I am worried about this winter.

[texas1928]

We may have a bad one.

This morning when I was getting out of the car a flock of Canadian Geese flew overhead. This way early for them to be migrating in.

[MuseRider]

1. Huh, that is early.

I will watch for that up here in Kansas and report if I see any. I have not yet but then I have not been looking for that.

[texas1928]

2. Well also we do not normally get cold fronts out of Canada

in July. It is way to early for that too.

[MuseRider]

3. True.

It is a balmy 78 in Kansas right now. Very cool for this time of the year although it is expected to heat back up soon.

[Mutley]

4. I hope we get dumped on.

I mean really buried by snow. I'm not being sarcastic either. I love snow; I hate heat like this where your skin feels all sticky five minutes after you've had a shower.

[texas1928]

5. Well I love snow, but...

I don't want to be dumped on. Just give us 8 to 10 inches once every two weeks.

[Mutley]

6. That would work for me.

I like to get one really big storm every year, though.

[Kolesar]

7. ...and not melt off. I want to do lots of xc skiing

[politicat]

8. Hope so, we need the water.

I'll take a bad winter. We could use 10 inches a week that doesn't melt off in 48 hours.

Geese are a bad indicator around here, though.... the beggars have figured out that this is the Promised Land and they never leave.

Some migrating birds are too smart for their own good.

[redsoxliberal]

9. mixed indications right now

that would tend to indicate a fairly mild winter...
It appears, however, that there will be NO el nino/la nina... and the NAO may be indicating a prolonged period of negative values...
I would guess that it will be a fairly average winter.

[texas1928]

10. Yeah the maps don't show it.

But I look at mother nature too. Geese do not come in this early unless there is a reason. And the crickets are starting to get bad. And it is early for them.

[HeeBGBz]

11. I feel for those with gas heat

They will be in dire straits with the gas prices what they are. My poor sisters!