone]

26. My friend was lamenting that now that there was a "new" version

the old one would disappear and that her kid would only know the new one. I vowed not to let that happen. :)

[gkhouston]

35. nah, I haven't even seen the new version yet

but I understand it has a very different feel. Truer to the book in some respects, but still quite different. I think Wilder's performance alone will keep the old movie from fading completely from memory. He did such a wonderful job of projecting gentle menace and lunatic competence and all those other oxymorons that * can't make work. :7

[RevCheesehead]

51. I got a copy of that for my birthday from my brother's family.

I think it was so we all had something to watch while they were there. I fell asleep. And whenever I try to watch it, I fall asleep again. It's saving me a fortune in Vicodin!

[Patsy Stone]

55. Nice to see it's good for something

although I do love Johnny Depp. :loveya:

[gkhouston]

57. snort

you should watch the extra features sometime. The interview with Wilder is good.

on edit (oops, wrong version. Never mind!)

[RevCheesehead]

31. LOL

:rofl: That's it!!



:hi:

[Patsy Stone]

34. If only his eyebrows were white...

(sigh)

:hi:, doll!

[gkhouston]

38. give it time, love

I expect he'll still be on the air, and we'll still be watching him, when Time attends to that minor detail.

[WolverineDG]

40. Oompa Loompas scare me

:scared:

dg

[gkhouston]

41. oh, my...

you must be naughtier than I'd realized...

[RevCheesehead]

43. Why - have you been bad?

Are you the gum-chewer, or the spoiled brat? :evilgrin:

[WolverineDG]

No, but I didn't like what they did to the bad kids

:scared:

Nightmares, I tell ya. Nightmares.

dg

[gkhouston]

54. hmm, it never bothered me

how old were you the first time you saw the movie?

[WolverineDG]

72. I can't remember

I saw it at a Saturday morning kid's film festival. Those Oompa Loompas on the big screen? :scared: :scared: :scared:


dg

[Patsy Stone]

53. They were very scary...

and one of them was a woman. :)

http://film.guardian.co.uk/features/featurepages/0,4120,1536978,00.html

[RevCheesehead]

62. How cool is that!

I'm glad she wasn't made into a Oompalette - like Smurfette.

[gkhouston]

64. now *that* would have frightened me

Oompah Loompahs... nah.

[Olney Blue]

52. Hi bleever! How was your week?

[bleever]

74. Not so bad. How about yours?

:hi:

[Olney Blue]

88. I got back from a trip to NYC and took the week off. Nice!

[bleever]

102. Very nice

on both counts. I really enjoyed my recent, very first trip to NYC.

[Olney Blue]

109. My favorite was walking through Central Park at dusk,

and then seeing Strawberry Fields and the Imagine tribute.

I miss John Lennon.

:cry:

[gkhouston]

2. Hey, ralps!

now if they'd been talking about censuring Keef, I bet some folks would have shown up at the hearing...

[ralps]

6. Hi gkhouston

:hi: :loveya: :hug: :pals: :woohoo:

[Patsy Stone]

23. So, after all of that fuss in GD today...

Where were all the Dems on the JC anyhow? I didn't keep reading.

:hi: Nice to see you in real time.

[ralps]

45. Leahy & Feingold were the only Dems to ask any questions

:hi: :loveya: :hug: :pals: :shrug:

[SharonRB]

3. Hi, ralps

[ralps]

9. Hi SharonRB

:hi: :loveya: :hug: :pals: :woohoo:

[Patsy Stone]

5. Very nice photo!

Hi, ralps. Happy Friday. :hi:

[ralps]

11. Hi Patsy, aww shucks thanks

:hi: :loveya: :hug: :pals: :woohoo:

[WestHoustonDem]

7. Hi ralps!

I'm finally getting to watch Countdown. First time this week!

