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varkam Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sun Dec-02-07 09:51 PM
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On Being a Sex Addict
Sex addict can be a dirty word (or, I guess technically, words), even among us sex addicts. There are people who admit at meetings that they hate calling themselves that. I don't really blame them for having an aversion to it. People both older and wiser than myself tell about still going to AA or NA meetings and not being able to talk about their sex addiction, even with their sponsor. It's considered too gross or personal or something. I remember several months ago I went into a 12-step chatroom and starting talking with some of the other people there about working the steps (which was all I wanted - some guidance on working the steps) when someone asked me, point blank, what my poison was. I couldn't really lie, and so I said that I was a sex addict. I was then informed, of course, that I should leave. I did so, but it struck me as strange, since the fellowship that I attend (Sex Addicts Anonymous) uses the same 12-steps as AA and NA. Chalk it up to naivety.

But it isn't just among other addicts that we're rebuffed - society-at-large tends to revile most addicts and especially sex addicts. I noticed reading the paper the other day that someone writing a letter to the editor mentioned their battle with alcoholism, noting that they have been sober from drinking for fifteen years. My first thought was "Good for them!" which was quickly followed by musing what if the letter had been written by a sex addict who wrote "And I haven't used pornography/had sex with women I don't care about/hired prostitutes/etc for fifteen years!". I had to stifle a laugh. I even see people who have NA/AA key-chains, but I've yet to see anyone else carry an SAA key-chain (I do). In media or movies, sex addicts are at best portrayed as hapless perverts and, at worst, a bane on society.

It's a shame-based addiction. That much is fairly clear to me. It feeds on shame. We act out, and then we are so ashamed of ourselves that we have to act out again to numb the pain, and so on and so forth - creating nothing but pain and suffering for ourselves and others. "Society" generally doesn't want to help us - they'd rather see us incarcerated or worse. We're defective. Undesirable. Dangerous. Pathetic. Hell, some people don't even think there is such a thing as sex addiction. Maybe I even thought some of the same things, but that was before total strangers were able to relate to me the things that I thought in the deepest, darkest corners of my mind. Things that I had told no one were spilling out of the mouths of these...sex addicts. Since my first meeting, I knew I was home.

In the end, though, I think addictions are generally the same problem - they just have different manifestations. For whatever reason, sex was my escape route when it could of just as easily been alcohol or drugs. It's that reason that I'm thankful to have found a little niche right here - because I learn a lot just listening to you all, even though our problems are different, the addiction is the same.

So I will continue to wear my SAA key-chain and carry my sobriety medallion in the business card/picture holder in my wallet. I'm working on being less obtuse about my problems, but will remember that not everyone needs honesty from me (in other words, it's not as though I need to go shout "I am a sex addict!" on the street-corner...perish the thought). I figure that, generally speaking, I should be accepted or rejected by people on the basis of who I am - not someone I pretend to be. I've done enough pretending in my life.

And it might not go without saying, so everything here is not to denigrate the plight of alcoholics or drug addicts. Some of my very best friends are drug addicts, and I've seen some of the things that they've gone through - including pill sickness. I've grown up with an alcoholic father (who, coincidentally, might also be a sex addict) and I've seen what that does.

So thank you for reading, and thank you for the support and the kind regard that many of you have afforded me.
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KitchenWitch Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sun Dec-02-07 10:45 PM
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1. Thank you for sharing that.
I am very glad you are here with us, and are choosing to stay with recovery. I can't imagine what you must go through with all the shame attached to your particular "poison". You are not "undesirable" in my book. Just another addict seeking recovery. I would hate to think what it would be like if I were not seeking recovery.

I am sure a lot of the above did not make very much sense, but again, I am so glad you are here. I have learned a great deal about my recovery from you.
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NMDemDist2 Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Mon Dec-03-07 12:53 AM
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2. vark
I was a sex addict too, just didn't realize it until I got sober

I called it 'addictive relationships' but really it was using sex to make me feel better on demand just like I used alcohol and drugs

if you think it's bad as guy telling people you have a sex addiction, imagine the leers and looks I got as a woman admitting the same thing

but I worked the steps on it just like you are doing and I learned how to spot my 'triggers' when I was getting ready to dive in again and it got better

and now I can share my experience with other woman who come in to recovery not realizing that they have abused men and sex as badly as they did any drug

:hug:
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varkam Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Mon Dec-03-07 01:23 AM
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3. I have sort of an idea of what it is like for a woman.
Not being a woman myself, I can never truly understand, but a friend of mine in SAA is a woman and she's shared with me what it's been like for her. It's also been tough for her in recovery, because everyone else in the fellowship are men - so for better or for worse most people try to keep their distance.

