Clinton now does better against McCain than 0bama in the rcp poll average

[jackson_dem]

0bama once outperformed her by almost 10% back in the halcyon days when he was completely new.

Averages: McCain 46.3, Clinton 45.8; McCain 45.8, Obama 44.8

Clinton does only 0.5 better but what is important is the trend. If 0bama's electability numbers continue to fade by the time of the convention the superdelegates will have no choice but to realize what we know: Clinton can win, 0bama is a likely loser.

[lachattefolle]

1. The newest polls are probably sampling some folks who don't realize

that not only was Wright Obama's preacher, but that he stayed with the church for 20 years, dedicated books to the guy and praised him as his mentor. I predict this is going to create any even larger backlash once more of the story filters out. If video of Obama clapping along to a hatefest sermon surfaces, I'll take back what I said in a previous thread about HRC not getting the nomination. The situation is already incendiary and that would be tossing a match to the pile of oiled rags.

[UALRBSofL]

2. Seems to me Obama is losing the Reagan Democrat vote

It will be tough for him to get that back.

[lachattefolle]

3. Between him and his supporters, they've alienated most of the

Democratic voting blocks except for the so-called latte drinking East and West Coast uberliberals and the AA and youth voters. He's dismissed the accomplishments of the Baby Boomers, and his supporters mock old people (in DUP one poster just referred to them as the "blue hairs"), poor people, and less school educated people (I deliberately included school because obviously a fool can graduate college or we wouldn't have so many college grads running around yakking their jaws and pissing off people right and left.
I agree with you that he's losing the Reagan Democrat vote. He's affirming the commonly held belief amongst the general voting population that the Democratic Party is inhabited almost exclusively by elitist, America hating, reverse racists. In addition, he's managed to alienate half the loyal Dem base FROM HRC and the other half from himself. He's had some help along the way, but basically he's been playing the part of divider from the beginning of the primary season.

[jackson_dem]

4. He may be losing his group on the youth vote as well. He is losing them by 10 points in PA

All he has left in PA is overwhelming black support and presumably latte liberals, although polls are rarely broken down by income except for exit polls so I don't know for sure.

[lachattefolle]

5. Thanks, I had no idea he was starting to lose amongst the youth.

Maybe they didn't appreciate his pastor's sermons either. As for the much vaunted advantage Obama enjoys with richer, higher educated voters, isn't it only by 5% or so, before the Wright story broke?

[jackson_dem]

6. It depends on the state

That happens is his best group is always the richest voters and his worst group is always the poorest group. Just like a rethug his vote total climbs as you go up the economic ladder. This does not mean he always wins them but that they are a key part of his coalition. If he wins a state he wins them big, if he loses a state he may win them narrowly or even lose them but they are always his best income group. This isn't surprising. Folks who are struggling to make end's meet need to go with a proven quantity, not a good speechmaker with no record of producing results. The latte crowd can afford to take a gamble on slogans; workings folks can't.

[lachattefolle]

8. Well, I could be lumped in with the latte crowd as could many of my

family and friends and not one of us is voting for Obama. I require some solutions and not just airy rhetoric. Maybe because I came from one of those "downscale, undereducated white families" his supporters are always dissing?:shrug:

[doeadeer]

11. Yes, something like that. It was never that big a lead.

After, all I am higher educated. :-) And I bet they are dumping him too, especially as more lies about Rezko come out also.

[bluemom]

7. Obama is toxic

I've been reading here and at MyDD and I really can't believe the Obama's supporters don't get it-
They believe Rev. Wright's sermons have nothing offensive in them like " God Damn America".
They forget that after 9/11, patriotism was the Big Deal. It rallied a large part of the population behind going to war in Afghanistan, and then, on totally bogus reasoning, into going into Iraq. Yes, it's 5 years later and people have soured on Iraq-but scratch the surface, and that patriotism thing is still strong. We're at war, remember?

In the same "feeling", the Patriot Act was passed, our liberties curtailed, etc.,etc. This anti-American thing is a big deal in an election.

So is the black racism. It angers me to hear Democrats say, well they are justified to feel this way. Yes, they are- but it's still racism and it targets the majority of the voting population. In an election, a candidate has to appear to be squeaky clean. Sure Hillary isn't perfect- but she would Never associate herself with these kinds of remarks.
I think in the GE it's political suicide. But if that is pointed out, then Obama's supporters say-you're a Republican troll you're not a Democrat, Obama isn't his preacher,etc,etc.
I can't believe how blind to this they are.

Hopefully PA will step up to the plate and vote Clinton.

[kikiek]

9. Good. Go Hillary! He is going to sink.

[doeadeer]

10. This poll says she already ahead of McCain.

http://www.boston.com/news/politics/politicalintelligence/2008/03/clinton_obama_a_1.html

Polls all over the place right now, though.

[jackson_dem]

12. The OP is about the poll average

That is a good thing to use because it filters out outliers and differences between various firms. The trend is clear: Clinton holding steady against McCain, Obama fading rapidly.