:woohoo: :woohoo: :woohoo: :woohoo: :woohoo: :woohoo: :woohoo: :woohoo: :woohoo: :woohoo: :woohoo: :woohoo:

[ralps]

12. Hi WestHoustonDem, cool

:hi: :loveya: :hug: :pals: :woohoo:

[Patsy Stone]

17. Nice to see you back

I've recently returned from a computer desert myself. :)

[gkhouston]

19. I'm merely watering at the oasis

:hi:

[WestHoustonDem]

29. Thanks Patsy. This is more like a quick check-in.

If I'm really lucky, I'll get to listen to Malloy tonight too.

[Olney Blue]

47. Hi West! It's nice to see you!

[AlCzervik]

8. Hidy ho all, good Friday evening to ya.

:toast:

[ralps]

15. Hi chimpsrsmarter

:hi: :loveya: :hug: :pals: :woohoo:

[Olney Blue]

56. Hi chimps- nice to see you.

[Patsy Stone]

10. So, wait until you see how stupid Lindsay Graham was...

And, nice with Senator Cornyn insulting John Dean.

[SharonRB]

14. Shabbat Shalom, Pats

[gkhouston]

18. Cornyn is certifiable

I would dearly love to see that man replaced with someone who is only half-insane.

[WolverineDG]

44. Cornyn is an ass

He's been at the top of my shit-list since 1997 & the crap speech he gave at my graduation from law school. :grr: :grr: :grr:

dg

[Olney Blue]

61. My sympathies that he gave your graduation speech.

:hug:


What a fricking nighmare.

[WolverineDG]

71. When they announced who the speaker was

I was thrilled. I thought he was great. Then, not 2 sentences into the speech, it dawned on me & the rest of my Democratic-leaning graduates, that all he was doing up there was giving a political speech, bad-mouthing anything considered "liberal" instead of the usual "congratulations, now go get a job & pay back your loans" speech. How DARE he ruin MY (and everyone else's) graduation just to score political points w/the rabid right! :grr: :grr: :grr:

dg

[Berry Cool]

124. You said it. Politicians always ruin graduation speeches.

I consider myself lucky that every time I graduated from anything, the speaker was not a politician and was interesting.

No, wait, actually, the last time, it was Mario Cuomo...and he was good.

[gkhouston]

125. I got the Chancellor of Germany once. He was ok. n/t

[Greylyn58]

22. Howdy Everyone

HAPPY BIRTHDAY Keith!!!! Here's to many more years!! :party: :toast: :party: :toast: :party: :toast:



:hi: to ralps and my fellow KOEBers!! :grouphug:

I'm am so tired of the absolutley repugnant ass-kissing these Repugs do in favor of the pResident's crimes! I can only pray that there is a special place in Hell waiting for them when their time comes.

[ralps]

25. Hi Greylyn58 & Sheridan, Let's hope so

:hi: :loveya: :hug: :pals: :woohoo:

[Olney Blue]

39. It's an especially red area of Hell!

:evilgrin::evilgrin::evilgrin::evilgrin::evilgrin::evilgrin:

[Greylyn58]

69. AMEN!!!

:evilgrin: :evilgrin: :evilgrin:

[RevCheesehead]

27. Hey ralps - nice pic of Keith's wooly caterpillars!!

Hi, everyone! :hi:

Keith: :loveya::loveya::loveya:

[ralps]

33. Hi RevCheesehead, LOL

:hi: :loveya: :hug: :pals: :woohoo:

[Olney Blue]

28. Hi Ralps and everyone!

[ralps]

36. Hi Olney Blue

:hi: :loveya: :hug: :pals: :woohoo:

[Berry Cool]

42. Hi everyone! Happy birthday celebration!

:hi: :party: :loveya: :bounce:

It's going to be a great night!

on edit: Thanks for using that GREAT pic of Keith naked...er, I mean, without glasses. :blush:

And the "Oompa Loompa tan" description is too perfect! :rofl:

[Patsy Stone]

46. Hi, Berry!

I hope they have a good time with it. :party:

[Berry Cool]

48. Shabbat Shalom and Shazam, Patsela and Sharon

and anyone else who's lighting candles and not just for the birthday celebration!

