***HILLARY CLINTON DEBATE THREAD 2****

[elixir]

[goldcanyonaz]

1. woohoo, we made it to a 2nd thread. YES!

[elixir]

2. She needs to hit him on his special interest contributions 800+K

"It takes a fighter" Hit 'em with the facts Hillary.

[DURHAM D]

3. This is repost from end of prior thread...

Can anyone name one thing that Obama is passionate about. I ask every Obama supporter that I meet - What is his passion? No one has an answer.

[SaveOurDemocracy]

9. I can't ... besides his delusion that he's prepared to be

President and EFFECTIVELY take on the mess that's facing the next president.

[kikiek]

40. He bores me. He is flat and insincere and scared.

[DURHAM D]

71. Flat and insincere - true.

To me he is a Republican who happens to have registered Dem because he has dark skin. Nothing authentic about him.

[rodeodance]

132. He is passionate about seeing himself as the next Pres. and will do anything to win.

[goldcanyonaz]

4. Playing Obama footage of him saying she is running on her being co-President.

[elixir]

5. Brian Williams hits Obama - good.

[elixir]

Obama belittles her time as first lady. Sexist.

[DURHAM D]

6. Obama constantly wonders off topic. eom

[elixir]

8. He's very full of himself. It must be nice.

[goldcanyonaz]

7. Obama states you gotta show up to vote. Is he fricking serious?

[elixir]

11. Un fu@*& ing believable. He's so pedantic and pompous.

If he's anything like his buddy Deval, he will promise the world and mismanage the kitchenwork.

[rodeodance]

12. PONPUS **SS

[elixir]

14. ou got that right.

[DemCam]

10. ooooohhhhhh

will she hit him with present

[DemCam]

15. ///clinton is pretty tough opponent snark snark

[DemCam]

23. now i understand ....he;s incomprehensible

[elixir]

16. Huh?

[elixir]

20. What are the black Xs on the posts?!! Are we doiing something wrong.

[rodeodance]

24. no, just lots of traffic--the x cuts down on graphic stuff.

[DemCam]

27. can Tim be less relevant

[DemCam]

31. farrukahn ebibidy buh

[DemCam]

36. anti=semitism

why do they let him go on so freaking long

[DemCam]

arrogant

[rodeodance]

17. after that one she better!!

[elixir]

13. Public financing: Tim russert beating up Barack about making a committment. Yeah!!!!

[rodeodance]

21. glad to sse this.

[CarolNYC]

18. live stream

Oooh, much better live stream at http://www.cleveland.com/live/video/

A little behind the msnbc one but it actually plays....And I hate being on the msnbc site anyway....

[elixir]

22. Thanks.

[rodeodance]

72. Thanks so much I an actually listening now.

[goldcanyonaz]

19. Russert bring up her releasing her tax returns. What are you hiding?

[elixir]

25. Good answer on tax returns. "I'm a little busy right now.." hahaha very good.

[elixir]

26. She will release her papers from eight years as first lady. Transparency, yes!!good one.

[elixir]

28. Louis Farraken EEEEEKKKK!!

[goldcanyonaz]

29. Louis Farrakhan supports Obama, Russert bring up endorsement.

[elixir]

30. Just the mention of Louis Farraken will freak out a lot of viewers! Not good for BO.

[goldcanyonaz]

32. Russert bringing up Obama's minister Jerimiah Wright and his ties to Farrakhan.

[goldcanyonaz]

35. Obama "I wouldn't be sitting here if Jews didn't support the Civil Rights Movement"

[rodeodance]

44. He has been pandering to them and i do not use that word lightly!

[elixir]

33. Russert keeps beating the Farraken horse. BO is squirming..."your Jewish support will dry

up " How will BO persuade the Jewish community

[elixir]

34. We need a question for Hillary. Too much BO

[rodeodance]

the emphasis on .......bo. (nasty from me)

[elixir]

37. HRC: anti semetic party during her senate race, she rejected their support.

[goldcanyonaz]

38. Hillary says she has always rejected and would never want to be associated with anyone who is anti-

semetic.

Right on!

[elixir]

39. HRC: we need to be stronger on these issues - she's keeping this argument alive becuase it favors he

r. good.

[rodeodance]

41. YES. I think BO---dinkerson on and on !! and ON and ON...HIl just stated it clearly

[kikiek]

48. I got lost. You guys moved. Damn I thought it suddenly got quiet.

[SaveOurDemocracy]

42. HRC is great at dealing in specifics ... BO prefers

generalities and sound-bites because he isn't as knowledgable. You can see his frustration when she presses him to take a stand.

[elixir]

43. Commercial break: how do ou think she's doing?

[rodeodance]

47. I was only able to tune in on the last Jewish question. Hill did better. Unbiased of course.

[elixir]

45. BO voting record more liberal than Ted Kenedy. EEK, the "l" word.

That's going to leave a mark.

