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FloridaJudy Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed Apr-11-07 04:03 AM
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Here's a Weird Situation
Very long story.

Several years ago, my drinking got way out of hand, and I was reported as an impaired professional. I entered a monitoring program to allow me to keep my license; I have been clean and sober ever since. Approximately 2 years ago, a colleague accused me of drinking on the job. I insisted on having a BAL (blood alcohol level) drawn there and then, which was negative. My monitoring program also asked me to take a new test called an "EtG" which was supposed to be even more sensitive. Since I knew I hadn't had a drink for well over a year, I said "Fine", expecting it would be negative as well. To my complete surprise and horror, it was positive. I lost my job, my license was suspended, and I had to enter residential treatment for over 6 months. My monitoring program still has not cleared me to return to work. My house was foreclosed on, and I am rapidly exhausting my retirement savings.

About nine months ago, an article appeared on the front page of the Wall Street Journal describing a large number of problems with the EtG test; it seems the test is so sensitive it could turn positive in response to exposure to minuscule amounts of alcohol in the environment (from cleaning products, cosmetics, "gasahol" fumes, etc.), and a considerable number of people who hadn't been drinking had been accused - like me - of having relapsed. In fact, SAMHSA (the federal Substance Abuse and Mental Health Services Administration) held hearings on the issue, and have issued an advisory that the test is unreliable. Despite this, my monitoring program continues to use it routinely.

I found and on-line support group for others like myself who had been unjustly "convicted" of relapse, merely on the results of this test. They have been a considerable source of support for me. We have, in fact, initiated a class action law suit against the companies that aggressively marketed the EtG, despite virtually no research into its accuracy.

Recently, the group was infiltrated by a Troll, a creep who accused us of being a whiny bunch of drunks who lied about our continued drinking. When we pointed him toward the documents we had accumulated showing the test was seriously flawed, he became incoherently foul-mouthed and abusive, sending numerous threatening IM's to members of the group. The group's moderator (who is a cyber maven) traced him through his ISP. It turns out he is a practicing member of a facility whose website claims he works as a "consultant" to the very agency responsible for monitoring me!

Clearly this is someone who has absolutely NO business treating recovering alcoholics and addicts. Even if he is sincerely convinced of the accuracy of the test, his behavior toward members of the support group demonstrates gross unprofessionalism at least, and possible criminal conduct. Threatening people over the Internet was recently made a crime in the state of Florida.

So...how do I let the folks monitoring me know they have a raving lunatic advising them? I'm already in their books as a Bad Alcoholic, due to that positive test; it may just be written off as sour grapes. I've already asked the moderator to forward copies of his posts and IM/s to the licensing board.

But believe me, I never thought this life-long liberal would ever be grateful to the Wall Street Journal!

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Why Syzygy Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed Apr-11-07 11:26 AM
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1. One of my BACs
while in outpatient treatment for 'depression' gave a false positive. It was at about .5 . an impossibility given the circumstances. I had been in the program all day that day and even worked individually with one of the counselors. The doctor told me all addicts lie, would not listen, discharged me and sent me back to work. I had not had a drink in about three months. Later a charge nurse at the same hospital told me, "oh that happens sometimes"! No biggie I guess.

What happened to you is outrageous. I know of a dentist who went to 30 day treatment and I assume is under some sort of moderation. When she returned to her practice, she resumed drinking immediately. Don't know the latest on that saga.

Is there an appeal process? Can you see a medical professional to substantiate your health status?
It's good that you found others and are taking steps to prevent this from happening to others.
Best of fortune with that.

It is still amazing how many people assume they are "anonymous" online. They should certainly suffer the same consequences for threats on the internet as they would if done in 'RL'.
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Kajsa Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed Apr-11-07 09:47 PM
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2. Judy, that is outrageous.

I hope they can out this bastard and get him canned.
He sounds like he could use some psychological counseling, himself.

It's scary that a false positive result can cause so much damage.
The word really needs to get out that this test is totally unreliable
and should not be used.

Hang in there.
I'm rooting for ya.

Please keep us posted on further developments.
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FloridaJudy Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed Apr-11-07 11:09 PM
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3. The Wall Street Journal Article
Edited on Wed Apr-11-07 11:33 PM by FloridaJudy
First appeared 8/12/06. The URL is:

http://online.wsj.com/article/SB115534928148134109.html

The SAMHSA advisory is here:

www.kap.samhsa.gov/products/manuals/advisory/pdfs/0609_biomarkers.pdf

Believe me, we've been trying like hell to get the word out about this test! If you Google "ethyl glucuronide" (the formal name for the EtG) what you first get are dozens of hits on commercial laboratories advertising the test, and exaggerating how accurate it is.

I'm beginning to wonder just how much money our Troll has invested in those labs....:eyes:

(updated due to misspelling)
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Kajsa Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu Apr-12-07 09:42 AM
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4. This reminds me of the time,
I had a landlord-tenant dispute in small claims court.

The judge was a landlord, herself!
Guess who won?

As in the case with this vicious Troll,

Conflict of interest ?!?

:crazy:
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