Check in here if you've been accused of being a "racist" by Obama supporters

[Clintonista2]

I've been called a racist for:

-Posting a picture of a baby crying, to represent the nature of Obama supporters (The baby happened to be black, and was at the top of the page when I googled the phrase "baby crying")

-Agreeing with Bill Clinton's assertion that Obama's Iraq war position is a "fairy tale"

-Calling Obama an elitist

-Saying that sexism is just as bad as racism


What about you guys?

[zabet]

1. Yes.

One of the main reasons I am not here much any more.

[Bjornsdotter]

2. Yes

....by extension because I support Hillary.

Edit: this is why I'm not here very often anymore

[jackson_dem]

3. I've been called racist for pointing out Obama loses whites, Latinos by double digits+

Yet Obamites love to tout that he wins 90% of blacks. They want it both ways.

[Shoelace]

17. look at the AOL poll "Is America ready to elect a woman or African American?"

sad, so damn sad to say that in the Southern states, it's mostly "no"!
Most other states say "yes" to the question. The thing is, if Obama can't carry the South, then how are we going to do in November?

http://news.aol.com/political-machine/2008/04/18/hot-seat-ready-to-elect-a-woman-or-african-american/

There are a number of polls at that site. It's heartening to see that Clinton seems to be winning by big margins in many of them.

[barb162]

49. I fear Obama will do about as well as McGovern did

[barb162]

48. Krugman mentioned in his column today Obama lost whites by 23%

in Indiana and NC. Hey, he must be a racist too. Yeah, only people who point out Obama's many and huge negatives are racists. :eyes: I'm with ya'.

[saracat]

4. I was called a 'racist' 4 times in one day. I was called a racist for not thinking being a Muslim is

a "bad thing". I am frequently called a "racist". I assume being "racist" to some involves any comment on the primary race that doesn't involve praising Obama. Apparently I am also a "racist" for continuing to admire John Edwards.I am also a racist for refusing to trash the entire state of Pennsylvania, or Catholics or all whites.Odd how easy it is to be a racist on DU lately.I think I have also been called a "racist" for refusing to approve of racism!:shrug:

[susankh4]

5. They haven't called me a racist, per se

but... I know they are in for a particularly heartbreaking couple of weeks. There are some states coming up that are, quite frankly, "just not ready to vote for an African American." Ed Rendell warned the DNC this would be the case in PA and he was right. The same will hold true for IN, KY, WVa.....

As I said in another post on this board.... even I (as a die hard Hillary supporter) am finding this hard to watch. Reality is dawning... and it's not necessarily pretty.

I am choosing to be as compassionate as I can toward the Obama folk. It's not easy... as some of them can sure get nasty. But that is the tact I am going to take.

In the end... I am still praying for a Clinton/Obama ticket. Have my buttons all ready to go here..... have since this all started!

[durrrty libby]

6. The "racist" charges every 5 minutes is big reason why BO

will never be elected. Who wants to listen to that BS everyday

It will not happen

[MethuenProgressive]

15. The Obama Camp has to stop crying wolf everytime someone says "fairy tale,"

"spade work," "Deval Patrick," "Jesse Jackson," "Martin Luther King," "young," "basketball," "cocaine," and "crying wolf"...

[Jamastiene]

7. I, too, have been called racist for, of all things,

pointing out racism from the other side when I see it. :eyes: You'd think they'd crack open a dictionary and learn that racism goes more than one way, but even getting some of them to use punctuation is apparently too much to ask.

[LostinVA]

8. I've been called a racist

Those posters obviously don't know my posting history.

[Mudoria]

9. To me it looks more like a tactic they use to put

anyone who voices an opinion pro-Hillary or noting some unfavorable news about Obama on the defensive from the get-go. No one likes to be called a racist, especially when it's not true. Doing this immediately changes the tone of a thread in their favor since the charge of racism trumps everything else being discussed. As I've said before, the Obama online machine is very adept at deflecting criticism and going into attack mode at the drop of a hat. I really wonder sometimes how many "operatives" the Obama campaign has trolling DU and other Democratic message forums.

[juajen]

28. They also do this to the Clintons. Remember South Carolina?

Evidently this is a tactic that works well, and they have adopted it from the gitgo. Still happening when they can use it against the Clintons and staff.

[Cameron27]

10. So far no,

I've been called a lot of things because I support HRC, but no one's accused me of being a racist. The reason for that may be due to the fact that I just don't post that much anymore. :-)

[Shoelace]

16. same here, but I was called "buffalo breath"!lol

for defending Clinton and my message was that I would support and vote for either one of them as they are both well qualified to be president.
I was kind of shocked but now I'm just plain shocked every morning when I see all the posts flaming Hillary on DU.
Now the more I see of the race, I think that Clinton is the only candidate that could actually win against McSame in November. Am hoping that they are both on the ticket.

