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goldcanyonaz Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sat Mar-15-08 05:00 PM
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Obama supporters want Hillary to bail Obama out. Where the F*** was he in S.C.?
He stood around and let his surrogates accuse the Clinton's of racism, but the privileged white lady is now supposed to bail him out of PasterGage?

Let them eat cake!
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lachattefolle Donating Member (527 posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sat Mar-15-08 05:08 PM
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1. Most of Obama's people on DU have lost their minds. This is a primary
not a tea party! You're absolutely right that Obama let his surrogates accuse the Clintons of racism, and his staff even circulated a talking paper to the news departments but now that race-baiting has come back to bite him in the ass, Hillary is supposed to bail him out?! I mean, WTF?
Even if she were dumb enough to try, they'd turn around and use whatever she said against her. Don't you know she was supposed to drop out after Feb. 5th because Obama had WON, dammit.
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BlackVelvet04 Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sat Mar-15-08 05:13 PM
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2. Here is a reply I made on a thread about clinton supporters defending Obama
why in the world would I stand up and defend a man I think

is a complete fake? And after the swiftboating of Hillary right here on this forum I think it takes a hell of a lot of gall to ask us to defend Obama. When have any Obama supporters EVER stood up for Hillary? She has been accused of being the one to bring out all this stuff about Obama when it was OBVIOUS to anyone with half a brain it was the rightwing doing it.
She's been called a bitch, a c**t, a rightwinger, and I don't even remember what else.

We TOLD YOU GUYS this was going to happen, but NO you knew better. We also TOLD you that you were going to need the Hillary Supporters, but NO you and your perfect candidate had it covered and told us to take a hike.

It's a damn messy bed that has been made....enjoy laying in it.

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libbygurl Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sat Mar-15-08 06:20 PM
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12. Perfectly said! Did anyone muster a reply to that? LOL. nt
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BlackVelvet04 Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sat Mar-15-08 06:43 PM
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17. Yeah, but I don't remember what it was. Most of their
answers are so inconsequential I don't remember them long.

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rodeodance Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sat Mar-15-08 06:43 PM
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16. you did grand. good for you.
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jillan Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sat Mar-15-08 07:22 PM
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27. excellent!
High five!
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DemBones DemBones Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sat Mar-15-08 07:33 PM
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34. great post!

:kick:
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Clinton Crusader Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sat Mar-15-08 05:27 PM
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3. WTF? This has got to be a joke.
Obamababies want US to support HIM? Come on, you gotta be kidding? After the way we've been treated? After the way HILLARY'S been treated??
:wtf:

Ive seen delusional people in my life, but these bots bring it to a whole new level I've never experienced before.
:rofl:
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golddigger Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sat Mar-15-08 06:02 PM
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7. Yeah, I was on that thread. I said to myself WTF! I also posted
if he can't defend himself he has no business running for president. I can't keep up with their spin any longer. Now they want more debates to diffuse the Wright controversy. Their heads are spinning so fast it's like the exorcist movie. I was going to post more but BV had it covered.:argh:
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judaspriestess Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sat Mar-15-08 05:34 PM
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4. this is not the first time I have read this
about a month ago I read on here that there was bombshell news being held back about obama and the Clintons knew about it.

Some ridiculous obama poster said Hillary should warn Obama about the impending bombshell.

Like its her responsibility to babysit him. I don't know if this was the big bombshell or not. I feel there are alot more skeletons in his closet that are going to get exposed.

How moronic is that.
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BlackVelvet04 Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sat Mar-15-08 05:54 PM
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6. Guess he needs a momma to take care of him.... n/t
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golddigger Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sat Mar-15-08 06:13 PM
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9. Yep, and they don't even realize how hypocritical they sound. F@#k them
it's his mess let him take care of it. I don't want this man anywhere near the White House.
They have abuse us, battered us, right-wing slimed us and now they want unity when their man is in trouble? The hell with them. I'm so frigging pissed I can't even write no more.

