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rodeodance Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sat Mar-15-08 08:25 PM
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blaming Hillary camp for this mess!
this is the 2nd one I just in a matter of minutes!



Forum Name General Discussion: Primaries
Topic subject Novak was right (Wright) about the machinations of the Clinton slime machine
Topic URL http://www.democraticunderground.com/discuss/duboard.php?az=view_all&address=132x5094460#5094460
5094460, Novak was right (Wright) about the machinations of the Clinton slime machine
Posted by Sensitivity on Sat Mar-15-08 12:09 PM

Folks what is happening is not accidental. Too much money is being paid to make it happen for accidents to be tolerated.

The Clinton campaign is most likely behind the pushing of each of these recent flamebait stories that tend to create doubt and fear about the Obama candidacy. IMHO it is only a tactic of the Penn propaganda strategy to make it appear to be Republican driven. The are counting on the naivete of the majority of the audience for this crap.

The timing does not benefit the Republicans and even if RW channels have to be used to push these stories it is NOT the McCain campaign that benefits at this time.

Last November people pooh-poohed Novak column that stated"


Agents of Sen. Hillary Clinton are spreading the word in Democratic circles that she has scandalous information about her principal opponent for the party's presidential nomination, Sen. Barack Obama, but has decided not to use it.


http://www.realclearpolitics.com/articles/2007/11/clinton_has_dirt_on_obama_mcca.html


I guess the pressure to serve the public with important truths about "importance of being Black" and "being in the Black Church" etc became to hard to resist.
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BlackVelvet04 Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sat Mar-15-08 08:31 PM
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1. I just replied to that thread. n/t
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qnr Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sat Mar-15-08 08:34 PM
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2. Um yeah. The Clinton camp paid Obama to attend for twenty years, then
paid TUCC to make DVDs of Wright's (Mr.? Dr.? Reverend?) sermons.
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libbygurl Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sat Mar-15-08 08:36 PM
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4. Good one! LOL! nt
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qnr Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sat Mar-15-08 08:45 PM
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6. It amazes me that they can't see just how ludicrous these claims are n/t
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libbygurl Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sat Mar-15-08 08:49 PM
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7. Speaks to their fear and desperation, methinks. Immature brats just getting a dose of reality. nt
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qnr Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sat Mar-15-08 08:54 PM
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8. I suppose. Disheartening though, I thought that we'd learned more n/t
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qnr Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sat Mar-15-08 08:44 PM
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5. oops - talking to myself... self-delete n/t
Edited on Sat Mar-15-08 08:45 PM by qnr
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polmaven Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sat Mar-15-08 09:05 PM
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11. I have always found
that when I talk to myself I at least am assured that I have an intelligent audience! :hi:
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qnr Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sat Mar-15-08 09:08 PM
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12. Valid point - however, I do have a tendency to finish my own sentences
:) :hi:
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libbygurl Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sat Mar-15-08 08:35 PM
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3. Of course, it's all Hillary's doing. Good God. Have you seen this, though - ?
http://husaria.wordpress.com/2008/03/14/anti-obama-viral-email-project/

That's where all the anti-O emails have come from. (Thanks to Demo5 for that info/link.)

But of course, to the O peeps, everything anti-O is automatically from Hillary.

I really, really, really want his candidacy to end now, just to put a stop to these totally out-of-control brats who support him.
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qnr Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sat Mar-15-08 08:58 PM
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9. I've never received any Obama-specific emails, pro or con. Of course, I'm a grumpy
old coot that doesn't email people except in a professional manner (things related to my job as a Linux developer and whatnot).
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libbygurl Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sat Mar-15-08 09:04 PM
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10. Neither have I, thank heavens. I'm not sure who has, but I keep reading about them. Perhaps...
...it's rightwingers sending them to other rightwingers? Could some of them be here on DU, too?