[BleedingHeartPatriot]

11. I don't recall being called a racist, but I have been accused of trying to destroy the

Democratic party because I'm supporting a Democratic candidate who isn't Sen. Obama.

[theHandpuppet]

12. Yep, me too.

Which is one of the reasons I don't post much on DU anymore and why I will probably leave this forum after the Dem convention. The remark was deleted by the mods but this particular poster should have been tombstoned long ago for the vile crap she's been spewing in all directions for months now. If it had been a Hillary supporter they would have been shown the door.

DU has become nothing more than the Colorado City of the Obama cult.

[Name removed]

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Sub-thread removed by moderator. Click here to review the message board rules.

[MethuenProgressive]

14. Sure have. Specifically "go ahead, call him a n----r, you know you want to", and in general mostly

As in "dumb white fuck"

[Evergreen Emerald]

18. Yes. I have been called a racist by many obama supporters

You cannot mention opposition to the Obama candidacy without being called a racist.

I do not support Obama. My opposition to his candidacy has nothing to do with race.

This board has become a vitriolic cesspool of hate towards anyone who opposes Obama.

[indimuse]

26. Obama supporters

Have you seen the YT clips of Obama supporters in CA?? Outta control very young aggressives, YELLING and screaming to people, RACIST ! YOU ARE A RACIST! Unreal.

[Arkansas Granny]

19. Yes, I have been called a racist by an Obama supporter.

This particular poster even included my ass in the accusation so I guess that even individual body parts count, too.

[Freida5]

20. absolutely

[Qanisqineq]

21. Pretty sure I haven't

but I don't post much out there (if at all anymore) and when I do, I usually don't read the replies of Obama followers. Most of the O followers don't seem to have anything to say that is worth reading anyway.

[Maribelle]

22. I have been called 'racist' more than once.

Nothing could be further from the truth.

[Texas Hill Country]

23. many times... it is amazing

[question everything]

24. Yes, for questioning the way delegates are allocated in PA and in TX

and, perhaps in other states. Districts that have voted Democratic in the past were getting more delegates allocated to them. Thus, the inner cities in TX and PA, that are dominated by blacks, were getting more delegates than the rural, white areas. And this is why Clinton winning big was not translated into a similar winning of delegates. As she said in Nightline earlier: had we have the Republicans rules of winner takes all, she would have secured the nomination by now.

Also, the fact that Oprah and Jesse Jackson would not have pushed for Obama had he not been black.

[indimuse]

25. here!

I have been insulted from day 1! What I post...I learned from DU! I started out neutral...LOVED Obama! NOW...very sad my opinion, of him and his "Obamacan Attack Hyenas"...

[Lyric]

27. Me. n/t

[juajen]

29. I honestly don't know if I have or not. I usually post and then

boogie out of the thread, because I do not like being called names or being bullied. So, I just leave. Isn't that what our mothers used to tell us to do?

I wish Skinner would come back and post with us. They are more polite when he's here, and I like hearing from him.

[Two Americas]

30. several times now

It is all pretty ugly and completely over the top. Just suggest that some are going over the top, and a bunch will go over the top.

I have never seen anything like this in politics, and I am not sure what it means or what it will lead to. It is like dealing with a pack of snapping, snarling wild dogs. Of course, if Obama supporters saw that remark, they would flip out - "see??? The Clintonistas are spewing hatred and attacking us!!! He called us dogs!!! They will do anything to win, and are just like Republicans!!"

[DemExpat]

31. ALL Hillary supporters are racists, don't you know?

Racism is inherent in supporting Clinton over Obama....

:puke:

I come here now just for news lately, and to compare Obama Underground to mainstream media sources.


DemEx

[Texas Hill Country]

32. present.

[Tyler Durden]

33. I've been called a racist since I predicted Obama would pull the Race Card last year.

I took exception to something Obama did back last fall, and predicted that if he was ready to campaign like that, then pulling the race card was only a matter of time.

[Radio_Lady]

34. Does it count if you've been called a "racist" who doesn't even know she is one?

Honestly, most of that was before the primary season started. I'm staying pretty clear of this site for now.

It's truly amazing how knowledgeable some DUers think they are.... :sarcasm:

Cordially,

Radio Lady in Oregon

[Wash. state Desk Jet]

35. ! Does it really matter?

