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IA_Seth Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed May-23-07 10:28 AM
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Surname Lists
I thought this may be helpful. If we all post surnames that we know to be related perhaps we will come across a name that we are familiar with or have in common.

It's worth a shot anyway!

My list:

Freese
Siek
Moomey
Bramble
Winstead
Peyton
Simmons
Hart
Keller
Fox
Winsor
Walker
Couch
Hinz
Lindsey
Needham
Mueller

These are all mainly from my father's side. Anyone that has a name in common or has some info, please PM me!
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iverglas Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed May-23-07 03:57 PM
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1. one suggestion
-- attach some sort of geographical identifier to the surname. Take one that I'm stuck on ... Hill ... common as dirt, especially in the region where my Hill family comes from, and I'm looking for given names that leave me looking for needles in that hill o' dirt.

Herewith, all from before 1900 so as not to name myself outright (not including more unusual surnames of most recent 3 generations, and all in England, and some are collateral, i.e. I'm trying to find descendants of sibings of ancestors, and the surnames are women's husbands' names in some cases):

Craddock - Northamptonshire
Carter - Northamptonshire
Munton - Northamptonshire
Kenney - Northamptonshire
Fallowell/Farrowell - Nottinghamshire
(hoping that my ancestor's unusual name didn't morph into Falwell somewhere down the line ...)
Cooper - Nottinghamshire
Smith - Nottinghamshire
Gasgoine - Nottinghamshire
Shield - Leicestershire
Rushland - Leicestershire
-- if anybody has anything relating to Rushland, I will be everlastingly grateful; my line of that name appears to have died out with the death, in the early 1800s, of the only 2 male offspring of what seems to have been the only remaining male in the previous generation, before said offspring reproduced.
Yalding - Leicestershire
Corner - Leicestershire
Hourd - Lestershire
Strongitharm - Cheshire
Oakes - Cheshire
Hill - Devon, Cornwall, Jersey?
Bond - Cornwall
Sibly - Cornwall
Smith - Cornwall
Dennis - Essex
Page - Essex
Whitbread - Essex
Lincoln - Essex
Carter - Essex
Cheshire - Wales, Lancashire, Cheshire
Roughsedge - Cheshire
Martin - Lancashire
Cowdell - Surrey
Horne - Kent
Ponton - Kent, Wiltshire?
Hankey - Kent
Pollard - Kent

Hell, I've even matched myself there -- Carters and Smiths in two different counties.


Now -- I see Winsor in your list. I have a close friend named Winsor (yes, no "d"), from Newfoundland, not long before that from England -- I believe her father, and at least her grandparents, were from the UK, but I don't know where. Not that it's actually an unusual name, of course -- much like many names one has never heard of, and then finds 1000s of in the old records. Are you all related to Barbara? ;)


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IA_Seth Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed May-23-07 06:23 PM
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2. As a matter of fact..
My Winsor line is descended from George Winsor of Slapton, Devon, England... who migrated to Simcoe, Ontario and then on a whirlwind journey that landed him not more than a few miles from my current home (I didnt know this until just a few months ago!). George would be my G-G-G-G grandfather and his descendants are all over the place, and long distant cousins are still in the UK I believe.

So tell my cousin Barbara I said hi! :P

That said, I see your point. Most of my family I am looking from followed the great migration trail of New England/Pennsylvania/Virginia and then through Ohio, Indiana, Illinois, and Iowa before splitting off.
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iverglas Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed May-23-07 08:01 PM
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4. you silly
Barbara Winsor is the beloved star of stage and screen in England -- she left EastEnders a couple of years ago ... but I get episodes about 2 years behind, so she could be back now. Google her!

I'm not tellin ya my friend's name. ;)

Now, as far as English research, I am the whiz you want. PM me names and details of what you want to know, if you like -- I have access to all Ancestry census and BMD records.

You can do birth-marriage-death stuff for free yourself -- either at www.ancestry.co.uk , which has an arrangement with FreeBMD; it supplies the data, Ancestry allows free access -- or at www.freebmd.org.uk. The fuzzy searches that Ancestry does can be both a help and a hindrance, while with FreeBMD you have to be pretty precise, so I use them both in different ways.

In case you're *truly* clueless ;) -- the UK data comes from the General Registry Office which started keeping central BMD registration info after 1837. The transcriptions are pretty complete up to well into the early 1900s now. They FINALLY got going with the 1850s, which had been a big gaping hole in the data that I needed, and I've recently found a couple of good things.

Also, Ancestry gives easy access to the actual GRO images, so you can browse them or check them to verify that details have been transcribed correctly.

Once you have those details, you apply for a certificate. Birth certificates will tell you parents' names, mrge certs will tell you fathers' names.

I can tell you loads more, but I have to go home and solve another mystery -- Lost!

Oh, I also have access to Ancestry's Cdn records, should you want that, and can direct you to free places for Cdn records as well. But Ireland, that's a black hole. More later.
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iverglas Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu May-24-07 07:49 AM
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6. slapton, eh?
In all the two years I've spent delving around Devonshire records, I have not once encountered Slapton. I see it on a map, though. My Devoners (I have no idea what Devonpeople are called) are from the Plymouth - Devonport - East Stonehouse area.

You say your George emigrated to Simcoe. In the 1851 Cdn census, there is a big whack of Winsors -- looks like the patriarch Stephen and some sons and their families, farming -- in Pickering, which is maybe 150 miles northeast of Simcoe, near Toronto. I was thinking *Lake* Simcoe, north of Toronto, at first, and was going to ask whether he was one of the half-pay (retired) officers who settled on the lake in the first half of the 1800s before realizing they'd been given rocks to farm. I suspect he came earlier, when it was easier to get prime farm land in southwestern Ontario.

We got a couple of Winsor marriages in Simcoe in the period covered by the records available:

Walter Winsor abt 1889 28 Dec 1921 Williametta Miller, Simcoe
-- born in Pendleton Ont, nowhere near Simcoe, son of William Winsor and Margaret Nuth
Wm Henry Winsor abt 1886 Feb 1915 Jane Hales, Simcoe
-- other info on record completely illegible, at least on line

No births or deaths that look likely, though. (Marriages are available post 1857, births and deaths post 1859.) Did any of yours stay behind when your George crossed the border? I'm assuming he was born in the early 1800s. In the UK censuses 1841-1901 there are 80 or 90 George Winsor entries in Devon, some of whom are of course a single person over several decades. No Winsors living/born in Slapton in any UK census that I can see, so yours may have been gone by 1841.

Let me know if there's anything I can dig out for you!

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IA_Seth Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu May-24-07 01:02 PM
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8. Ok, let's talk Plymouth!
I do have one family line from Plymouth, Devon as well:

Mary Couch, b 1797 Plymouth Devon. Mary was the daughter of William Couch and Mary Cole. Mary Couch died in Linn Co, IA in 1860. This info was provided by an unverified website, and I'd love to have some confirmation or some info on her parent's line.