[Berry Cool]

60. It's a party! Have some snacks!!

[Olney Blue]

105. Nice loofah- thanks!

:7

[SharonRB]

108. LOL -- I thought that falafel was meatballs at first

[ralps]

49. Hi BerryBush

:hi: :loveya: :hug: :pals: :woohoo:

[Olney Blue]

50. Hi Berry. Happy Friday.

[Olney Blue]

58. Ugh! That statue of Britney is grotesque.

[gkhouston]

59. is there some statue of her that wouldn't be? n/t

[Olney Blue]

63. LOL. Good point.

[ralps]

65. Oh Please No Not the Britney Sculpture, although Swamp Rat did a beautiful

take off of it with Bush's head coming out of her ass!! LOL Edited to add his photo

:hi: :loveya: :hug: :pals: :woohoo:

[gkhouston]

67. bwah, I'll have to look for that. n/t

[ralps]

70. I've added it to my post

:hi: :loveya: :hug: :pals: :woohoo:

[gkhouston]

79. Thanks! n/t

[Olney Blue]

68. I wish I had seen that!

[bleever]

66. Nice arc.

[Patsy Stone]

78. ?

What arc?

[bleever]

94. Ark. Sorry, I was using the French spelling

by accident.

[Patsy Stone]

103. Okey dokey

For a minute I thought you meant "arch" as in the one in Britney's back on her statue. :)

[bleever]

114. LOL.

I liked that sculptor.

[gkhouston]

118. Thus, we discern

that your bionic eye is still on backorder. :hi:

[bleever]

126. Liked him on TV, that is; wouldn't let him in my house.

He did kinda have that "Hannibal Lecter's quiet brother" vibe.

:hi:

[gkhouston]

130. oh, man, setting off the creepdar of 3/4 of the KOEB

is not a good sign.

[bleever]

146. LOL. I saw on the internets a thing where they ask you to guess

if you're looking at a photo of a serial killer, or a computer language creator.

http://www.malevole.com/mv/misc/killerquiz/

This guy's picture would fit right in.

[gkhouston]

150. yeah, I sent that along to my husband

he did marginally better than I did, but only because he'd met one or two of the guys.

[bleever]

154. I hope you mean programmers.

:scared:




:rofl:

[gkhouston]

157. er, it's hard to tell, sometimes

but yes, I meant the programming language types. They're less weird than mathematicians. At least, I've never known any who walked down a hall with both hands on the wall...

[Patsy Stone]

And some of GD, too. :)

http://www.democraticunderground.com/discuss/duboard.php?az=view_all&address=364x809783

[ralps]

73. LOL Keith ripping on Bill O'Reilly!!!!

:hi: :loveya: :hug: :pals: :woohoo:

[WestHoustonDem]

75. Save the Tapes! Save the Tapes!

Loving it!!!!!!!!!

[Olney Blue]

This segment is great!

Bill O'Lielly redux.

[Greylyn58]

76. GO KEITH GO!!

Give it to the Big Giant Head!!! :evilgrin: :evilgrin: :evilgrin:

Smack him with his own loofa!!!

[RevCheesehead]

77. You know, Countdown really does need to make a DVD....

Kind of a "Best of..." thing, including Loofah King, Hall of Shame, and Best Oddball clips.

[Berry Cool]

181. I agree. Now that they've lasted three years

it's time for a "Best of Countdown" DVD, released perhaps about the same time as the "Worst Person in the World" book.

[SharonRB]

80. Bwaaahaaaaaa

The Ministry of Truth
:rofl:

[Patsy Stone]

81. LOL: It's been quiet over there at the Ministry of Truth... Too quiet!

:rofl:

What is this commercial for Countdown? Are they milking this for everything it's worth, or am I just imagining things? :tinfoilhat:

[WolverineDG]

83. You saw that too?

:rofl:

You're not imagining things, so take off the :tinfoilhat:

:hi: pats!

dg

[Patsy Stone]

112. Whew!

Glad to hear that. :hi:

How's every little thing this evening?

