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theHandpuppet Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue May-20-08 04:15 PM
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Just wanted to say farewell to friends here...
Edited on Tue May-20-08 04:16 PM by theHandpuppet
Sadly, after six years of fighting the good fight here at Democratic Underground, I have finally come to the conclusion that what was once a haven for Democratic voices has morphed by such an ugly, unrecognizable degree that I simply must take my leave. Fora that have admittedly had their share of heated debates and differences over the years have now been taken over by mob rule. The atmosphere has become poisonous and rather than willingly subject myself to the abuses of the new DU, it's really best that I go. I can no longer tolerate the class warfare, homophobia and sexism that actually seems to be on the rise. What progress is that, I ask myself. I'm simply watching this place implode.

I gave it one last try today, tried to reach out to more reasoned voices, but after yet another wave of insults against Appalachians by the same old attack mob I've decided this has become akin to an abusive relationship. Time to go. I am going to make some copies from my DU journal this evening and shut the door on this particular chapter of my online activism.

Thanks to those holdouts here who have also fought the good fight. Without you I wouldn't have been able to continue for as long as I have. You are, perhaps, braver and stronger souls than me. You have my sincere admiration and my heartfelt gratitude. I'll miss your voices. Know that I will be there with you in spirit. You are great Dems, great folks, and I've been proud to know you.

-- Kate, aka theHandpuppet





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anamnua Donating Member (363 posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue May-20-08 04:31 PM
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1. Slug it out.
I joined as a poster recently. I disagree. I think the best thing to do is stand your ground and slug it out. However I respect your decision.
Best wishes
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Two Americas Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue May-20-08 04:52 PM
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2. oh no
I don't blame you Handpuppet, but damn I hate to see you leave. Just hate it.

There is something significant happening in the party. I think it is breaking apart. Too many Obama folks are saying "good riddance! Fuck 'em! Who needs 'em!" but I need all of you folks, and just because we are being purged does not mean that we are alone - we have each other, and that is not based on some superficial reason such as all belonging to the same fan club.
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barb162 Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Mon Jun-02-08 12:04 AM
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25. The ones who say that are the ones who are too fucking dumb to counts
Older women, hispanics, etal. Obama can't win without these groups.
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susankh4 Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue May-20-08 06:02 PM
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3. You will be missed.
But... I can't blame you at all.

I mean, why keep fighting such an uphill battle against folks that are supposed to be comrades?

Peace... wherever you go!:pals:
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Wash. state Desk Jet Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue May-20-08 07:56 PM
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4. Take a break
Edited on Tue May-20-08 08:02 PM by Wash. state Desk Jet
Than come back. That mob knows not what the gift package holds for each and every one of them! Trust me ,what they have coming is no less than they deserve.That old song god damn the pusher man. Drugs,property holdings ,guns ,hell they are global these days.
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Wash. state Desk Jet Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue May-20-08 08:33 PM
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7. Criminal investigations take a long time
Edited on Tue May-20-08 08:42 PM by Wash. state Desk Jet
eventually truth in the form of facts pop up.Trial proceedings are always lengthy when big money lawyers are involved.Sooner or later.After all who would have thought the attorney general would be forced out of office befor it actually happened? Many thought he should be ,but only a few knew he would be.And he was indeed,forced right out.One of many and many more to come.
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IowaGirl Donating Member (539 posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed May-28-08 10:35 PM
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19. That's a good idea, take a break and then come back!
Things could change big around here.
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Maribelle Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue May-20-08 08:03 PM
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5. I do believe Obama's cult broke all records tonight for hate. The filth on DU-P is unbelievable.
I simply do not want to be associated with this type of classlessness. I guess I'll have to join you in saying good-by to DU as well.

I believe you and most of Hillary's supporters here are truly grand people. And I am sure Hillary would be so proud of each of you. It's been quite a ride.

Hope to see you all around the corner! If I don't - - please take good care of youselves. I'll have you in my thoughts.




:grouphug:
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Two Americas Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed May-21-08 11:18 PM
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12. you will be missed
Always have enjoyed your contributions. Best wishes.
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JohnnyLib2 Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue May-20-08 08:23 PM
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6. All best wishes.