Regarding Slapton:

My George Winsor was born abt 1796 in Slapton, had emigratd to Simcoe, Ontario by 1835, and had crossed over and was living in Illinois by 1850. He may or may not be related to the wave of Winsors you found, I dont have anything verifiable prior to him.

I have down that George Winsor married the previously mentioned Mary Couch on May 09 1819 in Parish Church of Stoke Fleming, Devon, Eng. I don't enough about England!
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iverglas Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu May-24-07 02:53 PM
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11. so look who's in Plymouth in 1841

Mary A Couch 56
Wm Couch 57

Not that Couch, William and Mary are exactly unusual names -- but a William and Mary Couch born in 1784 and 1785 might be just the ticket. The exact ages are unusual -- the instructions in the 1841 census were to round ages down to the nearest 5, so they should both have been 55. The tendency seems to have been to understate ages, so if they were young when they married ...

They're in St Andrew, which is what Plymouth was called for most of the 19th century.

She was born in Devon, he was born out of county -- the 1841 didn't specify which. He was "Ind" -- I'm not totally sure whether that's "independently wealthy" or "self-employed", I think the latter usually, although I'm not sure whether it should have shown an occupation, e.g. farmer, joiner. He was probably from Cornwall; there was no distinction between the two sides of the river and my own people crossed back and forth several times.

The Mary and John May living with them with kids, aged 30, would presumably be a daughter and son-in-law.

Your George seems to have done a damned fine job of evading every form of record-keeping. Left England just before the first usable census (1841), left Canada just before the first census (1851), and of course was married and born before central record-keeping.

There are also a William and Mary of a somewhat more suitable age, 65, but they're in Newton Abbot, nowhere near Plymouth.

In 1851, this would be the same Wiliam as that first one:

William Couch
born abt 1782, St Johns, Cornwall (a little better age than in the 1841)
Head
Plymouth St Andrew, Devon

Mary Couch May
born abt 1838, Plymouth, Devon, England
Granddaughter
Plymouth St Andrew, Devon

Ancestry has cleverly mistranscribed her as Mary Couch Mary. William is widowed, "proprietor of houses, retired boot shoe maker". Was your Mary Couch Jr. from a relatively well off family do you think?

FHonline has:

William COUCH found in Cornwall Baptism Index
9 entries in Cornwall between 1779 and 1785
details £0.63 or list places £0.50
(You'd likely want older, unless the couple I've identified were in fact yours)

William COUCH found in Cornwall Marriage Index
4 entries in Cornwall between 1796 and 1798
details £0.24

Mary COLE found in Cornwall Marriage Index
1 entry in Cornwall during 1790
details £0.06

No match for a marriage 1790-1800. Your William and Mary probably married in Devon, even if he was from Cornwall -- the movement was mainly from the less developed Cornwall to the more urban part of Devon across the river. And FHonline has shit for Devon records.

Now, you never know:

Mary COUCH found in Cornwall Baptism Index
2 entries in Cornwall between 1796 and 1798
details £0.14

-- your 1797 Mary could actually have been born in Cornwall. The St Stephens / Saltash / Bodmin area had a lot of exchange with the Devonport / Plymouth / Stonehouse area.

At GenesReunited, there are 23 William Couch-s born in Cornwall 1759-1779 in people's trees (some of them the same WC, of course). For Devon, only two. It seems that Couch is more a Cornish name.

Go join. www.genesreunited.co.uk
Cheap. You put people in your own family tree, a hugely annoying process, and you search for your people in other people's family trees (which you can do once you've joined without making your own tree) -- you can't see the tree, just the results for who has someone in his/her tree -- and then you contact them and ask for info to see whether you have a match, and hope that they have done all the work already.

There are also a fair number of Mary Coles born in Devon in that time period, a couple specifically in Plymouth. But lookie here:

Mary Cole 1862 Slapton, Devon, England
-- interesting. Two people have her in trees. Could be the mother of your Mary Couch? Or even grandmother -- a 35 yr age difference cuts it a little tight. Oh all right, if you ask nicely, I can contact them for you.

In fact ... there are pages and pages of Coles from Slapton in people's trees, going back to Samson (a fine Devon/Cornwall name) born in 1674. There are a couple of people with a Mary May born in an unspecified place in Devon in 1837, too. (That Mary's dob is 1838 in the 1851 census, but the estimated date is commonly a year late, even if nobody's fudging, because the census was early in the year.)

Nobody has Winsors from Slapton. There are Winsors born in Plymouth going back to 1800, and a Daniel born 1815 in St Andrew. There's a Mary Couch born 1794 in Brixham, not far from Slapton and maybe its registry district, in 5 people's trees. Often, the ancestors of people at GR were siblings of some of the people in their trees, so they don't have spouses and descendants in their trees for the long-ago siblings -- i.e. even if someone has Mary Couch but not George Winsor, e.g., it could still be your Mary Couch. Especially if she went wandering off the edge of the earth way back when.


Nobody will ever let me get any work done ... Anyhow, tell me what you think, and anything else you think might be a breadcrumb on the trail.


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IA_Seth Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed May-23-07 06:27 PM
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3. Oh, and a question!
Are you at all familiar with researching family lines in England/Ireland? I haven't a clue really.

My Peyton line has long been in the US (some of the original settlers of Virginia), but prior to coming here they were of English stock...google Peytons of Virgina or Peyton Hall and you'll see them. I know there is a family church in Isleham?

All of this of course was just handed to me. Now that I have a line in Ireland (Fox no less) and a line in England (Winsor) to research I am left clueless.

Thanks for your help!
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fudge stripe cookays Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu May-24-07 04:41 AM
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5. Good idea!
Let's see:

Smith (he he he) (Tompkins County, NY/Rock County, WI, Minneapolis, Alberta, Snohomish Co., WA)
Benedict (Rock County, WI)
Tiearney (BC, WA)
Webster (MN/Orange Co. CA)
Davison/Davidson (Rock County, WI/Colorado)
Giles (Rock County, WI)
Gates (Rock County, WI/Colorado)
Stadig (Benson Co., ND)
Sears (Benson Co., ND/Alberta)
Page (Rock County, WI)
Lonergan (Racine Co, WI)
Bonig (Western MD)
Baldwin (WI, Western MD)
Taylor (WI/Three Rivers, MI/Pittsburgh, PA)

Those are the biggies. There are more, but I just woke up. I'm on a research trip, and have been going going going since I got here!

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fudge stripe cookays Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Mon Jul-02-07 03:48 PM
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42. I have some additions from my trip to NY....
Found a bunch more lines! :D

All of these started around Tompkins County, NY and although most stayed close, some branched out to other areas in the state:

Armstrong (around Trumansburg, NY)
Bullivant
Vann
Horton
Dean
Burt (Buffalo- co-owned the Burt & Sindele Confectionary)
Weaver (Tioga Co, PA, Vancouver, WA and Tompkins Co, NY)
Starr
Hedden (Ithaca to Idaho)
Seabold (line which eventually ended up in Oregon, and from whom Susan Seaforth Hayes of "Days of Our Lives" fame is derived)
McCain (ended up in Butler Co., PA)
Bishop (also ended up in Butler Co., PA)

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iverglas Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu May-24-07 10:28 AM
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7. since y'all are so thoroughly yankified ...
One US line that I am presumably connected with is Littlers -- Quaker Littlers are well documented in the old colonies, and their descent from a 1605 Samuel Littler in Cheshire is equally well documented. That line, from that Samuel, is the Littler "main line". The one I'm connected with, originating a few miles away from him a couple of generations later, is presumed to come from that 1605 Samuel or one of his siblings or ancestors, but no one yet has figured out how or where.