[WolverineDG]

173. hanging in there

hanging in there. :)

So glad it's Friday & pay day!! :bounce: :bounce:

dg

[Patsy Stone]

174. Woo Hoo!

This week took two weeks to go by. Thank goodness it's ovah!

[RevCheesehead]

84. Isn't it great?

:rofl:

[Berry Cool]

87. Oh my God! "Where Is The Love?"

BEST. COUNTDOWN. AD. EVER!!!!!!! :rofl:

[gkhouston]

89. I can't wait to get home and see this

clearly this ad is a keeper.

[Patsy Stone]

110. He knows where to find the love.

Right here:

:loveya::loveya::loveya:

[Berry Cool]

128. You got it!

There can't be enough floaties for Keef tonight!

:loveya: :loveya: :loveya: :loveya: :loveya: :loveya: :loveya: :loveya: :loveya: :loveya: :loveya:

[ralps]

82. LOL Great new Countdown ad with Bill's petition!!!!!

:hi: :loveya: :hug: :pals: :woohoo:

[bunny planet]

85. Hi everybody, I just wanted you all to know that I'm watching every

delicious and informative moment of the Countdown birthday show and I'm loving every everloving minute of it.

I fell down and hit my head in the occupied renovation so I'm watching it from the couch with a bag of frozen edamame on my head.

Love to everybody.

Back to the show.

I just know that statue is Mrs. Federline.
Oy!

[ralps]

93. Hi bunny planet, I hope you feel better soon

:hi: :loveya: :hug: :pals: :hug: :grouphug: :hug:

[gkhouston]

95. I suspect it's Mrs. Federline

question is, which one?

and what is edamame? Some obscure (to me, at least) vegetable?

[SharonRB]

97. Oy, vey -- I hope your head feels better soon

I love edamame, but that's a new use for them.

[Olney Blue]

99. Oh no. Take care of your head.

[Berry Cool]

131. Poor Bun-Bun!

Hope you're feeling bright-eyed and puffy-tailed again soon!

[Greylyn58]

86. What a great new commercial for Keith

LOVE IT!!!!! :woohoo: :woohoo: :woohoo:

[Berry Cool]

98. Oh my God, this sculptor is LOOPY!!!!!

This is the weirdest interview Keith's had to to since the dog psychic!

He's certifiably NUTS!!!!

[WestHoustonDem]

90. Only a 6 month gestatin for the Britney statue.

:puke:

[gkhouston]

101. our suspicions have been confirmed

not homo sapiens sapiens.

[Olney Blue]

91. Caught the "tail end of it"? OMG.

How can Keith not laugh?

[bunny planet]

92. omgawd, he said he 'caught the tail end of it'

You said it banana suit.

[Greylyn58]

96. Hmmm...

I think Keith needs to tread carefully with this guy! I'm getting a serious whack-job vibe from him!!

Or is it just me?

[Berry Cool]

104. No, it is NOT just you! I think Keith and everyone else gets the vibe too

!!!! He's scary!!!! :scared:

LOL, "Neal Boortz--'BOOR' with a TZ!" :rofl:

Go Keith!!! :loveya:

[WolverineDG]

127. I vote for "whack job"

especially for the "a pregnant woman doesn't mean pro-choice." :eyes:

dg

[gkhouston]

132. strange, I thought I was pro-choice when I was pregnant

must have been all the hormones addling my brain. :crazy:

[gkhouston]

179. now that I've seen the segment, I'm wondering if

he's a different kind of "whack job". I think this business about doing the sculpture because everyone was obsessed with Britney's pregnancy and this is her in labor is crap... he was obsessed with pregnant Britney and he's not thinking about imminent childbirth when he looks at that sculpture. If nothing else, that head-down, bottom-up position is supposed to be useful for encouraging the baby to turn head-down before labor begins and it's a good stalling position (a friend used it when one of her children came much faster than expected; it was a matter of postponing the inevitable until the midwife could arrive) but if you're serious about getting the baby out you're not going to push uphill. :crazy:

[Berry Cool]

183. You know, someone pointed out somewhere that Britney actually

supposedly had a C-section because she didn't want to experience the pain of childbirth.