Yours has been a refreshing voice.
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Arkansas Granny Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed May-21-08 05:50 AM
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8. I know it has been disheartening, and I can certainly understand your feelings.
Take care of yourself, but please consider just taking a break. You will be missed by all of us.


:hug:
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MethuenProgressive Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed May-21-08 09:14 AM
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9. Fare thee well, Katie
:hi:
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bpeale Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed May-21-08 05:08 PM
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10. i can SO SO understand why you're leaving
this place has become the most hateful, ignorant place i have ever had the misfortune to wander into. i can't handle the obamanites either. they seem more like republicans these days and i don't have to associate with republicans. they are promoting unity? puleez! quick! when was the last time you heard I'M A UNITER NOT A DIVIDER???? anybody?
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barb162 Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Mon Jun-02-08 12:19 AM
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29. You're right.
It's mob stuff and much of it is on the emotional level of a pathological 14 year old.
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Dinger Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed May-21-08 11:08 PM
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11. Don't Go. Stay & Fight Like Hillary Would ! : )
Or at least consider it. You are welcome here, by me for starters.:) :hug:
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MoonRiver Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri May-23-08 11:04 AM
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13. I left weeks ago. Just thought I'd check in with the Hillary forum to see what's doing.
Sadly, I believe that not just DU but the entire Democratic Party is self-destructing from it's own crazed anti-Clinton vitriol.

You were a great contributor to DU, and your leaving is DUs loss. :hug:
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DemExpat Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri May-23-08 07:50 PM
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14. There is not much left here on DU politically with all of the insanity
accusing Hillary of advocating O's assassination....:puke:


Just a few nice DU groups to engage in anymore.


I agree with others here, I think the whole party is self-destructing.

DemEx
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dsc Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sat May-24-08 05:16 PM
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15. I am honestly sorry to see you go.
I hope you are not gone yet so you see this post. Good luck in future endeavors.
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juajen Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sun May-25-08 08:50 AM
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16. I wish you would stay. Eventually, sanity will return.
We will miss you.
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Horse with no Name Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sun May-25-08 10:13 PM
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18. Sanity is gone
Groupthink is all the rage.
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Seabiscuit Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sun Jun-01-08 10:24 AM
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23. Agreed. And I see absolutely no chance of recovery for DU.
Edited on Sun Jun-01-08 10:25 AM by Seabiscuit
My heart goes out to Kate.
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barb162 Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Mon Jun-02-08 12:15 AM
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28. Well, It's been coming a long time
I've been noticing it on several issues.

I guess that empty chanting shit goes a long way for some people... those with the brain power and thinking ability of pinheads.
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barb162 Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Mon Jun-02-08 12:10 AM
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27. Orwellian... yes. And frightening.
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Hatchling Donating Member (968 posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sun May-25-08 10:08 AM
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17. Sadness is all I can express.
I keep trying to break away from here myself, but it is like a wound. It keeps hurting and itching and I cannot leave it alone.
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rodeodance Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sat May-31-08 07:10 PM
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20. I JUST SAW THIS. --OH NOZ, BUT i DO UNDERSTAND
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doc03 Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sat May-31-08 08:57 PM
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21. I am going to stick around to after Obama loses the November
GE for us and serve up crow to the arrogant SOBs that say fuck you people in Apalachia we don't need your vote, good riddance.
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rodeodance Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Mon Jun-02-08 05:03 AM
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31. immature bahavior on your part to come into this forum and mock HRC supporters
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barb162 Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Mon Jun-02-08 12:09 AM
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26. I am sorry to hear you are leaving. I hope you come back.
I have to take breaks from here as some people are so outrageous in their hate. If they can't drive HRC supporters off this board they're not happy. The thing about Appalachians is just as bad as dissing rural people or Southerners. I don't get this party of inclusion and unity business when so many DUers are spending their time trying to drive other good Democrats off the board.
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Qanisqineq Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Mon Jun-02-08 02:08 AM
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30. that's what I really don't get
For all their talk about unity and hope, the O supporters sure are full of hatred and division. Racism bad but apparently classism is A-Ok, as well as sexism and ageism. They don't want to expand the democratic party, they want to narrow it down and get rid of most of us.
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