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wildeyed Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu May-24-07 09:34 AM
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Question for those of you who had kids in sobriety.
Did you tell them about your drug and alcohol addicted past and if so, at what age? Did you talk to them about drugs and alcohol and how their genetics might make them uniquely vulnerable to their ill effects? Did your kids ever drink or use, and if so, how did you handle it?

My kids are little, but I am already wondering about these things. I would hate for them to suffer the way I did. On the other hand, everyone chooses their own path at some point, and I do believe that the alcoholism was part of my karma and necessary to my emotional and spiritual growth.

Here is a terrifying article I turned up on line. So scary now that I understand the parents point of view.

http://www.nytimes.com/2005/02/06/magazine/06ADDICT.html?ex=1180152000&en=0a3a0c68a2f51ad5&ei=5070
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Why Syzygy Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu May-24-07 10:15 AM
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1. edited
Edited on Thu May-24-07 11:04 AM by votesomemore
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NMDemDist2 Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu May-24-07 10:15 AM
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2. what a powerful article.
I don't have kids, wild, so have no experience to offer you. but i have heard parents in the rooms talk about their kids 'growing up with the 12 steps' :shrug:
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Kajsa Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu May-24-07 12:09 PM
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3. I told my son about my alcoholism and AA

when he was 7 years old.
My son has autism,but he's very high functioning
and understands quite a bit of the adult world.

He was conceived and born in sobriety, so he's
learning " what it use to be like".

Karl is very understanding, his best friend's mom
is also in AA, so he sees recovery as a part of our lives.
I explained that there are other recovery programs out
there, and whatever keeps a person clean and sober, works.

Yep, he's grown up with the 12 steps
and he attends his church, regularly.

I worried when he starting drinking, ( he's 23)
but so far, I haven't seen any patterns that resemble
what I did.

I hope this helps.

:hi:
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KitchenWitch Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu May-24-07 02:30 PM
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4. My son has known for years about my addiction
Not specific details, but enough to know that he would not want to be around me when I am using. He is 16 years old and as far as I am aware has not ever drank alcohol, or done illegal drugs.

He did break his foot a couple of years ago, and Vicodin was part of the aftercare the surgery. He did admit that he "liked the feeling (of Vicodin) a little too much" and had me hold onto the medication and dole it out for him. I think that scared him.

His dad is also an alcoholic, so he is aware that he has a high chance of being addicted as well.

My daughter just knows that Mama goes to meetings, and comes home in a better mood.

:)
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Justpat Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu May-24-07 05:37 PM
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5. My daughter was four when I sobered up.

At the time my finances could best be described as abject poverty. I couldn't afford a
babysitter, so I used to take her to meetings and she would sit out by the coffee pot
coloring or reading (she could read at three)She managed to amuse herself very quietly
so no one ever complained about me bringing her to meetings.

She pretty much grew up with recovering people. When she was ten she started attending
Ala Teen meetings and she loved them for a few years. Then she didn't want to go anymore
and that was fine with me. She seemed to have assimilated whatever she needed to help her
understand the disease of alcoholism and why I went to meetings.

I was as honest as I could be right from the beginning about my problem and why I went
to meetings. Sometimes when I was upset or despairing of ever getting better it was
this wonderful little person who would tell me to go to a meeting so I could get better.

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ellisonz Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri May-25-07 04:15 PM
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6. Kids, don't do meth.
"I snorted the lines through a rolled-up dollar bill. The chemical burned my nasal passages, and my eyes watered. Whether the drug is sniffed, smoked, swallowed or injected, the body quickly absorbs methamphetamine. Once it reaches the circulatory system, it's a near-instant flume ride to the central nervous system. When it reached mine, I heard cacophonous music like a calliope and felt as if Roman candles had been lighted inside my skull. Methamphetamine triggers the brain's neurotransmitters, particularly dopamine, which spray like bullets from a gangster's tommy gun. The drug destroys the receptors and as a result may, over time, permanently reduce dopamine levels, sometimes leading to symptoms normally associated with Parkinson's disease like tremors and muscle twitches. Meth increases the heart rate and blood pressure and can cause irreversible damage to blood vessels in the brain, which can lead to strokes. It can also cause arrhythmia and cardiovascular collapse, possibly leading to death. But I felt fantastic -- supremely confident, euphoric.

