US Jews support Israel, don't speak up

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US Jews support Israel, don't speak up

US Jews are strong supporters of Israel but usually tend to refrain from defending Israel publicly. This is one of the main conclusions of a new poll that surveyed the views of American Jews.

The poll was commissioned by The Israel Project, a pro-Israel public advocacy group and was conducted by pollster Frank Luntz.

Among the 800 American Jews that took part in the survey, 82% said they support Israel, most of them characterizing themselves as strong supporters. Analyzing the supporters, Luntz found that backing Israel is stronger among older Jews, among those who belong to the Conservative movement and among Jews who attended Jewish day schools and visited Israel.

While the support for Israel seemed solid, pollster Luntz warned from "disturbing signs that support could shift in the wrong direction". He noted that one in five American Jews does not support Israel in questions concerning its conflict with the Palestinians. "Every day people are dying and in this conflict I would like to see 90% backing Israel", he added.

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Fri Dec-02-05 12:11 PM
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1. Some comments at the Jerusalem Post website on this article.

Either way - it's a conundrum.

I am also betting that many Americans would say you are a traitor. So, why is it so hard for a Jew to know that supporting Israel will be branded a traitor to the "liberal" mindset?

or

I am also betting that many ~~Americans~~ Israelis would say you are a traitor. So, why is it so hard for a Jew to know that ~~supporting~~ not supporting Israel will be branded a traitor to the ~~"liberal"~~ "Israeli" mindset?

1. American "Jews"
Danny - Tel Aviv
12/01/2005 22:55

This is EXACTLY what I meant when I told my American Jewish English teacher that I would trade five hundred American Jews for five American Evangelic Christians on a-n-y given day.

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12. to Danny
A proud American Jew
12/02/2005 05:24

I find it really disturbing that you prefer Christians over your own people, Am Yisrael. As an American Jew who grew up in the south with many evangelistic Jesus freaks, I can tell you for a fact that they have very dangerous alteior motives. They provide most of the funding for deceptive missionary groups like Jews for Jesus (which now even operates in eretz Yisrael). They also believe Jesus won't come back until the Jews move back to Israel, and all who refuse to worship him will perish along with the legions of the antichrist. Millions of Jews have been murdered in Jesus' name and by the symbol of the cross... pogroms, crusades... even the Nazis were Christian, you should know. So be careful what you wish for, and take the quotations away from Jews in your title, it is quite offensive...

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19. Responce to "A proud American Jew"
Danny
12/02/2005 16:42

Why do you find it so peculiar that I prefer Evangelic Christians over American Jews? I have but one concern - to strengthen and bolster my country. All other considerations are completely irrelevant as far as I am concerned. In the end all comes down to one simple fact - the love of American Jews for Israel is conditional. Evangelic's is not. You say they have ulterior motives and that Zionism is not on their repertoire? Why should that concern me? Do Islamo Fascists concern themselves with the fact that classic European anti-Semitism has little to do with their agenda when they promote the Protocols of Zion Elders as best sellers in Egypt and Iran ? If anything, Diaspora Jews are a liability for the Jewish state, as they enjoy a certain statue of "moral authority" while they're bashing Israel at the behest of their anti-Semitic overlords. Jews For Peace, Jews for Palestine, Jews for Justice and etc. "Look at me, I'm a Jew and I say that Israel is an Apartheid state". Peachy.

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A very smart observation. Evangelicals are actually more likely to speak up on behalf of Israel than many in the Jewish community. We should accept our allies where we find them.

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Right on! the older generations of American Jews tended to more or less have a Jewish peoplehood consciousness, although even many of them tended to express it more during periods when Israel was favorably preceived by the general U.S. population. As things stand now though -- and especially in view of trends among youger U.S. Jews --- I'm prepared to write them off, except the manifestly Zionist ones. All the others I simply view as a pool from which to "convert" to Zionism. I also think most liberal American "Jews" are not only bad sons and daughters of the Jewish people, but also bad Americans, what with their being in the lead of various misguided leftist-liberal causes. It's no wonder conservatism is correlated with support for Israel. And Jews who support today's Democratic party are neither good Jews, nor good Americans. Evangelical Christians are far more reliable allies than most of today's post-Modern, post-Jewish, post-patriotic American "Jews"

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AIPAC will be in my town for a big conference this month. I've gone before but I'll never go again and they'll never get another dime from me either since they've dropped singing Hatkivah from their program and refused to have someone representative from YESHA speak when they were in New York with Ariel Sharon. They were fawning all over him since he adopted their liberal attitude about throwing evil right -wing Jews out of Gaza. Obsequious is an understatement. Shameful ...

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