[goldcanyonaz]

46. National Journal rates Obama as more liberal than T Kennedy.

[kikiek]

51. He is backing away from the word liberal! Hah

[SaveOurDemocracy]

49. BO ... more liberal voting record than Ted Kennedy.

:rofl:

[DURHAM D]

50. Didn't Obama say earlier in this debate that when he made his October 2002

anti-war speech he was running for the U.S. Senate? I don't believe that is a true statement. The incumbent (Fitzgerald) did not announce until April 2003 that he was not running again and Obama made his decision to run subsequent to that announcement.

Obama = Liar

[SaveOurDemocracy]

53. I think it was the state senate seat?

[elixir]

58. yes

[DURHAM D]

82. I thought he was trying to put more weight on his speech by

saying he was on his way to the U.S. Senate. I have it on TIVO and will review later.

[goldcanyonaz]

52. Obama "I'm attracting the most Independent and even Republican votes" this primary.

[goldcanyonaz]

54. Obama "I'm also beating McCain in the polls"

[rodeodance]

61. DAH> DAH..........

[elixir]

55. foreign affairs; russian election; talk about Putin - HRC answers eloquently. I luv her.

[kikiek]

56. Tough question. Better ask Hillary 1st!

[elixir]

60. Funny, huh?! She's s good.

[rodeodance]

57. almost curious what the obamababies are saying. but not going out there!

[kikiek]

62. Its nice in here why venture out.

[rodeodance]

84. I slapped that fleeting thought down fast!! yes it is safe in here.

[SaveOurDemocracy]

80. I took a peek ... they are all agreeing with each other that BO

is owning HRC ... there are a few brave HRC supporters out there but they are spitting into the wind.

There's one thread claiming that everything HRC's said is a lie ... they can see it in her eyes and body language. :silly:

It's not worth the agg of even responding to their 1 dimensional dogma.

[CarolNYC]

You're either braver...

or dumber than I. haha! No way I'm going out there.

[SaveOurDemocracy]

114. I must have a masochistic streak. ;o)

[DemCam]

59. foreign policy is her claim to competence

[DemCam]

65. he agrees with Hill yet AGAIN

[SaveOurDemocracy]

63. Surprise ... BO agrees with what Hillary said.

[elixir]

66. Too funny, he doesn't seem to care about setting himself apart.

[elixir]

67. Pat answer: We work with the international community

[elixir]

64. BO DEBATE STRATEGY: "Yeah, whatever she said"

[DemCam]

68. HAR

[elixir]

69. He's weak on foreign policy. He'll form a commission to discuss everything.

[kikiek]

77. Because he has no knowledge base of his own!

[goldcanyonaz]

70. Looking back are there any words or votes you like to take back.

[goldcanyonaz]

74. Hillary "I would like to have my Iraq vote back"

[rodeodance]

98. Heads are exploding out in GD-P. they want the I am sorry!!

[elixir]

73. Russer: If you could take anything back what would it be? HRC the IWR. Good for her

now she's discussing so much that Bush has screwed up...unique qualifications on both ends of PA avenue..nice one.

[elixir]

75. He's so pompous I suspect he wouldn't change anything he's done.

[elixir]

81. Where's he going with this... why is he being so nice.

[rodeodance]

89. he wants to be like her!!

[DemCam]

76. her answer on take back was so very eloquent

[elixir]

85. agreed.

[kikiek]

88. I'm very proud to support her. She is intelligent and eloquent. I doubt another will hold a candle

to her, man or woman, in my lifetime.

[rodeodance]

78. she is talking about What we will inheret from georgie boy

[zabet]

79. Obama and Russert appear to have on the same tie.

[goldcanyonaz]

83. Obama "Senator Clinton has campaigned magnificently"

[DemCam]

86. pander

[DemCam]

92. stupid last question

[elixir]

87. Can someone shut him up?

[elixir]

93. BO classy response to last question.

[elixir]

96. Did anyone ask him why he is so much better than her? Yuck, shut him up, oy!!!

[DemCam]

95. if only

[CarolNYC]

99. Yes, please...

It's so hard to listen to him ramble on and on and on and on like that.....

[goldcanyonaz]

90. n/m think I got that one wrong.

[ExtraGriz]

91. i didnt realize he's such a stutterer

uh uh uh, ah ah ah....ehah uh.....good god!! spit it out.

[kikiek]

100. He is empty. Good at firing em up, but no gas to keep em going!

[elixir]

101. yeah, and lots of "well, uh...uh"

[rodeodance]

128. not sure it is stuttering in the medical sence. He needs to think of correct phase to say.

[goldcanyonaz]

94. Obama "I'm a better nominee because I can bring people together"

:puke:

[SaveOurDemocracy]

97. Time for Hillary to bring this baby home.

She needs to finish with a dynamic closing statement proving why she is the best choice.

