my GAWD---LOOK WHAT they just did to bigtree!!

[rodeodance]

Forum Name General Discussion: Primaries
Topic subject I just posted a thread about Clinton in Pa. which got trashed by folks using race as a wedge.
Topic URL http://www.democraticunderground.com/discuss/duboard.php?az=view_all&address=132x5042278
5042278, I just posted a thread about Clinton in Pa. which got trashed by folks using race as a wedge.
Posted by bigtree on Wed Mar-12-08 01:49 PM

here it is. http://www.democraticunderground.com/discuss/duboard.php?az=show_mesg&forum=132&topic_id=5041733&mesg_id=5041733
article: http://www.blog.newsweek.com/blogs/stumper/archive/2008/03/12/clinton-s-case-in-pennsylvania-i-m-one-of-you.aspx


The article states that Clinton did not attack Obama. It was critical and objective, yet it served as a vehicle for folks here who insist on using race as a wedge in this campaign in, apparent, support of Obama.

I'm not here for this abuse. If I can't post a positive thread without the viscous, attacks, there's really no point in coming here. I'm going to break the thread down in a few minutes to the link and the pics and leave those folks, content to exploit race here for their political games, to themselves. Then I'm leaving for a time. It's hard to do, so I'll set a time period, one week. I hope this place has returned to some semblance of comity by then.

Completely disgusted.

EDIT: I've changed my mind. There's no way that I can return to this. I still have some pride left.

5042306, Aww
Posted by Bornaginhooligan on Wed Mar-12-08 01:50 PM

:nopity:

5042351, Aren't you classy? Your maturity level is showing!
Posted by saracat on Wed Mar-12-08 01:53 PM

5042442, here!, i've got one for everyone!
Posted by dionysus on Wed Mar-12-08 01:58 PM

5042364, Deleted message
Posted by Name removed on Wed Mar-12-08 01:54 PM

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5042395, If you're going to defend Clinton over Ferarro...
Posted by Bornaginhooligan on Wed Mar-12-08 01:55 PM

you've really got no business whining about hate.

5042414, why are you harrassing me? I clearly told you to stop.
Posted by bigtree on Wed Mar-12-08 01:57 PM

5042423, You wanted to continue this discussion from another thread...
Posted by Bornaginhooligan on Wed Mar-12-08 01:57 PM

and you expect not to get called out on it?

5042461, I want you to stop. I have NOTHING more to say to you. Is that clear?
Posted by bigtree on Wed Mar-12-08 01:59 PM

5042470, You also said you were going to leave.
Posted by Bornaginhooligan on Wed Mar-12-08 02:00 PM

What happened to that?

5042533, hey.... thats him, always has been, will be.... well before the primary
Posted by seabeyond on Wed Mar-12-08 02:03 PM

sometimes a poster will agree with his message, and all is well, and other times in disagreement, this is what you get. bigtree, ...ignore him

or a least dont take personally

anyway, i havent been on. was gonna check out what you are saying, to see what the "to do" is now between the two parties and racism. will read what you have

5042344, I am so sorry bigtree. The vicious stupidity is incomprehensible.
Posted by saracat on Wed Mar-12-08 01:52 PM

Debate and differing opinion is no longer acceptable. Some have been reduced to bullying thugs.

5042512, WAAH! Obama supporters won't let us be racists! WAAH!
Posted by Alexander on Wed Mar-12-08 02:02 PM



Edwards lost.

Get over it.

5042572, where do you think I was racist?
Posted by bigtree on Wed Mar-12-08 02:05 PM

5042799, So someone hacked into your account and defended Ferraro for you?
Posted by Alexander on Wed Mar-12-08 02:17 PM

:eyes:

5042369, Bye.
Posted by SoonerPride on Wed Mar-12-08 01:54 PM

We'll keep a light on for you.