Now what does THAT say about this sculpture?

My understanding is that some people think this guy has ulterior motives--by saying he doesn't have a political agenda and yet acting as if he does, he creates all kinds of antagonism for people who don't like the agenda he appears to have. And THAT, they say, is the true point of his work--to irritate the hell out of people.

I can't imagine why anyone would seriously think Britney Spears had the most anticipated pregnancy in their personal lifetime...unless either they were only about 5 years old, or they personally anticipated it the most because they worship her. Hell, more people anticipated Princess Di's first baby than this one.

[RevCheesehead]

184. followed closely by the spawn of Lisa Marie and MJ.

or Madonna.
or whomever the celeb du jour is.

[gkhouston]

185. I do not for one minute understand these women who are

having C-sections to "avoid the pain of childbirth". My sister had C-sections and I saw up close and personal that it's major abdominal surgery with a long recovery time. As in several weeks. Is facing the certainty of that truly preferable to hours of labor, until you either deliver or dilate to a point where you can opt for anesthesia? I don't think so -- even after experiencing a protracted, not-fun labor.

[Berry Cool]

187. I had a friend who gave birth by C-section

and she was NOT not in pain afterward!

[bunny planet]

100. Jeff Koons of the solid gold Michael Jackson statue and the giant puppy

has nothing on this guy.

[Berry Cool]

133. Hey everybody, you know how at state fairs they have a butter sculpture?

Imagine...

:rofl:

[gkhouston]

138. yeah, I did.

just got my mouth washed out with soap, thanks. ;-)

[ralps]

106. Today's worst person in the world is.... Neil Bortz for saying that

Cynthia McKenny (sp?) "looks like a getto slut" among other things :hi: :loveya: :hug: :pals: :puke:

[gkhouston]

107. yeah, we could see that one coming a mile off. n/t

[CBHagman]

145. That's "boor" with a T and a Z.

Good one, Keith. :rofl:

I also LOOOOOVE those baby pandas. Awwww!

:hi:

[ralps]

111. The Oddball plays of the month!!

:hi: :loveya: :hug: :pals: :woohoo:

[CC]

113. Hey idiot pro life sculpture guy

A woman that chooses to carry a pregnancy to term and welcome a child with love because she has options and can make that choice is NOT an example for pro-life but for pro-choice. /end rant.

Hi all :hi:.

[ralps]

115. Hi CC, Yes it is

:hi: :loveya: :hug: :pals: :woohoo:

[CC]

117. Hi Ralps, And I was just sitting and feasting ,my eyes

on Keith, but could not let that one pass.

[Berry Cool]

135. Yeah, what a moran.

"A pregnant woman is not pro-choice"?

Don't many pregnant women CHOOSE to give birth?

[CC]

149. I would say that it is a choice

for now though in the future it may not be it the wing nuts have their way.

[gkhouston]

155. I've begun to consider sterilization for that very reason. n/t

[CC]

167. You know it is sad to have to think

about permanent measures just in case. Though there is the other side too, a lot of insurance companies won't pay for the wife to get tubes tied but will the husband a vasectomy because the man's is cheaper. Also here a woman cannot get her tubes tied with out hubby's consent. :grr:

[gkhouston]

168. can the husband get a vasectomy without the wife's consent?

Why do I suspect the answer is "yes"?

[CC]

171. Not sure haven't met any men whose wives

were against it but have met quite a few women that were either denied or had to get hubby's to sign the form, one of which wanted her tubes tied after number 6, finally got it done after number 9 and a divorce. Though the ex is stuck with a lot more years and higher child support than he would of been 3 kids early.


Edited to add, I used to be a day care provider and took Purchase of Care (state paid because of low income) and not charge them any more than the state paid so had a waiting list. Came a cross so many just trying to get out or away from a jerk (to be mild) that wouldn't sign anything if it would make her life easier. Upside, love the kids, down side was called in to court way to many times as a witness. Really bad downside, calling the cops to come get a mom and kids because dad was looking for them, then hiding her car somewhere safe.