[elixir]

104. Aaaaand she delivers, personal story and all.. heeeeere's Hillary...

[elixir]

102. Oooh, big applause when she mentions she wld be the first woman

[goldcanyonaz]

105. Here's hoping that Ohio gets it!

[theHandpuppet]

118. Yep, that was nice

Hope it translates into votes!

[goldcanyonaz]

103. Hillary gets applause with first woman President response.

[elixir]

108. She had a great night. She held her own and made good points.

[DemCam]

106. glad she finally said historic race as first woman president

[rodeodance]

107. I like how she said here 90s health care plan failed but she got to work with SChip. you go HILLAR

[elixir]

112. Agreed.

[goldcanyonaz]

109. I want to thank you all for making this debate a special one for me. You all rock!

Now I must turn the tv off so not to watch the Obama circle jerk which will commence in 5.4.3.2....

[SaveOurDemocracy]

111. LOL .... beware GD-P on your way out.

Thanks everyone ... you all rock!!

[elixir]

115. Yeah, it's really ugly out there. But I love pissing those dogs off.

[rodeodance]

125. so do I. ---i am not all that witty but i have taken a few DOWN--har har

[elixir]

122. You rock too Goldcanyonaz. thanks for making it fun.

[rodeodance]

131. back to yah---catch you later

[elixir]

110. UNFUCKING BELIEVABLE. Keith Uberman says BO delivers the closing hit...BS. Hillary

closed w/ the change issue.

[theHandpuppet]

113. Yeah that's when I turned the TV off

His bias is so ridiculous I can't listen to him anymore. I thought Hillary nailed that debate TOTALLY~!

[kikiek]

117. I agree! Changed the channel.

[SaveOurDemocracy]

124. Yes, he has disappointed me ... but then again, I'm not one

to grant supreme status to any human being ... hence my inability to ride the Obama train.

[kikiek]

I don't expect anything less from him.

[rodeodance]

119. dang it -is that how it will be spun?!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!1

[rodeodance]

116. SO GLAD THERE WAS XEROX MOMENT--HA HA

[elixir]

120. Andrea Mitchell: commending HRC on how she presented herself as a fighter - good the message got out

They want a fighter.

[rodeodance]

126. Hey--that is good to hear (no cable here tonight)

[rodeodance]

121. THANKS ALL-----THIS HAS BEEN LOVELY---I FELT GOOD=SAFE IN HERE

[CarolNYC]

123. Thanks all....n/t

[theHandpuppet]

127. Thanks to everyone here

Wow -- it was nice to have this space to share during the debate.

:hi:

[kikiek]

129. I agree with you all. This was wonderful. I sleep good tonight. Hillary still shines!

[DemCam]

130. he;s good as long as he doesn't have to know anything

he's a general kind o guy

say some platitudes...

substance? he's gonna have to learn a lot...

he has no depth or understanding...says those things that he's been coached about....just like
our dearly beloved....GWB

can't believe so many are willing to throw the dice and let another neophyte who needs to be coached
take the helm

surely goodness and mercy....there is something so very wrong with our process that that can be so

[kikiek]

134. I agree ! Too much to fix for a rookie. Send in the big gun. Hillary !

[rodeodance]

133. ***FOLKS----NOW THIS IS OVER--SHE HAS ONE WK TO GO--~~ GOOD LUCK HILLARY.

[kikiek]

135. Pins and needles. It will be a long week!

Goodnite and thanks Rodeo! Best time I've had at a debate!

[DemCam]

136. Thiswas the first debate I've had enough nerve to watch....

I've always relied on reading the comments

BUT

I'm glad I'm supporting the most fabulous candidate that we
have in this race.

I got down in the cesspool today reading comments from the haters, the
Oborgs, the beyond sexists, the guttersnipes, and I started to physically
hurt...and feel despair at the ungliness I saw there...

BUT

It's all going down the drain tonight. I saw a woman who is so competent,
so beyond the mudfest that's been hurled at her from every direction...so
capable to be the best president we will allow her to be...

If we don't allow her to serve...it ain't our fault...and we can just be proud.

Hillary Clinton, you are one incredible human being. Thank you for being there.

[feminazi]

137. hey guys

i wish i had known you were here. i didn't think DU would be a safe place to "watch" the debate so i went to taylor marsh's "house".

your comments and the ones at her site were very similar.

i'm sorry i missed you all.

:hi:

[jillan]

138. This is the safest place on DU these days.

;)

[jillan]

139. Keith Olbermann = worst person in the world!

Anyone else see it?

People kept praising Hillary, he kept cutting her down.
He kept talking about how wonderful Obama was.

He really needs to get that stick out of his arse.

[judaspriestess]

140. I am at work I only caught bits and pieces

the little bit I caught she sounded great of course.