I did undertake some casual research for a US Littler a couple of months ago, and starting with info about her great-grandfather in the late 19th century, identified the missing link -- her great-grandfather's grandfather, I believe it was, whom I identified and whose descent from the Quaker Samuel (born in Cheshire in 1665, emigrated to the colonies with 2 brothers) I figured out. So if anybody wants info about the Littlers way back, ask and I'll tell! A starter is here:

http://freepages.genealogy.rootsweb.com/~jrichmon/qkrcoll/ltlr0771.htm

My pseudo-cousin in the US comes from Samuel's son John who married Mary Ross, and then their son John Ross Littler, and his son John Littler. Several of the lines from Samuel (which include marriages with other well-documented Quaker families in the early generations) have been researched by active descendants, but the history had long been lost to the US Littler I was in touch with.

A while ago I asked a buddy of mine in the US who occasionally posts at DU to tell me what she knew of her family history, and she gave me what turned out to be a completely off the wall tale of how her great-great-grandfather had emigrated to the US by pretending to be someone else's son and adopting their surname. In fact, she is descended from an early Markham (name became Marcum in the colonies) who was in the Revolutionary War -- again, lots of lines are well documented, hers had just got lost.

It turns out that both of these women qualify for membership in the DAR. I'll bet a lot of people do and don't know it. I think somebody should engineer a left-wing coup. ;)

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IA_Seth Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu May-24-07 01:08 PM
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9. Name Changes...
Edited on Thu May-24-07 01:08 PM by IA_Seth
Funny, that is the family story of my Moomey line as well. I dont have the dates here, but story goes that 4 Mumme brothers had come to America prior to either the Revolution or War of 1812. The father of these four lads was in England and in the military. When hostilities broke the 4 brothers joined the side of the US and the father disowned them. Having been disowned they changed the spelling to Moomey and cut off all ties with the Mumme family.

That's the story anyway. I have not a shred of evidence to prove it...although finding any Moomeys outside of the US is damn near impossible.

Oh, lest I forget, the other branch of the family believes that we are of German descent and that the first Moomey was a German Mumme or Mumma or some such. Either way once outside of the US I am fairly lost!
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iverglas Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu May-24-07 03:26 PM
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12. wellll
Edited on Thu May-24-07 03:27 PM by iverglas
I think that illiteracy is the usual explanation. ;)

Markham is actually pronounced Marcum, fr instance, so it's no surprise that someone cut off from the mother land, and his/her friends and neighbours and enumerators in the new world, without any written records to guide them (like parish baptisms and marriages and the parish clerks who kept the records), would just spell it the way it sounded.

I'd go with the German Mumme theory, myself. Spelled as she was slightly anglicized when pronounced. Anyone you know here? --

http://freepages.genealogy.rootsweb.com/~chousmith/index.html


Oops, peekaboo, I think I see you on a genealogy site. ;) My lips are sealed.

I have an ancestor with a relatively uncommon name, apparently an anglicized version (translation, actually) of the French name of one of William the Conqueror's companions. He's the one who wasn't born with that name, and I don't know how/why he acquired it. But there's someone in Ontario with the exact same given name & surname, and lots of people descended from him are into genealogy -- and he had descendants in the same tiny town in Ontario where my ancestor emigrated to from England. It was all very coincidental ... until I dug and dug around in the Ontario records on line, and finally found the one establishing that the doppelganger was from Germany, and the surname was, in his case, a German name anglicized to a good aristocratic English name.

There are a load of them in the US too -- the anglicized Germans with the name or one of its variants -- which is why I haven't bothered with the DNA testing stuff yet, since I know quite well that they're not remotely related to my bunch, even if my bunch really have some claim to the name. But some day I will indeed get around to forking out the money and have my uncle and a pedigreed member of the clan in England, who has volunteered, spit on a stick for comparison. This is one case in which the DNA stuff could be really useful for personal research, and I've just been too lazy to do it.


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IA_Seth Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu May-24-07 03:51 PM
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13. Boy, I thought I slacked at work...
Ha ha.

Seriously though, your other post about overwhelmed me! Thanks for looking into so much so quickly. It will probably take me a few days to soak it all in... I have so many lines all going at once. I started to look here at work and I found conflicting 'records' (I hate that). I had said earlier that it was William Couch and Mary Cole. That came from a user-generated family tree. I also have another user-made tree saying it was William Couch and Mary Hawkins. I dunno.

I should probably just concentrate on one and then move to the next!

I also share an ancestor story related to William the Conquerer....William Mallet, who's descendants changed their surname to Peyton (and held Peyton Hall). These Peyton's are a relatively well-researched lot, with the "Peytons of Virginia" being amongst them. They are the ones with the church in Isleham (pictures are on the web). That is one line I am confident of.

Oh, and yeah I am not too hard to find based on my name queries and my screen-name am I? Oh well, I've had contact info out on genealogy sites for years and I've been alright!
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iverglas Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu May-24-07 04:45 PM
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15. aha


Aha, I see the user-generated family tree, claiming actual records from Slapton re George's baptism. Odd they didn't give a mother's first name; they ordinarily do. He has Mary Cole christened 1761, William Crouch 1756, so my guesses would be completely off.

Speaking of phonetic spellings -- in 1901, there is an Ellen Winzer born in Slapton ... but her husband Thomas, to whom the name belonged, was born in South Milton (perhaps Molton).

There really are a mess o' Coles in/from Slapton in the UK censuses, though. And not a single Hawkins.

Here's one in Newton Abbot for you though:

Name: Admonshing Hawkins
Spouse: Robert

And that is indeed what it says, although I suspect there's an "i" missing. Imagine having a spouse named "Admonishing".

My two favourite mistranscriptions over at Ancestry are:

Francis Pukes
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wait for it
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Mercy Fucker.

Nimrod Squelch, he was the real thing.

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IA_Seth Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu May-24-07 04:56 PM
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16. Mercy Fucker
Now THAT is a name!

Thanks for all of your help...although I don't know if you've just proven how abso-freakin-lutely frustrating this whole mess can be or have given me clues!

I've often thought it would be easier to pay someone else to do all of this for me, but I imagine it would cost a small fortune.
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iverglas Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu May-24-07 06:39 PM
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17. it probably would cost a small fortune

and me, I wouldn't rely on somebody else's research anyhow. Years ago, a cousin of my mum paid a genealogist in England to look into that mystery ancestor of mine. She came back with the report that he might have been born in Cornwall ... or Ireland ... or Germany. Well, duh. On the 1901 census he said he was born in Cornwall, although she might not have had access to that yet; in the 1881 census someone who I think is him, with a variant spelling of the name, said he was born in Cornwall, and that's probably who she found. And the name, in the aristocratic and some other branches, is solidly connected with Ireland; everybody knows that. And it is also an anglicized version of a couple of German names. Yes. Many thanks for that, eh?