Where does it begin and where does it end (?) It's just like a wave anywhere in the ocean. Pick a point,where does it begin and where does it end (?)You cannot tell them anything because they think they already know.

[Radio_Lady]

39. "You cannot tell them anything because they think they already know."

That's the big problem.

This place is a lot of anonymous talking by people who THINK they know others.

Do they REALLY know? I doubt it --

[Wash. state Desk Jet]

53. Well now Radio Lady !

Obama said a while back in time that he wish's the race would end so he can tap into the mood of the country. So my guess is ,what they, those of whom you mention are tapping into one another or so they think! You know Nixon was good at tapping into people ,he had a way of seeming to be the Richard Nixon you thought he was! In fact it earned him the title of tricky Dick!

But he was also diagnosed by the presidential shrink as being a closet psychopathic homosexual!Those shrinks sure can throw words around ,can't they!

Oh, I must tell you ,I threw in the closet part! I mean what the hay ,it just seemed to fit perfectely! I mean clearly, No,I think I mean perfectly clearly! If the glove fits, no,ah, a little too early for that kind of humor!

Let's see, feelings simply are, no, ah, it,s a trendy culty sort of a thing ,on and so on.

civility-healthy competition -who is to say.

Let's see, it's not about flag pins, it's not about religion.

[IowaGirl]

36. Yes, for pointing out O's lack of experience, early on.

[NashVegas]

37. I Haven't Been Called A Racist Outright, I Don't Think

But there've been plenty of insinuations.

[MonkeyFunk]

38. Who hasn't?

Evidently supporting someone other than Obama is itself racist.

[BigBearJohn]

40. yes

[Horse with no Name]

41. Checking in.

I was told that I had to be a racist because there was really no other reason I wouldn't vote for obama.:eyes:

[saracat]

42. Of course. It isn't as though anyone could fault his qualifications! Snark!

[DawgHouse]

43. Yes, me too.

It was for daring to mention sexism. I don't know if you've heard, but sexism doesn't exist anymore. Apparently, since wimmin can vote and get equal pay all that stuff, sexism has been eradicated. And besides, it doesn't HURT like racism does. No, don't bother talking about domestic violence or women's issues in third world countries. :sarcasm:

[barb162]

44. I don't know as I often don't even bother looking at replies to my posts

when I go on the primaries forums.

PS/ edit, just remembered, yes, some moron was implying I was anti-black because I was for HRC. It was so idiotic I think I didn't respond. You know, you wouldn't accuse someone of being anti-female unless they're for HRC. It's simply idiotic.

[Qanisqineq]

46. Post and run!

That's what I do if I ever post. I don't need to read any more vile posts than I already do and I don't want to get my blood pressure up even more than it is reading GD:P.

[barb162]

45. look at this

http://www.democraticunderground.com/discuss/duboard.php?az=show_mesg&forum=132&topic_id=5873034&mesg_id=5873034

[Wash. state Desk Jet]

47. When they don't get their way

They go off on it. One step forword than two steps back, that is sad.
Everything in the world that has evolved aroud change and suddenly they think they got it all in the palms of their hands.

Is that turning the page or closing the book as Kennedy said? Is that what that is? That is so sad.

[rodeodance]

50. yes, a few times.

[Chalco]

51. Amen. nt

[Hoof Hearted]

52. Oh hell yes.

I've lost track of the times and reasons but really the vast majority of the time it was simply because I don't "believe."

[susanwy]

54. A little exchange on this topic

a reply to my post http://www.democraticunderground.com/discuss/duboard.php?az=view_all&address=132x5918865

I would strongly suggest that you try to understand your real motivations and reasonings for disliking Obama so much before posting like this in future. The lack of any substantive dissimilarities along with your strenuous objections to racism are likely to make people wonder if there isn't more there than you either perceive or wish to admit.

My Reply:

My "strenuous objections" to racism have to to with the complicity of the Obama camp (and, I acquiesced above that most are correct here, not he personally) enabling the MSM to bludgeon non-supporters over the head with the race card. However, I still believe with his eloquent style he could have stood up and said my opponent is not a racist and we must stop this divisive bullshit. I kinda think he would have, but the the MSM likes it both ways and bludgened him over the head with the Rev Wright bullshit. BTW, I hope we all strenuously object to racism, discrimination, sexism and inhuman treatment, the world would be a better place.

Their reply back:

As for calling you a racist, I did not do that. I said that they way you stated your opinion could make others think you were. I have no idea as I don't know you, but on the basis of that thread alone, I'd have suspicions of some underlying prejudice that makes you leery of voting for a black man. I'm not saying you do, I'm saying that the thread has that undertone.