5042404, your leaving? and people say that you never say anything hopeful
Posted by grantcart on Wed Mar-12-08 01:56 PM

5042411, you are the one who posted the thread with the title "I'm One Of You". Stop playing coy
Posted by cryingshame on Wed Mar-12-08 01:57 PM

5042412, ...
Posted by dmsRoar on Wed Mar-12-08 01:57 PM

http://www.democraticunderground.com/discuss/duboard.php?az=show_mesg&forum=132&topic_id=5041827&mesg_id=5041827

5042424, awww, here's your banky...
Posted by dionysus on Wed Mar-12-08 01:57 PM

5042433, bye
Posted by chascarrillo on Wed Mar-12-08 01:58 PM

Hope you find a place where you can feel free to race bait.

5042474, where did I 'race bait'?
Posted by bigtree on Wed Mar-12-08 02:00 PM

5042490, the first sentence of your OP is a recent example...
Posted by dionysus on Wed Mar-12-08 02:01 PM

5042585, really? I don't think you know a thing about racism.
Posted by bigtree on Wed Mar-12-08 02:06 PM

5042781, "I don't think" sums it up. You really don't. At all.
Posted by Alexander on Wed Mar-12-08 02:16 PM

5042497, just for the record, I don't believe you...
Posted by NorthernSpy on Wed Mar-12-08 02:01 PM

You know what I'm talking about.

5042532, Just for the record, you don't know a thing about me.
Posted by bigtree on Wed Mar-12-08 02:03 PM

5042505, In all honesty, what did you really expect? GD:P has been Thunderdome for weeks
Posted by eShirl on Wed Mar-12-08 02:01 PM

And it has been coming from some members of both sides.

edited to add: why not stay and start putting people on "ignore" instead?

5042549, I've been here since 2003
Posted by bigtree on Wed Mar-12-08 02:04 PM

Kind of an optimist, I guess.

5042675, well, I hope you don't leave without trying out the "ignore" feature first
Posted by eShirl on Wed Mar-12-08 02:10 PM

You can always un-ignore people on your ignore list later if you change your mind about it.

A while back I apent about 3 days madly adding people to ignore, than after a few more days I cleared it out so I could see their posts again. Only now their posts don't bother me *quite* so much as before.

5042545, I agree with you on this
Posted by cali on Wed Mar-12-08 02:03 PM

You posted a positive thread and people who go into a positive candidate thread to shit it on it, are out of line.

5042725, But these roving bands of thugs are allowed!
Posted by SaveOurDemocracy on Wed Mar-12-08 02:12 PM


They make vicious personal attacks, and slap incredibly insulting labels on other posters just because they have a different perspective or opinion. Nothing is done! They get more strident,brazen, and offensive every day, and the number of attacks just grows exponentially!

There is no room for honest debate or dialogue here anymore. It's all very sad.

5042765, I agree with Cali on this, but
Posted by alteredstate on Wed Mar-12-08 02:15 PM

Bigtree, did you think posting a new thread about this would make things better?

5042567, Obama-bots need a dictionary...criticize is not attack, but they frame
Posted by joeybee12 on Wed Mar-12-08 02:04 PM

everything Hilary or her supporters say to use it to their advantage...the good thing is that those people who are not smitten with BO can see things objectively and his tactics will eventually bite him on his sorry butt.

5042681, ...
Posted by dmsRoar on Wed Mar-12-08 02:10 PM

http://www.democraticunderground.com/discuss/duboard.php?az=show_mesg&forum=132&topic_id=5041827&mesg_id=5041827

5042591, I'm so sorry, bigtree
Posted by NastyRiffraff on Wed Mar-12-08 02:06 PM

You're right; it's impossible to post a positive article about Hillary without it being shit on and hijacked. It's like the Obama supporters can't stand anything positive being said about anyone other than St. Barack.

Hope to see you back soon.

5042624, Alright, enough.
Posted by bigtree on Wed Mar-12-08 02:07 PM

bigtree has left the building.

5042630, I guess you'd better get used to it.
Posted by Benhurst on Wed Mar-12-08 02:07 PM

This seems to be what the "New Politics" of "Hope" is all about, judging from what's going on here on DU.

5042640, It's called blowback -- Hillary has earned that suspicion
Posted by Armstead on Wed Mar-12-08 02:08 PM

The Clintons and their surrogates have done a crafty job of trying to make Obama look like someone who is not "one of us" and is somehow not a real politician and too "different" to be taken seriously.