The best thing is to find someone in the UK who is related and has done all the work him/herself. That's how I know who my grx8 grandparents in one line are: because another grx8 grandchild told me. ;)
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Cybergata Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Mon Jun-04-07 04:28 PM
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25. I had to check this out, and you are correct, there are 2!
One in the English 1861 Census and one in the 1900 U.S. Census for Utah. There are probably many Fuckers still living in the United States today. I wonder if you'd get in trouble in class if you told your middle school teacher your name was Fucker! <hee hee> Ima Fucker, Ewe A. Fucker II! Oh this amuses me way too much. I guess it is my fate to have a middle school mentality all my life since I've been teaching there for the past 32 years.
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CBHagman Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed Jun-06-07 01:18 PM
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26. My family gets mistranscribed all the time!
In WPA transcriptions of the Census, EllisIsland.org renderings of the ship manifests, and even at Heritage Quest, where my great-grandfather Stephen was recorded as "Stone" (like a soap opera hero or something) in one Census entry, probably 1920. I checked the original record and it looks as though the Census taker wrote "Steve."
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iverglas Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed Jun-06-07 07:04 PM
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27. and speaking of Ancestry - have we all seen the new ads?
Flash ads on every page, a new feature in the last week for us paying customers. I tried changing settings in IE to ban flash (since I only use it for Ancestry, which won't show census images in Firefox, and GenesReunited, which crashes Firefox and also has stinking flash ads) ... but then I can't see the census images. Most fun is that since I subscribe through the .co.uk portal, I get ads for things I can't even buy. I'm pretty sure the one from Vodaphone will instigate epileptic seizures.

The Wal-Mart of genealogy. Monopolize the market, then exploit the hell out of it.

I think when I get a minute I'll start a thread for tips and problems with the Mormon Megacorp ...


Meanwhile, back at the mistranscriptions -- I've discovered that just when you thought your name of interest was the most mistranscribed in the databases, there's always one more that's worse! I gotta say, though, my mother's surname is one of the absolute worst. How many ways can "onc" in the middle of a name be mistranscribed?? Well, there ouc ... and ona, and one, and ore, and oric, and orc ... oh, and arc, and anc ... and I'm not making them up. And of course when the error occurs in the first three letters, wild cards don't work, so you just have to dream up all the possibilities yourself.

Speaking of obscenities, though, my gr-grfather's sister's husband apparently changed his name when he remarried (although he never actually seems to have remarried) and reverted back to his own made-up version of his family's name, before they left Scotland and anglicized it. Hypothetically, Dick. You try googling for McDick.

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CBHagman Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu Jun-07-07 08:29 AM
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28. "You try Googling for..."
Thanks! I almost snorted coffee over my keyboard! :rofl:
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iverglas Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue Mar-11-08 02:31 PM
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52. then you'll like this one

Courtesy of the IGI.



HANNAH BIGG COCK
Christening:
16 APR 1797 West Wycombe, Buckingham, England
Parents:
Father: THOMAS COCK
Mother: MARY
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kdmorris Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sun Aug-26-07 01:31 PM
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43. "Ancestry, which won't show census images in Firefox"
It works on mine. And I have Ad Blocker on my Firefox so I don't have to see all the new ads, either.

I wonder why it doesn't show them for you?
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iverglas Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Mon Aug-27-07 08:58 AM
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44. well it does now ;)
It may be because I hadn't installed the latest version despite incessant nagging from Firefox ...

At the dot ca site, some records are viewed with adobe acrobat, and *they* won't load for me from IE. Aargh! No idea why. So I just copy the url and go to a firefox window and view them there with the foxit thing I've installed.

I guess I should get this Ad Blocker thing, and wonder why I don't have it. No Flash is working very well in IE, and I still recommend that for using IE.

Maybe I'll do that now. I'm fixing to do a reboot, so now might be the time, and just switch to Firefox for all Ancestry stuff. I play genealogy instead of solitaire when I want a break from work, so I have a whole tray of Ancestry UK windows open all the time (one for each census year, etc.). It would be really convenient to have some of them in tabs. I just tried the tab setup in Firefox a few weeks ago, and became immediately addicted. I sometimes have 40 or more windows open for something I'm working on for actual work, which is research-intensive, and before tabs I would just get to the point where things would just get lost in the crowd. ;) So I'd open another copy of the same page ...

I'm not sure whether I mentioned, but I figured out that the dot co dot uk Ancestry site is orders of magnitude worse than the dot com site when it comes to the ads. Advertisers in the UK seem to be exploiting technology in much more annoying ways than in North America. If you ever watch Premier League soccer, you'll see what I mean -- the flashing ads on the boards all around the playing field are so bad that if I were a player I'd demand that they be eliminated in my next contract.

What they don't seem to have perfected is that gearing the ads to your IP address thing (the way DU's google-produced ads are -- I see Canadian ads here). Assaulting me with ads for cell phone service and home insurance in the UK isn't even smart.

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kdmorris Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Mon Aug-27-07 09:58 AM
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45. Oh, good!!
I don't have any idea how I'd do genealogy without tabs. Lately, I've been a little too busy to work with it, but when I'm hunting someone down, I need a tab for everything.. census records, county information (I've not made it out of the country yet. So far, all my ancestors were either already here (and the Native Americans didn't really keep records) or they showed up back in the 1700's. You'd think I could find just one that didn't come over before we were a country, but I haven't found one yet.

Yeah, I imagine you aren't much in the market for homeowners insurance in the UK, LOL
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iverglas Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu May-24-07 04:05 PM
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14. go here:
http://www.freebmd.org.uk

click search, then search for "all types" - surname "mumme" -- no other details (dates, names, places, etc.)

The first one on the list is an 1853 marriage in Stepney (London):

MUMME Chrisstian
and one of:
REDHEAD Jannet Sophia
RYAN Johanna

Mr. Mumme looks like a recent import.

Yuppers. Here he is in 1871, e.g.:

Name: Christian Mumme
Spouse: Johana
Birth: abt 1825 - Germany
Residence: 1871 - St George in The East, London, England

And likely a brother:

Name: Charles Mumme
Birth: abt 1826 - Germany
Residence: 1871 - St Pancras, London, England

However -- there are also a whole load of them in the Scottish censuses, not born in Germany; no way of knowing whether those are mistranscriptions, since Ancestry doesn't offer images for Scotland. And the odd one in other years here and there in England, with birthdates in England in the early 1800s. ... Well, I checked one household at random, and the name is actually written out for all members (not just "ditto"ed), and it goes M...bumpbumpbumpbump...e/l, and lord knows what it says. Too many bumps for Mumme, though. It would add up to Mumimel. Maybe all the English Mummes are just mistranscriptions. ... Yeah, here we go, one of them matches a Murrell born same year/place. Enumerator just went nuts with the bumps.