And my final response:

So, let me make sure we understand one another...your not calling me a racist but the "undertone" you perceive in my original post is racist and you have some suspicions of some "underlying prejudice" involved. I always loved Denzel Washington's line in the movie Philadelphia where he says "explain this to me like I was a three year old". But, explain this to me like I was a three year old, how does your statement not imply I am a racist? Or maybe your saying I'm racist and I just don't know it? Either way, the implication stands. Hence the first bullet in my list. Please stop that, because your right, you don't know me, my background, how I was raised, the demographics of my family or anything else about me other than your perceptions. Perhaps you should examine your own motives for trying to make the race debate so, and please pardon the pun, "black and white".

[Wash. state Desk Jet]

55. They are trying to be tricky

Reminds me of Obama saying he may have made a mistake! I,am not saying that there may be some underlined closet aspects in what you posted, but your post could be made out to seem as though there are.Rather the direct opposite of making their selves perfectly clear though tricky none the less. Brain wizards the lot of them. Fine example of higher education they are! Smart, tricky ,experienced ! Maybe that's why you can't tell them anything. Or isn't that because they think they already know!But what they don't get is that it is always better to know than it is to think that you know!

Oh ya, they need to be lead by someone just like them!Hay, there goes Obama on a bicycle riding across the desert sands of Oregon leading their way!But he needs to rest!

[paulk]

56. yes, directly by the poster

"hepburn"

and all of us are called that here on a daily basis just for being Hillary supporters.

[Clintonista2]

57. Yuck, she's a nasty one isn't she?

[paulk]

59. there is a clear bias on this board

when posters like that one are allowed to spread their hatred with no consequence.

[Lilith Velkor]

58. No, but I've been called a man-hater

My screen name can be a Rorschach test sometimes.

[blueracine]

60. me too

I was called a racist when I pointed out that he went to upscale private school in Hawaii and that hardly made him in touch with most people of color from a family viewpoint.

Then it was because I said sexism is more far ranging and deeply embedded in our society than racism because it's become accepted by so many women who cannot fight it. I said if we truely addressed sexism to it's full extent then racism would disappear since women come in all races. --Well, for that I was called racist and goofy.

I also was called racist--and this is my honest to God favorite-- when I said I didn't trust Obama, thought he was arrogant and didn't have that much experience. I guess you can only say things like that about white women now days, older white women.

[NV1962]

61. Meh...

I think their responses to Marie Cocco's piece is all one needs to contemplate.

According to them it's perfectly OK to be a misogynist, as long as you don't say anything non-praising about you-know-who, because if you do, you're in for a treat of racism slurs. Which is doubly tragicomic, considering the monumental disservice they're doing to the efforts to stamp out real racism.

Come November, I'll unload my failboat full of "toldyaso". The rest of the "toldyaso" shipment will arrive on Inauguration Day.

[susankh4]

62. I was just called a "Redneck"

First time in my life!

I'm moving up in the world, I guess.

[MethuenProgressive]

63. Should we check back in each time it happens?

Twice today.

[Up2Late]

64. Of course, that's about all they have, it's projecting...

...right out of the GOP play-book. First page I think, with really big type.

[Ellen Forradalom]

68. Bingo--projection it is.

The self-congratulatory left has been masterfully manipulated.

[hendo]

65. I'm an Obama supporter, but

I was called racist for saying that there were factors other than race that led to Obama losing in WV.

[doc03]

66. You can't make even the slightest anti-Obama comment

without being called a racist. In my opinion (they) are the racists. If any white pastor or congregation shared the views of blacks such as they do at the TUCC do about whites they would call you a racist. I just don't buy the idea that a man could go to a hateful obviously racist church for 20 years and not share their views. I think this whole TUCC thing will be sighted as the reason for our loss in the GE of 2008. I don't know any Democrat in this area that will vote for Obama in the GE, I live in SE Ohio so they say fuck you people in Appalachia you are ignorant racists. I don't think the Democratic party can win the GE without us ignorant hillbillies in Appalachia. I think the Obama supporters are going to have to eat a lot of crow this November and I am staying around to serve it up. Oh, I said crow they are black aren't they, the Obomatons would say that is racist I'm sure.

[kelligesq]

67. twice for trying to talk to them about stopping bashing HRC & Supporters for sake of unity

there's no sense in even trying to discuss anything with them. They're only capable of answering you in four letter curse words.

[polmaven]

69. I was also called a Nazi

the other night because I said I thought that sexism and racism meed to be unacceptable in this country.