So don't be surprised when skins get thin about an article with a headline "I'm one of you."

5042665, looks like the assholes jumped on this thread, too.
Posted by paulk on Wed Mar-12-08 02:09 PM

I don't blame you one bit, bigtree.

You bring a lot to this board - and it's a sad situation when posters like you get run off by the little brats who have made this place such a drag.

The owners of this site really need to take notice.



ed for sp.

5042691, Yeah I saw that. I posted to it, but made comments in a different direction
Posted by izzybeans on Wed Mar-12-08 02:11 PM

that slogan might just be too tired to work. We've heard this before from many candidates.

5042754, This response couldn't go in the original thread?
Posted by LittleClarkie on Wed Mar-12-08 02:14 PM

Why start a new thread just to gripe?

5042768, It is being done on purpose. See this thread:
Posted by Notorious Bohemian on Wed Mar-12-08 02:15 PM

http://www.democraticunderground.com/discuss/duboard.php?az=show_mesg&forum=132&topic_id=5041430&mesg_id=5041619

5042785, Goodbye, Get a ... sorry, enjoy your life
Posted by intaglio on Wed Mar-12-08 02:16 PM

and stop defending racists, triangulators and DLC puppets

5042814, Clinton didn't attack Obama? What was all that "Shame on you!" shrieking and...
Posted by Buzz Clik on Wed Mar-12-08 02:17 PM

bullshit about not being ready to be prez, and being less qualified on foreign policy than McCain, and the 3 am phonecall, and ... holy shit! Every ad she makes attacks Obama.

Damn, man. What's wrong with you?

Do you think the "kitchen sink" phrase was invented by someone outside the Clinton campaign?

5043122, Locking.
Posted by wakemeupwhenitsover on Wed Mar-12-08 02:32 PM

Please do not start a thread to continue a flame from another thread. That way we can keep the flames in one thread instead of branching out all over GDP which is always my goal in life.

best,
wakemeupwhenitsover

[SaveOurDemocracy]

1. It's become intolerable.

The level of viciousness and taunting continues to grow unabated.

We really need to find a democratic forum with, at least, some minimal standards.


We won't be missed here, evidently the Admins consider us expendable. Wonder what they'll do when the kids go back to their keg parties?

[Raffi Ella]

2. It's absolutely un believable what's going on here

against Our own.I can not believe it.

[rodeodance]

3. This is her last good bye post.

http://www.democraticunderground.com/discuss/duboard.php?az=show_mesg&forum=132&topic_id=5043167&mesg_id=5043167

[rodeodance]

4. I did not know about it till it was over--damm. Yes. one of our own

[paulk]

5. skinner, et al

have let this board be taken over by a pack of snot nosed kids.

we are losing some of our best posters because of it.

[rodeodance]

6. hi paulk welcome--forgive me. i do not recognize your screenname.

[zabet]

7. Disgusting.

I sent a not so nice note to the mods
about the treatment of bigtree and the
continued piling on that is allowed as
long as it is the Obama supporters are
the ones piling on the Hillary supporter.
There are not enough Hillary supporters
posting in GDP to do a pile on against the
Obama supporters.
It won't make any difference but, at least
I got to say how I feel about this to them.
The bias is outrageous. The Brownshirt Brigade
of the Obamanation Youth has jack-booted
their way into control of this forum.

[Qanisqineq]

8. what is wrong with these people?

I never knew bullies this bad back in school. What a bunch of horrible, childish people. :scared:

[LadyVT]

9. They are twelve years old. Emotionally. At most.

[robbedvoter]

10. One of the nicest porters on DU - wrote her asking to check us up here

[libbygurl]

11. Bigtree is here! Check out latest post with nice pics, too! LINK below:

http://www.democraticunderground.com/discuss/duboard.php?az=view_all&address=334x6454

[feminazi]

12. they do act like snot nosed 12 YOs

i used to send my son to timeout for this kind of behavior. he supports HRC so it must have worked!!