But y'know what? There are indeed Moomeys in the UK census. Mostly in Scotland, again, nothing to check against, and a few in England, mainly with Irish roots. ... Well, one of them's illegible and might just as easily be Morney ... and another batch is definitely Marney ... so I'd bet they're all fakes too.

The FreeBMD transcriptions of the GRO indexes, which are done by volunteers, are considerably more reliable than Ancestry's census transcriptions, although by no means perfect. Names, those they tend to get righter than other details, since they're copying from a list that is in alphabetical order. ;)


Jeez I hate Ancestry. Why would anyone transcribe a place of birth as "Menehenter, Lancashire"? Is "Manchester" not the bloody obvious reading? One theory is that the transcribing is done in India, but I think Provo, Utah is just as good an explanation ...

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CBHagman Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu May-24-07 01:38 PM
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10. I'll play.
I'm listing alternative spellings in some cases. Such is record-keeping. :-(

Hagman
Nilsson/Nelson

Beckett/Becket
McCloskey/McCluskey
Duggan/Dugan
Devitt

Babis/Babish
Wiener
Engelhart
Kababik

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sybylla Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri May-25-07 08:13 PM
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18. Whoa, you don't know what you're asking
I have a seven generation chart about half-filled in but those I do have go back more like 10-20 generations. I'll stick with the more recent

Blum/Bloom - Switzerland to WI
Blumer - Switzerland to WI
Baumgartner - Switzerland to WI
Kubly - Switzerland to WI
Wyss/Weiss - Switzerland to WI
Feller - Switzerland to WI
Fiechter - Switzerland to WI
Knodel - Germany to OH to WI to KS
Feihle - Germany to OH
Uber - East Prussia/Poland to WI
Zeiske - East Prussia/Poland to WI
Hus/Millet/Paul/Cournoyer - France to Canada to WI
Rivest/Rivers - France to Canada to WI
Simon - France to Canada
Beaupre - France to Canada
Pichet - France to Canada
Goulet - France to Canada
Duhamel - France to Canada
Enaud - France to Canada
Wilcott/Wolcott/Woolcoot/Walcott - CT to VT to Canada to WI
Griffin - CT to VT
Bowers - NY
Burgess - NY
Money - NY
Frost - NY
Huttleston - NY
Hendrickson - NY
King - MA to NY
Remington - NY
Quick - PA to NY
Terwilliger - NY


My dead-ends:
Rose Osceola Purdy - reportedly of the Iroquois Nation, was living with a Mabel and Henry Baker in 1900 in upstate NY. Presumably adopted.
Sarah Avery - born 1814, possibly NY or VT.
Louisa L. Jones - married 1841 to Thomas Burgess in NY.
Julia Parks - married about 1865 to Matthew Burgess in NY.
Anna E. Palmer - b. 1854, married Myrtle Benjamin King in NY.
Libby Figary - b. about 1865 in Chenango County, NY. Oscar and Stephen possible fathers - likely appears in census as Elisabeth
Ellen Hale - b. 1863, 2nd marriage to James Hendrickson in NY
Adaline E. Allen - b. 1817, married Henry Dwight King in NY
Minnie Schuler b. 9/24/1870 in Switzerland, known to have been adopted by Heinrich Schuler and Barbara Schindler in WI

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Cybergata Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri Jun-01-07 01:16 PM
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20. Blumes from Switzerland
I have a Blume line on my maternal grandfather's side. I've only been able to trace the family back to Fredrick Blume who was born in Pennsylvania, moved to Virginia and died in Indiana. I just ran into a cousin on line who passed on some information about Fredrick. I at a brick wall with Fredrick, but I've found related members of my Blume family that were Swiss and German Mennonites who migrated first to Pennsylvania, then to Virginia, next to Indiana, and some went on to Nebraska, where my mother was born. I wonder if your Blum/Bloom ancestors were connected to Fredrick Blume? Fredrick was married to a woman named Sarah Link.


I also have the Wolcotts of Connecticut. My last Wolcott is Mary Wolcott who migrated to the Americas with her father Henry, and married immigrant Matthew Griswold. I just recently found this line, which was pretty exciting.
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sybylla Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri Jun-01-07 03:36 PM
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22. My Wolcott line goes back to Abner
a loyalist in the Revolution. Published histories of the Wolcott family had him descended from Joseph Wolcott and Content Blakely, but the Wolcott Association (online as http://www.wolcottfamily.com/index.html ) believes he is descended from the Wolcotts in Pennsylvania and not the Connecticut Wolcotts despite the fact that he was married in Connecticut. At this point, the rest is up in the air until more concrete proof arises.

As for the Blum/Blume family connections. It's possible he's a cousin but more than that I cannot say. I have two lines of Blums. Both came to Wisconsin in the middle 1800's. One I have traced back as far as Johann Jacob Blum born in 1762 in Bilten, Glarus, Switzerland who married Anna Schiess about 1785. The other I have back as far as Johann Peter Blum who married Sara Zweifel probably in Bilten, Glarus, Switzerland c.1798. And all of that came from documents someone else secured from Switzerland.

Otherwise, Bilten, Glarus might be a place for you to start. Keep in mind, though, that many of the Amish and Mennonite families ended up in Russia for a period of time before they came to the US. There may be other cities in Switzerland your Blume family came from as well. There's a lot of preliminary information you can find at this website: http://history.swissroots.org/heritage.0.html

I was just at that website two days ago looking at their Swiss Surname Encylcopedia where they list family names and the cities in Switzerland where the family has been found historically. They also have some genealogies online. If you have enough information on him and some of his family, a search of the information there might turn up that clue you need.

You should also know that I went to school with a Blume who was German, not Swiss. You've already mentioned the possiblity of a German Mennonite heritage, though changes in the spelling of names was so common that the spelling may not hold any clues at all to origin. Either way, it sounds like you may need a lot more information before you can jump the pond on Frederick. You've probably already discovered that Blume/Blum is almost as bad as Smith in German/Swiss genealogy.
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Cybergata Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri Jun-01-07 06:01 PM
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23. Thanks for the links and great suggestions.
I think this Blume was actually a German Lutheran, not a a Swiss Mennonite, but many of the families I've found who connect with my Blair line were at one time or an other. I'm finding that most of these ancestors came form around the Bavarian part of German or started out in Switzerland. The religious persecution these people faced must have been horrific for them to leave such a beautiful place. I just recently stumbled upon this part of my ancestry. It was a big surprise to me. A delightful surprise at that.

In New Mexico, our Smith or Blume, is Baca. Lopez would seem like it is not far behind, but it isn't as prevalent in the areas south of Santa Fe (called the Río Abajo) where most of my Hispanic family lived since before the Pueblo Revolt of 1680. In Spain it is the 3rd most common surname.

Thanks again, I'll check out your links.
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sybylla Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sat Jun-02-07 03:46 PM
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24. I have one more tip for you
I get the Prussia-Roots list from RootsWeb in digest mode and the following post appeared there today.