Rant off.:grr: :nuke: :mad:
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BlackVelvet04 Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sat Mar-15-08 06:44 PM
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18. I know.....
I almost told them to kiss my little white ass, but thought better of it.

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rodeodance Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sat Mar-15-08 07:22 PM
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28. i recall something about a bombshell a while ago-but susposedly it was
hillary who had the goods on obama. it was one of those where they all went wild. no one knew what the bombshell was--it was all speculation.
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anamandujano Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sat Mar-15-08 10:11 PM
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44. If there was a bombshell (well, now we see there are a few), why
would Hillary need to warn him. He knows his potential bombshells better than she does.

Another point, if the dumb@ss had even a tiny bit of foresight, he would have been more magnanimous toward the Clintons, stopped the race baiting immediately, spoke up at any opportunity, JUST FOR THE SIMPLE REASON THAT he knew she might be of some assistance later (like now for instance) to stand at his side and support him against these (well-deserved) attacks (read Karma.)

So freaking ridiculous.
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anamandujano Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sat Mar-15-08 10:35 PM
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48. I'm starting a thread with these two points.
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zabet Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sat Mar-15-08 05:38 PM
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5. Let'em want in one hand
and shit in the other and see
which one gets full first.
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goldcanyonaz Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sat Mar-15-08 06:04 PM
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8. LOL! Love when you post that.
:rofl:
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jillan Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sat Mar-15-08 07:23 PM
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29. hehe!
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XanaDUer Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sat Mar-15-08 06:14 PM
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10. Good question
Edited on Sat Mar-15-08 06:36 PM by XanaDUer
If I remember correctly, a few weeks ago they were in a snit about some SNL skit or something about him having to call her for advice. That pissed them off.

So, now, HRC is supposed to come in and rescue him? He is a grown man, and why would he need a mere female to come in, like his Mommy, to save him from himself?

BTW-I mean this towards his supporters who feel that-I have no evidence the BO wants HRC to come in for him. As stated elsewhere, this is politics, not a tea party! :crazy:

Crazy, man, crazy...

EDIT: Typo
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libbygurl Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sat Mar-15-08 06:32 PM
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13. These O supporters are something else. What does that say about his leadership qualities,
...if he needs to be bailed out of his own messes? Apparently, the hilarious irony of their complaints never occurs to them, the 'irony-deficient'.
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XanaDUer Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sat Mar-15-08 06:34 PM
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15. They'd better brace for worse than this
if this throws him off his cadence, what will happen when the Swiftboaters swim in?
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doeadeer Donating Member (49 posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sat Mar-15-08 07:16 PM
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24. Hillary Mommy
But, you know, I've long suspected that he does see her like a mommy.

You know a love-hate relationship.

But in the end, she will give way, because he's a guy and she's a gal and gals give way to guys because that's what gals do. (Sound at all familar? Like the last month of political articles and web pages?)

Also she should bandage his boo-boos when needed.
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libbygurl Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sat Mar-15-08 06:17 PM
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11. He made his own mess, and when did he ever defend HRC against all the sexist remarks she's had to ..
...endure this primary season? Pathetically hilarious, because they're wanting to lay the blame (again, of course!) on Hillary for his self-made problems.

These peeps are beyond delusional. Methinks they'll have to add a new category to the DSM-IV (or whatever edition the Diagnostic and Statistical Manual for Mental Disorders is now) to describe these people.
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rodeodance Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sat Mar-15-08 06:34 PM
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14. i just saw that!! geech!!!!!!!!
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Sadie5 Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sat Mar-15-08 06:54 PM
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19. Don't know about this
but in the thread I just posted from the Indy Star one of the posters said, "wait till they find out about William Ayer. anyone know who william Ayer is?
As for bailing out Mr.Perfect:Hillary owes him nothing. Do I smell fear?
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libbygurl Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sat Mar-15-08 06:56 PM
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20. With regard to BO? Nope, know nothing. May have to go to my friend, Google, for help.
nt
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Sadie5 Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sat Mar-15-08 07:05 PM
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22. Found it
http://www.taylormarsh.com/archives_view.php?id=27075

