Forum Name General Discussion: Primaries
Topic subject To the Obama Supporters: If you truly feel he's got it "in the bag":
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http://www.democraticunderground.com/discuss/duboard.php?az=view_all&address=132x4696018#46960184696018, To the Obama Supporters: If you truly feel he's got it "in the bag":
Posted by Tyler Durden on Thu Feb-21-08 10:46 AM
Then it's far past time you started COURTING Clinton Supporters.
Obligatory Disclaimer: I dislike both of them.
That said, I am watching the Obama supporters (and to a much lesser extent, the Obama Campaign) make the same stupid mistakes that were made in 1971/72. With McGovern, we felt we had a candidate that the Youth would carry over the top. The problem is that you need 50.0001% of the vote, and without the Old, the Demi-hawks, the Johnson/Humphrey Democrats, WE DIDN'T HAVE IT. You're doing it again.
You can't win this without the general support of the party, and the support that Hillary Clinton has should tell you something:
YOU DON'T HAVE IT.
What will happen in the fall without the general support of the party will be that Barack Obama will be defeated. Items I've seen in the last 3 months bear this out:
*The valley girls saying some variation on "Barack is so HAWT!" is a beaut. Every time this sort of thing hits YOUTUBE, the entire Democratic party should cringe.
*The "Old Woman" Clinton slurs. Time to not stand there humming and twiddling your thumbs if you want older voters to support you. I've heard from Democratic Party Members that they think the country NEEDS an older, seasoned politician, and they don't buy the hope thing. You have to start making Obama look less like a Rock Star and more like The President.
*The continuations of the "Bridge to the 20th Century" boushwa. You know what? Things got pretty damned GOOD under Bill Clinton, and up until recently, if you wanted 200+ posts on a thread, you started with a "BILL CLINTON IS GREAT!" title or a variation on that theme. You may think the Republicans "Block up" but you have seen NOTHING until you've seen a disgruntled Bill Clinton Democrat. One word: NADER.
*DEMOCRATICPARTY, DEMOCRATICPARTY,DEMOCRATICPARTY,DEMOCRATICPARTY,DEMOCRATICPARTY. What am I saying? That I don't hear this coming out of Obama or his Campaign. If you want ex-Clinton supporters on board, then Party Loyalty makes points; I don't care HOW you feel about this that or the other thing you think Clinton or her campaign has done to assassinate Obama. Time to mend ties that bind. You're already late in starting.
There's more, but I'm repeating things you already know if you'd only be honest with yourselves.
Obama already has BAGGAGE DELUXE. Hell, you alienate every Veteran over the age of 40 just with that picture of him standing in front of the flag without hand over heart. Who cares that it's bullshit? Politicians have to kiss babies and wrap themselves in the flag. And this isn't the only thing he's got going that's weight: remember, he's alienated most of a couple of voting blocks (McClurkin) AND THE ANSWER ISN'T "WELL, HILLARY'S JUST AS BAD." Then you piss off TWO groups instead of trying to mend a bridge.
My point is that I've seen these mistakes before, and I've seen the result. There's still time to fix things, make peace with the Clinton Camp, and bring about some party unity. He ignores this not only at HIS peril, but OURS.