[gkhouston]

177. yeah, I can believe it

I was a witness in a divorce case some years back and the stuff I heard sitting in the back of the courtroom waiting for our case to be called... truly :grr: and :cry:.

[tatia_s]

180. I had my tubes tied last year with little to no problem

from the doctors or my insurance company. All I had to do was sign a form stating that it was my intent to never have children, and if my opinion changed in the future I would not hold the doctor or the insurance company liable for reversing it. :shrug:

[CC]

182. I was speaking mainly to

what I have seen here. :shrug: Why I said most, though should of said some. I never thought to see if it was law or doctors/hospitals that required spouse signatures to get tubes tied either. Might be a CYA buy the docs/hospitals there but seems to be common in my area. I saw area because I am in a tristate area and each of the 3 closest hospitals are in different states. You got me to thinking about who imposes the restrictions now. Glad you had no problems and they let you decide for your self. It irks me when it seems the powers that be don't believe a women can think for herself and it still happens.
Also things have changed, like insurance prescription plans now having to cover birth control pills if the cover viagra etc. Many here didn't cover birth control pills until forced too.

[gkhouston]

186. it's probably doctor/hospital policy and not the law

my insurance plan has decided they'll no longer cover low-dose BCP, only high-dose ones. Yah, that makes a lot of sense. :eyes:

[SharonRB]

116. I love when Keith says "Internets."

[gkhouston]

121. I like it because I can remember

when there were multiple nets. :D

[SharonRB]

119. Here somes the Big Dawg on Larry King

I'm outta here.

[bleever]

120. Big Dog up on Larry King now.

Looking pretty healthy and strong.

[Patsy Stone]

122. Bill!!!!

:loveya: Bill.

[gkhouston]

123. I long for the days

when our biggest problem was the President's unbridled lust for women. The current President's unsatiable lust for power is proving far more destructive to our country. :scared:

[Patsy Stone]

129. He makes me so happy

and so sad. *sigh*

Today was the first teensy bit of oversight in the past five years. With all of *'s crimes, Graham still said it wasn't worthy of censure, but because Bill lied under oath, impeachment was the right thing to do. :crazy:

ed: clarity

[gkhouston]

134. oh, but Bush didn't KNOW it was illegal

doesn't that mean it WAS illegal. So... anybody think he stopped doing it when he realized it was illegal? Bueller?

[Patsy Stone]

160. Nooo

he just went ahead and made it legal. With three different, increasingly far-fetched, explanations; finally settling on "I've had the power to do this all along. I dare you to tell me I don't. Oy.

[bleever]

136. Replaying the hearings right now on C-Span!

Russ is up.

Need two TVs!

[Patsy Stone]

139. Watch the hearings.

See the idiot Lindsay Graham incorrectly tell John Dean that he went to jail. See John Cornyn tell John Dean that because he's a convicted felon he probably shouldn't be testifying or listened to. Oy.

Bill will be on later. They replay Larry King. Helllllloooooo!

[bleever]

143. "Poughkeepsie! Go ahead!"

Right now: Borrin Hatch.

Can you say "ew"? I knew that you could.

:)

[Patsy Stone]

147. And now: the evil elf, Jeff Sessions

eeeeeEEEEEEEwwww.

[bleever]

151. He just used the word "grevious".

I could just grab that ugly tie and...(breathe, breathe)...I mean, I respectfully find his reasoning unpersuasive in this instance.

[Patsy Stone]

158. Reasoning?

How can you even listen to that voice? I zone.

I go to my happy place and imagine



and

[gkhouston]

162. you left out the baby pandas! n/t

[Patsy Stone]

165. My bad! You're right. :)

[bleever]

163. Arlen says, "Let it all hang out."

After Cornyn insults John Dean.

Classy!

[gkhouston]

164. there are times when I think "best of CSPAN"

should be a reality TV program. I wonder what the average voter would think of their representatives if they knew how they behaved.