Obama's Ayers and Dorhn relationship is something more than a few people have been trying to nail down for weeks. You can bet the Republicans and their 527s will do just that. I don't blame them either. This goes well beyond the Rezko connection. In the bad judgment file, any association whatsoever with a domestic terrorist who actively tried to thwart an air war during the Vietnam war, calls our Marines "terrorists," while also being unrepentant about it, shows a lack of seriousness I will never accept. John McCain's personal disgust at this connection between Obama and Ayers will bring out a righteous fury that will likely pit the War Hero against the Terrorist's Friend, which is just one angle Obama's opponents will use.

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libbygurl Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sat Mar-15-08 07:30 PM
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32. Thank you very much! The association with these 70s violent terrorists will certainly...
...be played up and exploited by the GOP - red meat to these guys! T Marsh outlines the dangers of having O as the nom so plainly here, when the Dems are going to run against Vietnam War hero McCain, and the Weather Underground used to call marines 'terrorists'. Ugh. While these associations may not matter to much to liberals in the Democratic party, this story is just a thick, juicy cut of steak waiting to be torn into by the expert Swiftboaters in the GOP!

But the O supporters refuse to see this. So much for BO's electability in the GE!
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judaspriestess Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sat Mar-15-08 07:01 PM
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21. here is some articles I found on Ayers
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libbygurl Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sat Mar-15-08 07:25 PM
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30. Thanks so much. Gawd, these will really sink him in the GE if he's the nom!
As Taylor Marsh puts it so clearly:

Perception is reality in politics. The primary season will have no resemblance to the general election, trust me. It may not be right to dredge up the past and link Obama with Ayers, but if you doubt the Republicans will do it you've not been paying attention to American politics over the last twenty years. Between Tony Rezko, Obama's financial godfather, who is set to go on trial soon (so who knows what will hit), and William Ayers, the American people are going to be asked to make an assessment about Barack Obama's judgment to be president and commander in chief. If past is prologue, the Republicans are set to make Ayers Barack Obama's Wille Horton. But evidently, that's a gamble many Democrats are willing to take.


This is even without the J Wright controversy. I do think Taylor Marsh has hit the nail on the head with this.
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Sadie5 Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sat Mar-15-08 07:35 PM
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35. What i see is
Edited on Sat Mar-15-08 07:36 PM by Demo5
they are terrorist and I think Mccain will trounce O with it. Seems like they were famous for bombing gov sites in protest to the Viet Nam war. This man Ayers is a college proffessor which is how O knows him + they donated money to his campain. They will try to say O never knew these amazing facts about his best pals.
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doeadeer Donating Member (49 posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sat Mar-15-08 07:19 PM
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25. William Ayer
Yep, been all over the net, just google.

Is this an old post?

Former weatherman, like he bombed things. He and his girlfriend are free because of legal technicalities. Live in Chicago. Donated $200 to Obama. Not a big deal, one can't always know who donates.

BUT it has been suggested that they also attended more than one fund raiser for him too. Or at least one. Details not clear yet.

Of course, naturally, if it escalates he will claim he never knew who they were.

They are rather famous, actually.
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libbygurl Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sat Mar-15-08 07:32 PM
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33. He has got a lot of distancing to do with many folks, hey?
Yup, has this story not made it to the MSM yet? GOP waiting for the GE to spring it on BO, if he's the nom?
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rodeodance Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sat Mar-15-08 08:17 PM
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39. I do not.
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BlackVelvet04 Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sat Mar-15-08 08:26 PM
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42. A homegrown terrorist who Obama has been a pal of.
Weather Underground, I think???
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libbygurl Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sat Mar-15-08 08:30 PM
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43. Yup. Judaspriestess and Demo5 posted links upthread.
Edited on Sat Mar-15-08 08:30 PM by libbygurl
More big bombs for the GOP to use, just waiting to be detonated.
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doeadeer Donating Member (49 posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sat Mar-15-08 07:09 PM
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23. Really?!?
Hmmm.