Also, the societal expectation of women is that they be essentially chaste - so I can only imagine the increased effect that being a sex addict has for women as opposed to men. Such expectations, I think, end up doing a good deal of harm.

Thanks for sharing that :D It's nice to know I'm not the only depraved sex addict around here :rofl:
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NMDemDist2 Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Mon Dec-03-07 02:55 PM
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5. you are not alone vark
I could name several Lounge Denizens off the top of my head.........



nevermind




:yoiks:
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KitchenWitch Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue Dec-11-07 11:32 PM
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10. Are you "outing" me?
:blush:

J/K
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NMDemDist2 Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue Dec-11-07 11:40 PM
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11. ROFL
:hi:

ahh, no.....

but thanks for sharing









:hide:
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KitchenWitch Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue Dec-11-07 11:44 PM
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12. *snicker*
Now that THAT is out from under the bed.

:rofl:
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Kajsa Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Mon Dec-03-07 02:36 PM
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4. Thank you, Varkam, for
Your honesty and openness in sharing your story.

IMHO, it's criminal for others to look down on anyone
with addictions.

Someone once said to me, very early in my sobriety,
" It doesn't matter the color of the rock you use to
hit yourself in the head with."

Addiction is just that.
What we are addicted to doesn't justify anyone's
condemnation.

You are a great example of recovery in action, Varkam.

I'm so glad you are a big part of this great group.
:D :pals:

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varkam Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Mon Dec-03-07 10:18 PM
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6. Right back at you.
Thanks for being a part, too. You've helped give me hope when I couldn't find any in my immediate situation. :pals:
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SPKrazy Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu Dec-06-07 01:00 AM
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7. Thanks Varkam
very articulate description of the societal shame that surrounds the sex addict.

you're a good guy, you know that.

I'm glad you're here, and back.

I commend your honesty and openness and :patriot: salute you man!

:hug:
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varkam Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu Dec-06-07 10:54 PM
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8. I'm glad you're here, too, SPK.
You've helped me along considerably with your friendship. :pals:
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raccoon Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue Dec-11-07 12:22 PM
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9. Thanks for sharing, varkam.

It took a lot of courage to share that.
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Fire Walk With Me Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sun Feb-03-08 03:14 AM
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13. I am sorry that you were kicked out of -any- 12-step meeting. That's weird.
We all need the same medicine, we all have the same problem.

America is terrified of sex and more importantly, emotional intimacy. And emotions in general. And you know by experience, that which we do not inventory and use complete honesty upon, will kill us.

I'm sorry that you're in this catch-22. I myself have publicly aired my alcoholism at its worst, yet I know people in AA who have actually committed murder, who receive far better treatment and acceptance than I did for my issues. People are the kwaziest peoples. I hope that you find the right sponsor and get it all out of you, and lead the life that God has waiting for you. That you deserve.

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NMDemDist2 Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sun Feb-03-08 11:57 AM
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14. welcome to A/R Peake!
:hi:
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Fire Walk With Me Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sun Feb-03-08 02:58 PM
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15. Hello!
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Kajsa Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue Feb-05-08 02:36 PM
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16. Welcome,Peake.

It's good to see you here.

:hi:
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Fire Walk With Me Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue Feb-05-08 04:05 PM
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17. Hello!
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varkam Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu Feb-07-08 01:26 AM
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18. Thank you for your kind words.
When my addiction came out in a very public fashion, some of my closest friends (or at least people that I considered to be my closest friends) abandoned me. Ironically enough, these were people who dealt with addictions of their own whether it be drugs or alcohol (to be fair, though, it was another friend of mine who was also a drug addict that got me into recovery myself - I owe him my life).

Other people in SAA who also go to NA and AA echo similiar sentiments - they can't talk about their issues there, despite seeing symptoms of rampant sex addiction in others. I suppose it makes us uncomfortable to think about. Like I wrote, sex and sex addiction are things that are based heavily in shame. No one wants to admit that they have problems in these areas, but unfortunately that just tends to make them worse because it drives them underground.

In any event, thanks again and welcome to our humble little home :hi:
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Fire Walk With Me Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sun Feb-17-08 11:01 PM
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19. Your honesty here speaks to your ability to work on and surrender the issues.
I hope that it's a smooth road. :hi:
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