This site is maintained by Adalbert Geortz, very knowledgeable of Mennonite
issues in East and West Prussia:
http://www.grex.org/~goertz/




Thought you might want to check it out.
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NOLALady Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue May-29-07 11:02 PM
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19. My List as follows
ANDERSON...Madagascar to TN to Louisiana
AUBUCHON/OBICHON...France to Canada to Missouri to LA

BEECKER...Baden Prussia to Louisiana
BROWN....Louisiana (St James and Ascension Parishes)
BERNARD...Switzerland to PA to Louisiana

CAMPLAIR...Germany/Switzerland to PA to Louisiana
CARR......Mississippi/Louisiana

DATCHURUT...France to West Indies/Louisiana to Missouri
Delaunaise...France/Canada/Missouri

GAREAU...La Rochelle, France to San Domingo to Louisiana (possibly Canada before San Domingo)
GOSSIN...Germany/Switzerland to Pennsylvania to Louisiana

HONORE...Louisiana
HARPER...MS/LA

LeBLANC...Louisiana
LINTON...Louisiana (St James/Ascension PH.)
LOGWOOD...VA./ Alabama/ Louisiana
LILLY.....Alabama/Louisiana

MONDE....France to San Domingo/Cuba to Louisiana
MORNET...France to Louisiana

NADEAU/NITE/NEAT...France to Canada to Louisiana

PELISSIER...Louisiana

TASSIN/TOUSSAINT..Louisiana (St James/Ascension PH)
TAYLOR...VA/LA
TRIPPE...Native, GA/Alabama


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Cybergata Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri Jun-01-07 01:59 PM
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21. Great Idea!
I'm not going to list all the names I have, since I inherited my grandmother's purtian ancestry that connects to most of Europe. All of that can be found at my website at New Mexican Roots - New England Roots

My Hispanic father's New Mexican surnames:
López
Tórres
Sánchez
Luna
Armijo
Chávez (Durán y Cháves)
Silva
Sena
Lueras
Lucero (Godoy)
Moya
Baca (you aren't a true New Mexican if you don't have a dozen Baca ancestors)
Candelaria
García (de Noriega, Jurado and la Riva)
Romero
Vallejos/Ballejos
Gutiérrez
Martín (Martínez)
Griego
Montoya
Aragón
Salazar
Varela/Barela
Salas
Castillo
González
Montes Vigil
Archuleta


There are many more. Anyone from the Río Abjo in New Mexico is probably related to me some how. We are all cousins on this earth, but we in the Río Abajo are even closer cousins many times over. Since there was Spanish settlement here since 1598, and during most of the 1700s NM was pretty much closed off from the rest of the world, everyone married and had children with everone else.

My English Maternal Grandmother's names:
Atwood
Cole
Walker
Ross
Woods
Weston
Piper
Nye
Sears
Paddock
Alden
Mullins
Southworth
Ellis
Jewett
Heywood
Farnsworth
Cooley
Judson
Martin
Palmer
Booth
Pope
Prudden
Minor
Beers
Nicolas
Crowell
Mayo

Again there are more names, and most of the connected with the Great Migration to New England.

My Scott-Irish/Swiss/German Maternal Grandfather, and many of these I just recently have found. They began in Switzerland and German, moved to Pennsylvania, then Virginia and quickly after to Indiana.
Blair (the only Scott-Irish name among them)
Blume
Weaver (Weber)
Breeden
Trout
Link
Grubb
Zumwald
Jacobs
Bird
Hockman
Denlinger
Longnecker
Schwartz

Yes, I'm addicted to genealogy and history. Genealogy makes teaching history a lot more fun. My husband says I'm trying to connect everybody in the world to each other. (Dear Buddha, that would be just too cool!) I doubt if I were to live a dozen more life times that I could do that. Genealogical research has proven to be a great escape from the intesity of teaching history to 7th and 8th middle school students.

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kestrel91316 Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue Jun-19-07 04:37 PM
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38. Hey, you got John Alden and Priscilla Mullins, too?? WE'RE COUSINS, lol!!
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Cybergata Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue Aug-28-07 07:55 PM
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46. You and me and lots of other people!
I think it was John Alden who has more decedents than anyone else from the Mayflower. They had so many kids who had so many kids who also had so many kids, and here we all are. ;-)

I was told about my ancestry of John and Priscilla by my mother because her mother had her genealogy done by a professional way back when. Just recently I found other Mayflower ancestors. You might find more too. Where they is one, there is likely to be more.
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Montauk6 Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu Jun-07-07 04:30 PM
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29. Here's my list
My LineWoods
McGinnis
Phillips
Poole
Mootye
Brasher
Stinson
Stevens
Simmons
Bell
Thompson
White
Willingham
Newsome
O'Hara (Oharro, Oharra)
Fluker
McLeod


My wife's line
Lane
Brennan
Hughes
Pope
Whitehead
Sullivan
Shaver
McNeil
Cutts
Greenley
Hogan

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iverglas Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu Jun-07-07 04:57 PM
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30. ah, the eponymous list ;)

"My line" -- followed by a line ... under everything. ;)

You still have time! fix that /u tag!

Meanwhile, I continue to be amazed at the number of names there are in the world. No overlap in mine with anybody here so far, not a one!

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IA_Seth Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri Jun-08-07 11:39 AM
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31. I got me a Simmons
Wouldn't happen to have ancestors in Iowa would you? I would guess that prior to that they came from Indiana or Ohio (like most of the rest of the Iowan's did in those days). I have a Cynthia Ann Simmons married into my line in late 1800s, but I have nothing on her line.

Of course the one match would have to be a common name from a line I know little about.
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Montauk6 Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu Jun-28-07 09:07 PM
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41. My Simmonses (a line by marriage) come from Clarks, Louisiana
The only Iowans would be my wife's people in Cerro Gordo, starting with Theron Wordsworth Lane (her 2nd Great Granduncle), originally from Oneida County, NY, who headed West with his bride Martha Jane Benjamin (from Herkimer, NY), settling in Rock Falls, NY (Cerro Gordo County) betw Fall 1865 and Summer 1866. Before the birth of their 8th child (of 11) they relocated to Elm Grove, ND. Sometime later, after 1888, they moved again to their final stop in Seattle, WA; Theron died 1895 and Martha 1920.
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Pakhet Donating Member (308 posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sat Jun-09-07 11:09 PM
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32. big list - and all dead ends right now
Edited on Sat Jun-09-07 11:11 PM by Pahket
I haven't done anything with any of this for a couple of
years, but this forum has piqued my interest again :)  These
are the ones that have more than 3 ppl attached to the surname
that I've found so far.