[bleever]

170. Cornyn says the hearing is "surreal" and incredibly out of touch

with the public that is 34% committed to this president's vision.

Who's outta touch?

[gkhouston]

178. one might ask

precisely what Cornyn's in touch with... but I suspect it's better not to know.

[Patsy Stone]

166. Watch Bruce Fein

He's so right.

[bleever]

169. Watching.

Arlen's eyebrows are way up.

Fein was very good.

[CBHagman]

175. I call him an elf, too!

It's like some Fractured Fairy Tale on the Hill.





WHY WEREN'T YOU AT ELF PRACTICE?!

[RevCheesehead]

176. Or, perhaps, Henry Gibson?

[gkhouston]

148. I heard about them, but haven't seen them

I so wanted John Dean to say that he went to prison for doing the very things the current administration is doing and that is why his testimony is relevant.

[Patsy Stone]

153. He did say that

but he didn't actually go to prison. He was in the Witness Protection Program for 140ish days, was sentenced to 4 months and they counted that as time served, if I understood it correctly.

He told them off and answered back, but they were sooo arrogant. I'm sure you could stream it on CSPAN, and I'll bet they play them again this weekend.

[gkhouston]

161. somehow, I thought he had gone to a minimum security prison

but it's been so many years, I've probably lost track of who did and did not serve time. He doesn't seem like the type who would gild the lily about that sort of thing. I'll stream it on CSPAN sometime. My disk is dying and I haven't bothered to restore the streaming audio/video since the last disk format. (Long story, but I expect the disk will crap out completely in the near future so there's not much point in recompiling all those packages.)

[Patsy Stone]

172. I've had computer woes myself recently. It sucked.

I understand the reticence of installing all that stuff.

From the Wiki:

Dean pled guilty to obstruction of justice before Watergate trial judge John Sirica on October 19, 1973. He admitted supervising payments of "hush money" to the Watergate burglars, notably E. Howard Hunt, and revealed the existence of Nixon's enemies list. On August 2, 1974, Sirica handed down a sentence of one to four years in a minimum-security prison. However, when Dean surrendered himself as scheduled on September 3, he was diverted to the custody of U.S. Marshals and kept instead at Fort Holabird (near Baltimore, Maryland) in a special "safe house" holding facility primarily used for witnesses against the Mafia. He spent his days in the offices of the Watergate Special Prosecutor and testifying in the trial of Watergate conspirators Mitchell, Haldeman, Ehrlichman, Robert Mardian, and Kenneth Parkinson, which concluded on January 1, 1975. Dean's lawyer moved to have his sentence reduced, and on January 8, Sirica granted the motion, adjusting Dean's sentence to time served.

[SharonRB]

144. What to do, what to do

I think Bill wins out.

[SharonRB]

142. He looks great

I miss him so.

:loveya:

It's so wonderful to hear a (former) president who knows how to string words together to form coherent sentences and thoughts.

[Berry Cool]

152. You mean, you actually PREFER a president who doesn't

bob up and down on the balls of his feet saying, "Well, yeah, you see...the thing is...well, what I'm tryin' to say is, uh...you know...well..."

* always reminds me of a kid in a school play who forgot to memorize his lines, and then the teacher, who is playing the role of prompter, whispers them loudly to him from backstage, and he says "Oh yeah" and repeats her at full volume and tries to look as if he understands what the hell he's saying.

[Berry Cool]

137. Well, it was a fun party.

Guess I have to clean up all the leftover falafels and eat 'em myself. :shrug:

[gkhouston]

140. Don't eat the falafels!!

you never know if Bill's had them. And if he has... oh, let's just not go there. :scared:

[Berry Cool]

156. Better that Bill should have had a falafel

than that he should have had me. :-)

[bleever]

141. I'm flipping back and forth between Clinton and C-Span, replaying

today's hearings.

Extended hours at the KOEB!

[bleever]

159. For the record, saying that "Cornyn is an ass" is

unkind to asses.