After methamphetamine triggers the release of neurotransmitters, it blocks their reuptake back into their storage pouches, much as cocaine and other stimulants do. Unlike cocaine, however, meth also blocks the enzymes that help to break down invasive drugs, so the released chemicals float freely until they wear off. Methamphetamine remains active for 10 to 12 hours, compared with 45 minutes for cocaine. When the dawn began to seep through the cracked window blinds, I felt bleak, depleted and agitated. I went to bed and eventually slept for a full day, blowing off school.

I never touched methamphetamine again, but my roommate returned again and again to Michael the Mechanic's, and his meth run lasted for two weeks. Not long afterward, he moved away, and I lost touch with him. I later learned that after college, his life was defined by his drug abuse. There were voluntary and court-ordered rehabs, car crashes, a house that went up in flames when he fell asleep with a burning cigarette in his mouth, ambulance rides to emergency rooms after overdoses and accidents and incarcerations, both in hospitals and jails. He died on the eve of his 40th birthday.

When I told Nick cautionary stories like this and warned him about crystal, I thought that I might have some credibility. I have heard drug counselors tell parents of my generation to lie to our children about our past drug use. Famous athletes show up at school assemblies or on television and tell kids, ''Man, don't do this stuff, I almost died,'' and yet there they stand, diamonds, gold, multimillion-dollar salaries and fame. The words: I barely survived. The message: I survived, thrived and you can, too. Kids see that their parents turned out all right in spite of the drugs. So maybe I should have lied, and maybe I'll try lying to Daisy and Jasper. Nick, however, knew the truth. I don't know how much it mattered. Part of me feels solely responsible -- if only his mother and I had stayed together; if only she and I had lived in the same city after the divorce and had a joint-custody arrangement that was easier on him; if only I had set stricter limits; if only I had been more consistent. And yet I also sense that Nick's course was determined by his first puff of pot and sip of wine and sealed with the first hit of speed the summer before he began college."
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idgiehkt Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri May-25-07 09:04 PM
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7. I can talk about what my parents did
since I don't have kids. They never talked about it, they were teetotallers, and I became an alcoholic. It runs in my family so there is the genetic component. I had an ex whose family grew pot; one sibling in the family was totally straight and embarassed of her parent's habits, she started Methodist church on her own and because vice-pres of the youth group. She went off to Chapel Hill and is now a geologist in Alaska. The other sibling, my ex, went off to California and became addicted to meth and I don't know what he's doing now. He was given pot as an allowance when most kids were given money.

I think that parents do their best but I think that a) some kids are going to experiment no matter what, because it is in their nature b) unless the parents are completely careless, if they try to do the right thing their 'instructional talks' really can't be blamed for the development of addiction which is genetic/chemical. Also there are certain spiritual injuries that happen to kids like sexual abuse that set them up to have irreconcilable inner conflict and send them on a search for ways to numb out their feelings; my view is that all this concern would be better spent trying to educate parents on how to protect their children from predation both from strangers and family members and working on developing functional and healthy ways of relating in the family and as people so that children are not in such emotional pain by the time the drugs are offered to them that they actually take them.
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SPKrazy Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri May-25-07 09:22 PM
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8. Alcoholism and drug addiction
seem like less of a hurdle for me to tell my son about than another addiction that i've dealt with and attended meetings for.

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Lilith Velkor Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sun May-27-07 08:03 AM
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9. Here's the real scary part:
"One mother recommended a lockup school in Mexico, where she sent her daughter to live for two years. A police officer told me that I should send Nick to a boot camp where children, roused and shackled in the middle of the night, are taken by force."

:puke:
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RetroLounge Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed May-30-07 02:26 PM
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10. I had my 2 kids in sobriety
they are now 8 and 6, and they know dad doesn't drink and that he goes to "meetings."

But beyond that, they only know what they've asked.

They like meetings, because there are lots of people they know, and we have picnics and dinners and other outside events they get to go to.

RL
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idgiehkt Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sat Jun-02-07 12:41 AM
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11. thanks RL
it's good to know that there are meetings kids can attend, sometimes it is the parent in the room that needs the meeting the most.
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