Ademar                 MacKissack
Alleman                Makemie
Allseabrook            McKemy
Apperson               Mozfeldt
Artaud                 Mylcharane
Astraud                Offutt
Atkinson               Olinger
Austin                 Peck
Beeghley               Plocher
Bennett                Quayle
Blocker                Read (reade, reed)
Bradshaw               Revenflow
Brush                  Richmond
Bulow                  Rickli
Bumpus                 Savile
Burgess                Saylor
Chiles                 Shaffner
Comfort                Stryker
Conklin                Thornhill
De Bellacombe          Van Aken (Vanaken)
De Puy                 Van Ditmars
De Rastrich            Vining
De Woodhouse           Wegennast
Du Puy                 Whitmarsh
Flickinger             Wills
Flory                  Zug
Gillison
Hammond
Hanson
Horr
Horton
Hunt
Kinread
Kissack 
Lichty
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iverglas Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sun Jun-10-07 01:13 PM
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33. I'm curious about Horr
Googling a bit, I see that in some cases it is a variant of Hore / Hoar / Hoare - although since I also see it associated with Hoor, I'm getting the notion that it might in that case come from a Dutch end of things or something like. Apparently it was also Haw and Hawes in some places in England.

My Hoars / Hoares are in Cornwall. In one early census there, their name is spelled Hore, but I think that was probably enumerator confusion with a family of actual Hores right next. The name seems to have been Hoar in the 18th century and become Hoare in the 19th, in my case.

(This is such fun. A couple of weeks ago, I got to tell my mother that her great-great-grandmother was a Hoare.)

Do you know the nature of your Horr surname? I assume your Horrs are in the US; English? and if so, do you know whereabouts from?

In any case, this has given me a whole new thing to play with. Maybe some of my Hoar/Hoare line took to calling themselves Horr, before or after my grx3 grandmother Hoar married a Hill; it's a variant I actually wasn't aware of before!



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Pakhet Donating Member (308 posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sun Jun-17-07 12:09 AM
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34. Horr/Hoar
Mine go from father Robert Horr (b. 1719 Mass, d. ~1874 Mass) to son Robert Hoar (b. 1748 Mass, d. 1818 Mass) to son Robert Horr (b. 1781 d. 1834, Ill)

That's about all I have. They apparantly are an offshoot of my Read/Reed/Reade line.
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iverglas Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sun Jun-17-07 11:15 AM
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35. Robert Hoar 1719

I'm sure *you* know that there's stuff about this Hoar line all over the internet! But you don't descend from him, I gather. I'm always finding that it's the families my people married into that are rich and famous and traced back to the Conquest ... just not mine own.

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Pakhet Donating Member (308 posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sun Jun-17-07 06:28 PM
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36. actually... :p~
I didn't know that. I think they are just an offshoot line for my family, married into the Read line. I suppose I should look them up, huh? :D
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kestrel91316 Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue Jun-19-07 04:40 PM
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39. There were two Horr sisters who married my Mormon polygamist
g-g-g-grandfather, William Adams Hickman. Mary Lucretia Horr and Hannah Diantha Horr.

What a name for a young woman to be saddled with......
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iverglas Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue Jun-19-07 04:48 PM
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40. aha

While reading about 'em the other day, I found that it's pronouced "oar". Now I get to tell my mother her gr-gr-grandmother wasn't really a, er, Hoare.

It sounds like Horr is mainly a US version of the name. Another example of illiteracy, in the absence of formal records, mutating the spelling to a phoneticly similar version, maybe, like the Markham -> Marcum example. (My recent ancestors were illiterate too, but there were parish records and such in England that told them how to spell their names, most of the time. My Ms. Fallowell went with Farrowell when she married -- an interesting clue to local dialect in itself.)
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kestrel91316 Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue Jun-19-07 04:32 PM
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37. It would be a whole lot easier for me to list the few surnames that
are NOT found in my family tree, lol. Got a bunch of Mormons in there, and New Englanders with 20 kids in every generation.......
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Critters2 Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu Sep-27-07 01:12 AM
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47. I know this is way late, but I just found this group.
Names I'm working on are:

Cornelius (Probably Scots-Irish)
Hanrahan (Kerry, Ireland)
Shields (Roxborough, Scotland)
Keal (Prussia)
Guynn (also probably Scots-Irish)
Dahms (Prussia)
Harris (Scotland)
Cross (Kerry to Northern Kentucky)
Boyd (Scots)
Hyland (Irish)
Oliver (Roxborough, Scotland)
Hadler (Germany, probably Prussia)
Murphy
O'Mealy
Martin
Powell
Tibbets
Wallen


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Thirtieschild Donating Member (978 posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Mon Oct-08-07 09:04 AM
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48. 5th generation surnames
Mine:

*Reitz (GER>PA>OH>MO>TX)
Rieth (GER>Northumerland PA)
*Rutt (GER>PA>OH)
*Gish (GER>PA)
*Holdeman (SWI>PA>OH>MO)
*Yoder (SWI>PA)
*Buerge (Alsace>Ontario>MI>MO)
*Kurtz (SWI>PA>ONT>OH)

Hall (??>NC>SC>Hall Co GA>OK>KS)
*McMeen (N Ireland>PA>SC>GA)
*Sloan (County Cork>SC>GA)
Pirkle (??>NC>SC>GA)
*Cartledge (Ridings>PA>MD>NC>GA>OK)
*Lane (ENG>MA>NH>ME>GA)
*McDonald (Skye>NC>GA)
*Forbes (??>VA>SC>GA)

Mr. D
Warner (GER>MD/PA>KS)
*Fehr (GER>MD)
Brown (GER>MD>IN>KS)
*House (GER>MD>IN)
*Brockway (ENG>CT>NY>KS)
*Conklin (ENG>MA>NY)
*Curl (ENG>VA>OH>IN>KS)
*Bowsher (Alsace>PA>OH)

*Ginn (N Ireland>KY>OH>Iowa)
Real (???>OH)
Endsley (???>NC>OH>IN)
Shippen (???>PA>OH)
Hill (???>NJ>NY>Iowa)
*Boyes (Yorkshire>NY)
Griffin (???>NY>ONT>MO)
*Boyes (see above)

*Immigrant known
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Drunken Irishman Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Mon Dec-17-07 10:12 PM
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49. From what I've gathered, the list is really long.
But I'll only keep it from 1700s on, or I could fill up pages.

To make it easier for me, I'll list 'em in alphabetical order.

Archer - Massachusetts
Atkins- Kentucky
Baker - England
Blair - Ireland to Pennsylvania and Kentucky
Boston - Ireland to Kentucky
Bourne - Ireland to Virginia
Buckley - England to Utah
Carlisle - Ireland
Caskey - Ireland
Cassady - Ireland to Virginia
Cassidy - Ireland to Utah
Castley - England
Cochran - Scotland to Pennsylvania
Compton - Scotland to Virginia and Maryland
Fielding - Virginia
Gray - Scotland
Greer - Ireland
Hamilton - Ireland to Kentucky
Hawkins - Ireland/England to Kentucky
Hill - England to Kentucky
Huey - Ireland to Virginia
Kelley - Ireland
Kennedy - Ireland (linked to the Kennedy line)
Lacefied (Lasswell) - Ireland to Maryland
MacKennedy - Scotland and Ireland
McPadden - Ireland
McNeal - Ireland to Virginia
McKay - Ireland and Scotland
Means - Ireland to Delaware
Moore - Ireland to Maryland and then Pennsylvania
Moredock - England
Nelson - Denmark to Iowa and then Utah
Newhams - England
O'Brien - Ireland
O'Cahan - Ireland
Prather - England to Maryland and Virginia
Reetz - Germany to Michigan and then Illinois
Reynolds - Ireland to England and then Utah
Rumel - Idaho and Utah
Sheridan - Ireland
Skaggs - Ireland to Kentucky
Sorensen - Denmark to Utah
Wade - England to Indiana and then Pennsylvania
Wallace - Scotland to Virginia and Kentucky

This is a mix of my mom's and dad's side.
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Bitwit1234 Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue Dec-18-07 09:16 AM
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50. I envy the fact you people can research overseas connections
As I stated earlier, my main line ended at Chester Pa. He took the name Sealock and we can't find where he came from.