Hmmmmm.....
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polmaven Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sat Mar-15-08 09:09 PM
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13. I have received that ridiculous
e-mail about his Muslim upbringing, and how he refuses to salute the flag, and "do you want this kind of person". It really is a disgusting piece of crap.
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qnr Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sat Mar-15-08 09:28 PM
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17. I've only seen it online. I've put a lot of effort into my spam filters over
the years - whatever makes it though spamcop.net still has to go through my defenses :) - and there's still the point that I'm anti-social, so I'm not on a lot of personal mailing lists heheh
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polmaven Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sun Mar-16-08 05:07 PM
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28. Unfortunately, spam filters don't work
well when it is relatives or, for that matter, anyone from whom you regularly open e-mail, that are sending the crap.:crazy:
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qnr Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sat Mar-15-08 09:12 PM
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14. As far as that goes, I know for a fact that some are. I have Republican, and Ron Paul associates
Edited on Sat Mar-15-08 09:13 PM by qnr
that have been quite free in telling me how they* infiltrate progressive boards. I don't know the scope, could be tiny, but they're certainly here (these are just people that I work with online, politics is nowhere near a primary concern when we're working things out, but thoughts flow freely none-the-less).

Edit: * "they" in a general, not a personal sense.
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NCarolinawoman Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sat Mar-15-08 09:24 PM
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15. Before the primary season, almost all Democrats knew about the
ongoing joke that Republicans blamed anything and everything on the Clintons. Bush's mistakes were never his own --it was always the Clntons fault!!!

Now these so-called Democrats are doing the same thing. :dunce: :dunce: :dunce: They don't realize how absolutely ridiculous they look. :silly: :silly::dunce: :dunce:
:dunce: :silly: :dunce: :silly: :silly: :dunce: :dunce: :dunce: :dunce:

Shame on you, Hillary! Shame on you, Bill! You didn't warn Barack that the American people might view his minister as a racist blow-hard! You should have left everything and driven to Chicago to warn Barack!!! It's all your fault!! Shame! :rofl:
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qnr Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sat Mar-15-08 09:26 PM
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16. heheheh. Yup, sounds pretty darned reasonable to me *cough* n/t
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DemBones DemBones Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sat Mar-15-08 09:40 PM
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19. and they should have driven there twenty years ago, done an

early intervention.

:rofl:

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anamandujano Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sat Mar-15-08 09:43 PM
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21. Ok, I want to see this comment on one of their stupid threads. TIA
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anamandujano Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sat Mar-15-08 09:36 PM
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18. We have to make sure they get zip traction on this.
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rodeodance Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sat Mar-15-08 10:14 PM
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22. we can comment---but--guess i am feeling a bit helpless-the believe what
they want-and work themselves up into a tizzy!!
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judaspriestess Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sat Mar-15-08 09:41 PM
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20. I'm sure they will be blaming the crucification of Christ on the
Clinton's, global warming, el nino, the locust, the plague and everything else they can blame them with.

they are "the mist"
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goldcanyonaz Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sat Mar-15-08 10:19 PM
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23. Katrina too, remember she didn't cry? So says Jessie Jackson Jr.
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judaspriestess Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sun Mar-16-08 01:05 AM
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26. yup and I guess now aids
I don't even think they are delusional they are just evil
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doeadeer Donating Member (49 posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sat Mar-15-08 10:24 PM
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24. How to Respond
What else is new? That rumor she had something on him is about a year old and was circulated by Republicans.

How do you reply?

SHE DIDN'T GO TO HIS CHURCH, HE DID.

Put the responsibility where it belongs.

YOU REALLY THINK HILLARY HAS TIES WITH FOX NEWS?

You can't prove she didn't have something with the story coming out, but it was going to come out anyway. Better now that right after the convention. All the Republican pundits new it.

They've been talking about it on Fox News for about a month at least.

YOU JUST CAN'T ACCEPT HE LIES.

Whatever. ;-)
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rodeodance Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sun Mar-16-08 01:23 AM
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27. I recall now it was Novak. "SHE DIDN'T GO TO HIS CHURCH, HE DID." I like it-really thanks
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doeadeer Donating Member (49 posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sat Mar-15-08 10:30 PM
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25. PS - Post a comment to the news source
It's also not a bad idea to post a comment to the news source site. Not all have places for it, but lots do. I've been doing it for weeks. Most all are free accounts you set up quickly.

But you know that, right?

Hasn't Obama had some tag line about responbility in his campaign?

I mean this "it's all Hillary's fault" is really tired and worn out.

HE WENT TO THAT CHURCH, IT WAS AND IS HIS RESPONSBILITY.

Hehehehe. Sometimes you just gotta wonder what they think people will buy.
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