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NashVegas Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sat Aug-30-08 06:29 PM
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Some Thoughts On Palin
It's not about her. She was chosen to rub the Clinton supporters / Obama supporters feud in everyone's faces. The fact GD: P is in such an ungodly uproar bears that out. People need to calm the fuck down and deal with it.


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Ellen Forradalom Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sun Aug-31-08 02:18 AM
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1. I had an ugly fight with the spouse about it
Him: Are you as insulted as I am about the obvious pander...?
Me: As a matter of fact, no. It is nice to be asked politely for my vote, instead of having it beaten out of me with the unity stick.
Ugliness ensued.

I am flattered to receive the engraved invitation. I will politely check NO in the RSVP and mail it back, but it's nice of them to think of me.

McCain saw a political opportunity and went for it. We can't blame him for it; it is what politicians do. The question is, what did we do to create that opportunity for them?
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NashVegas Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sun Aug-31-08 11:21 AM
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2. LOL. Great Line
Equally fun are the essays coming out that call for Hillary Clinton to campaign against Palin. Hello?

How about we campaign against John McCain and FOR Barack Obama?
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Ellen Forradalom Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sun Aug-31-08 02:03 PM
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3. Yeah! I say, scratching my head
Campaign on the issues! Ask the voters politely for their votes!

What quaint old fashioned notions. I guess I should hie my ass back to the 20th century where I belong.
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Ellen Forradalom Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu Sep-04-08 09:38 PM
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5. After the Palin speech
I said looks like she's a force to be reckoned with.

"We'll send out Hillary then."

:wtf:
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Dinger Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue Sep-02-08 09:05 PM
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4. Me & Mr. Dinger Had A Doozy Too
He went to bed, and I stole $50 out of his wallet. He didn't miss it, but I felt better.
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Ellen Forradalom Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu Sep-04-08 11:48 PM
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7. LOL You came out way ahead of me
Mr. Forradalom stalked out of the restaurant and stuck me with the bill. :rofl:
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Ellen Forradalom Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu Sep-04-08 09:39 PM
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6. Palin is a far-out wingnut for sure
but possesses mounds of raw political talent. The Obama campaign would be well advised to not underestimate her.
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Control-Z Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri Sep-05-08 09:51 PM
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8. I hate everything Palin stands for except
the part about being a woman.

Obama blew it big time by not picking Hillary, imo. The Dems would be soaring at this point had he made the better choice. Nothing wrong with Joe Biden. In fact, I think he's great. But he's not Hil. Great political move by McCain. Lacking creds or not. Still a great move.
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Ellen Forradalom Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sat Sep-06-08 12:12 AM
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9. I agree.
And politics is kinda what it's all about during a campaign, isn't it?
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question everything Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sat Sep-06-08 10:46 PM
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10. Palin clearly is an asset to the Repulicans, after her speech
They liked her zingers, they liked her "authenticity" they really don't care - they never do - how they support things about her that normally they abhorred: like women working outside the home and a pregnant teen.

But I have to wonder whether McCain would have selected her - rather, was told to select her - had Hillary been our nominee.

And against a boring pair of McCain-Lieberman, Clinton Clark would have been sailing away in the polls.

Sigh.
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Ellen Forradalom Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sun Sep-07-08 12:30 AM
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11. We opened that door for them
They can hardly be blamed for walking through it.
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Wash. state Desk Jet Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sun Sep-07-08 04:25 PM
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12. Seems as though you got it
but not quite in your grasp. Does grab the ball and run with it ring any bells? Obama having heard worse on the basketball court ring any?

Tipping the balance?

Biden represents no threat to Obama but Palin surely does.

The republicans seem to be running off with the ball.
Who's not watching close enough?

It was just a thousand vote victory in Florida in 1960.
How much can we expect?

The basketball game has only just begun.
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Ellen Forradalom Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu Sep-11-08 12:55 AM
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13. It's been two weeks
And everyone all over the site and the party is still bouncing off the walls. No sign of anyone calming the fuck down or dealing with it. Everyone's way off message. Obama needs to start handing out Quaaludes to his peeps at this rate.
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Horse with no Name Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu Sep-11-08 03:35 AM
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14. This whole debacle proved one thing
The voters were READY to vote for a woman.
That explains the wins in Hillary's column in the states that are needed to win an election. It explains the 18,000,000 popular votes she received. The DNC can put all the superdelegates and caucus wins in the winning column for Obama to make it look good...but it all comes down to the 18,000,000 people who eagerly voted for Hillary and what they were looking for. That wasn't even taken into consideration by the powers-that-be and there are apparently a great deal of them that are throwing their support behind Palin.
Palin is not the candidate WE want...however, she is riding the wave that Hillary started.
The wave that would have been the Democrats.
It's a pity the way it turned out.
Obama made a HUGE mistake when he didn't choose Hillary as a running mate.
It'll be interesting, that's for sure.
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Sadie5 Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed Nov-05-08 07:19 PM
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15. Maybe you agree with me
Edited on Wed Nov-05-08 07:19 PM by Demo5
that there are still so many hard feelings for the way Obama's campaign treated the Clinton's and used the racist chant if you didn't jump on the Obama bandwagon early. Hillary did win the popular vote in most places but she was still asked to step aside for the party's sake, and the SD arm twisting is hard to forget.
Last night on TV I was watching as the local station interviewed Evan Bayh who helped Hillary win Indiana. The interviewer wanted to know if there would be a job for Bayh in the Obama administration, I was surprised when Bayh said in his usually mannered way:"Are you kidding, Richard Lugar would be more apt to get a place in the Obama administration than I would". Bayh went out of his way to help Hillary and I guess the Obama people were upset about it. But when it was announced that Obama would be the candidate Bayh was behind him 100%.
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Arkansas Granny Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu Nov-13-08 03:27 PM
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16. That kind of ties in with a column by Bonnie Erbe that ran in our local paper today.
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