Hmmm.

I'm trying.

But, you know, I can't think of one single reason why she should.
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rodeodance Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sat Mar-15-08 07:20 PM
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26. Welcome to HRC group.
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jillan Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sat Mar-15-08 07:29 PM
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31. Not only SC but it was only last week when his campaign was out for Hillary's blood over Ferraro.
I don't know about the rest of you, but there is a vindictive part of me that is glad the Olbermann had to report on Rev Wright 2 days after his special comment.
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libbygurl Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sat Mar-15-08 07:36 PM
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36. Heh-heh. Karma, you know. Hope it only snowballs. I know, I'm so bad.
:evilgrin:
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Sadie5 Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sat Mar-15-08 08:08 PM
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38. KO sucks
And I have a feeling he is going to be sorry he gave his little speech on Hillary and how she needs to drop out so O can be the next prez. Found this web site that really throws dirt at Obama.


http://wordpress.com/tag/farrakhan/





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libbygurl Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sat Mar-15-08 08:24 PM
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40. Wow, followed the link there to the Viral Email Proj.-looks like a vicious right-wing website!
Of course, the O camp is blaming Hillary for all these attacks on him. They haven't learned yet that the right-wing are very clever, insidious and stealthy operators. Again shows their naivete about real politics, and don't know what has really been happening for some fifteen years now. The Clintons know how these RW wackos work!

I really see no future for O's candidacy after this. Dems are going to be royally screwed if he's the nom, and it was the Dems' presidential race to lose.

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doeadeer Donating Member (49 posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sun Mar-16-08 06:45 AM
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52. He's going to be sorry he turned down and rediculed the VP slot
Which I thought was sincerely offered by Hillary. And mentioned by Bill again later.

After all they know the right wing tactics and were fully well-aware of how Obama's minister/church might play. I hasn't been a secret on the Net, only fairly secret on TV. And other problems.

Now I don't think he could pay them to get it.

The redicule was over the top.
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kerstin Donating Member (519 posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sat Mar-15-08 08:07 PM
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37. I'm wondering if that's not a coincidence,
what with the animosity between Bill O'Reilly and KO.

(It was Fox that first posted the tape, wasn't it?)

Just a thought.:freak:
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kerstin Donating Member (519 posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sat Mar-15-08 08:26 PM
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41. Hillary is supposed to bail out Obama?
Edited on Sat Mar-15-08 08:31 PM by kerstin
After this?: "Bill did us just like he did Monica Lewinsky. He was ridin’ dirty." (pelvic thrust emoticon)

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qnr Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sat Mar-15-08 10:13 PM
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45. I'd be careful about the "bail Obama out" - knowing our friends and acquaintances
on the other side, they'll probably accuse us of racism, saying we're talking about jail because he's an AA man.

Isn't the world weird when thoughts like that occur to you when you're thinking of fellow progressives?
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anamandujano Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sat Mar-15-08 10:31 PM
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47. One can twist any word to make it appear racist (which is what they've been doing.)
This is a simple cliche that has been in use forever.

It's just like reading Freud. You can't speak without feeling a little bit weird.

OMG! What did I just say? :evilgrin:
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qnr Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sat Mar-15-08 10:46 PM
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51. Even triskaidekaphobia ? :) n/t
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robbedvoter Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sat Mar-15-08 10:22 PM
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46. Ya mean, Hillary with her - ahem - periodical downs and akin to David Duke/Apartheid
should defend her wittle victim? Ya mean, MO is not gonna scratch Bill's eyes out anymore? And would it even be acceptable for BO to receive support from a David Duke soul mate? :shrug:
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qnr Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sat Mar-15-08 10:35 PM
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49. Good point, would it be acceptable in their eyes? n/t
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Hoof Hearted Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sat Mar-15-08 10:45 PM
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50. You forgot the RICH, privilidged white lady who "controls" America.
What's MIND BLOWING to me are the stoooopid O supporters who think this is "no big deal."
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