My connections are and they migrated all over the country

Sealock PA to VA
Willis VA
Costello Va
Fox VA
Kerns Va
German/Jerman/Jarmons/(Tarman)VA
Fox VA
Turner VA
Purcell VA
Conner Va
Riley VA (suspected from MD)
Smoot VA
Foster VA
Smith VA
North VA
Jennings VA
Hawes Va
Shacklett Va
Kirkpatrick Va
Wines/Wine Va
Riley Ireland to VA
Allison VA
Heflin VA
Legg Va

And these are the Main ones

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Mr. McD Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu Dec-20-07 01:44 PM
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51. Some of the most commen surnames in my files
Edited on Thu Dec-20-07 01:47 PM by Mr. McD
McDaniel - VA, NE, KS, IA, CO, OR, WA, CA, MO
Hamaker - Germany, PA, MD, OH, NE, KS, IA, UT
Farmer - England, VA, IL, NE
Yearout - Germany, TN, VA, OH
Harkless - PA, OH
Fizer - PA, WV, VA
Maginness - MO, KS, WA
Vanover - NJ, VA, IL
Godbey - Scotland, VA
Bell - - VA
Boyd
Miller - CO, OH, NE, MN
Smith - VA, CO
Harriman - MT, ID, WA
Von Schudi - Switzerland
Neace - VA
Cheney - KS, NE, CO
Von Tschudi - Switzerland
Hamilton - England, KS
Endeman - IL, NE, KS, CO
Hamacher - Germany
Peterson - IA, MO
Rodgers - England, PA, IA
Rodman - CO
Andrews - CO
Orr
Tschudi - Switzerland
Von Glarus - Switzerland
Baker - MO, WA
Bean
McDonald - VA
Jahraus - Germany
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Spider Jerusalem Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed Mar-12-08 05:42 AM
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53. Surnames of my direct ancestors, this side of the Atlantic (warning, long list)
Mostly English origin, mostly 17th century immigrants, mostly Southern (Maryland and Virginia); earliest immigrant: 1608, most recent, 1849

Wise (England to Virginia, 1635)
Scarburgh (or Scarborough; England to Virginia by 1620's)
Savage (England to Virginia, 1608)
Corbin (England to Virginia by 1650)
Henry (Ulster Scots; Ireland to Maryland, 1709)
King (Ireland to Maryland)
Rousby (England to Maryland by 1650)
Morgan (Wales to Maryland by 1637)
Dennis (Ireland to Maryland by 1660)
Davis (England to Maryland)
Purnell (England to Maryland)
Handy (England to Maryland, 1665)
Sewell (England to Maryland)
Stockley (England to Virginia by 1620's)
Thomas (England or Wales to Virginia)
Taylor (England to Virginia by 1620's)
Bennett (England to Virginia, 1618)
Anderson (England to Virginia)
Bright (Washington, DC area; probably Alexandria, VA; possibly German origin)
McKnee (Northern Ireland to Virginia, 1820's)
Lynch (Maryland)
Harrison (Prince William County, Virginia)
Sims (probably Ireland, in South Carolina by 1790's)
Ward (Georgia)
Jones (3 separate Jones families; one in Georgia by 1820's; one from Wales to Maryland in 1600's; one in Virginia in the 1700's, thence to SC, and in Georgia by 1840's)
Dodd (Quaker; England to Pennsylvania, thence to South Carolina, and then Georgia)
Allen (Georgia)
Whaley (England to Maryland, thence to Georgia)
Word (South Carolina)
Langston (England to Virginia, thence to NC and SC)
Bennett (England to Virginia, 1618)
Mangham (probably England, in Virginia by mid-1600s)
French (Northumberland, England, to Virginia by 1750)
Paul (Netherlands, to Pennsylvania by 1700's)
Ewen (England to Maryland by 1654)
Beedle (or Bedell; England to Virginia by 1650)
Dillon (Cork, Ireland; to US 1849, in KY by 1880's)
Childs (Kentucky, probably Maryland and England before that)
Mills (see above)
Carman (England to Long Island by 1640's, thence to NJ and Maryland)
Fordham (England to Long Island)
Dayton (England to Long Island by 1650's)
Dodds (England, to Kentucky and Indiana)
Adams (Kentucky)
Holland (KY, TN, GA)
Aldin (or Alden; England to Virginia)
Willis (England to Virginia)
Nalle (or Nall; England to Virginia)
Utley (Virginia)
Turner (Virginia)
Waggoner (or Wagner; Rhineland Palatinate to Maryland, thence to TN, OH and KY)
Nelson (England to VA and then TN)
Norton (TN)
MacDonald (Scotland, in Kentucky by 1800)

Maryland Catholics (all in Maryland before 1700):
Abell
Usher
Spalding
Jenkins (Wales)
Edelen
Gardiner (or Gardner)
Craycroft (or Cracroft)
Hagan (Ireland)
Mudd
Boarman
Burch
Nevitt
Greenwell
Gough
Holton
Miles
Tattershall
Beckwith
Harvey (or Hervey)
Wiseman
Buckman
Merriman (or Maryman)
Howard
Dunbar (Scotland)
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Bitwit1234 Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri Mar-14-08 01:08 AM
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54. Willis, Mills
Willis and Mills and Fox from Virginia...have lots.

Virginia
Costello
Fox
German/Jerman/St.Germain
Kerns
Riley
Foster
Smoot
Woodward
Allison
Purcell
Williams
North
Corran
Edwards
Gladstone/Gladson
Kirkpatrick
Legg
Young

email me about the Willis, Fox and Mills.
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theHandpuppet Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sat Mar-15-08 08:11 PM
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55. I'm game
SCOTLAND (most to Virginia, late 1600's to early 1700's)
Gilliland (first to east Jersey, 1685)
Brown (to New England, 1646)
Brown (to Virginia)
McColley
Blackburn
Craige
Edmiston/Edmonston

ENGLAND (to North Carolina, Virginia and Maryland, 1600-1700's)
Atwood
Maynard
Walls
Hubbard (early New England)
Dambrill

England or Scotland (to Virginia, early)
Hunt
Thompson

IRELAND
Donahue (to Virginia, 1700's)

GERMANY
Krouskop (to New York in the 1700's)
Dice (Kerhesse region)
Rosenmier (Hanover)

UNKNOWN -- possibly the Netherlands to Maryland and northern neck of Virginia, mid-1600's
Canter

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