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CubsFan1982 Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sun Mar-13-05 02:17 AM
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New York Daily News: McGwire Juiced
Edited on Sun Mar-13-05 02:23 AM by CubsFan1982
From another thread in LBN:

ANN ARBOR, Mich. - The recipe called for 1/2 cc of testosterone cypionate every three days; one cc of testosterone enanthate per week; equipoise and winstrol v, 1/4 cc every three days, injected into the buttocks, one in one cheek, one in the other.

It was the cocktail of a hardcore steroids user, and it is one of the "arrays," or steroid recipes, Mark McGwire used to become the biggest thing in baseball in the 1990s, sources have told the Daily News.

Long before Jose Canseco claimed he injected McGwire in the behind in his tell-all autobiography "Juiced," the man known as Big Mac denied ever using illegal steroids. But according to FBI sources, McGwire's name came up several times during "Operation Equine," a landmark anabolic steroids investigation that led to 70 trafficking convictions in the early 1990s. No evidence against McGwire or any other steroid user was collected, and one former agent who worked undercover in the case says McGwire was not a target.

But two dealers caught in Operation Equine told the Daily News that a California man named Curtis Wenzlaff provided Canseco and McGwire, among others, with illegal anabolic steroids. One informant in the case says Wenzlaff injected McGwire at a gym in Southern California on several occasions, and established "arrays" of performance-enhancing drugs such as the aforementioned cocktail.

"Curtis was an expert on how to take drugs," one of the informants in the case says. "The West Coast - that was the Mecca of drugs back then. And Curtis was involved with some serious people. Curtis gave me the same cycle that Mark McGwire (allegedly) was on. The best cycle (of steroids) I ever did came from Curtis."

Reached by the News, a former member of the gym where Wenzlaff and McGwire allegedly worked out together - Racquetball World in Fountain Valley, Calif. - said he saw them work out together "maybe five times" and that the two discussed using steroids in his presence.

"No comment," said Wenzlaff when asked to confirm the accounts.

http://www.nydailynews.com/front/breaking_news/story/289502p-247838c.html
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maveric Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sun Mar-13-05 02:42 AM
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1. McGwire,Sosa, Giambi, Palmeiro and especially Bonds should have "*"
asterisks next to their names in all MLB record books.
If Roger Maris had one for 35+ years for putting in an honest season, then these cheaters should one by their name for all eternity.
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KitchenWitch Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sun Mar-13-05 06:57 AM
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2. I totally agree
And the person who was second to Jose Canseco for MVP sould get that award and have it stripped from Canseco.
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maveric Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sun Mar-13-05 03:15 PM
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3. Mike Greenwell of the Boston Red Sox.
He(Greenwell),has been vocal about that too.
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WindRavenX Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sun Mar-13-05 09:01 PM
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5. agreed
In fact, the records of the entire 90's, with time, may be entirely discredited in the future, and rightfully so.
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GOPFighter Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sun Mar-13-05 04:44 PM
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4. I was hoping McGwire was telling the truth...
...about not taking illegal steroids. He seemed like a classy guy.

The funny thing about Bonds is that all of the other players accused of using steroids, including McGwire, have suffered a lot of injuries, which is typical of steroid use, but Bonds has been amazingly injury free. He remains an anomaly and it's sad because even without steroids (if he is in fact guilty) he would have been recognized as one of the very best players EVER. I think it's time baseball got very serious about this NOW, and do whatever it takes to keep baseball drug/steroid free.
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Jersey Devil Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sun Mar-13-05 10:36 PM
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6. Did anyone ever really believe he was better than Ruth, Maris, Mays, Aaron
Robinson, etc., etc., etc?

The record is 60 HRs for almost 34(?) years, then Maris hits 61, no one even comes close to it for another 30+ years and suddenly they are hitting 70 and 75?

They don't deserve an asterisk. They don't deserve mention at all.
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