My jaw hurts I've been crying so much

[Taverner]

Not for any event but the PURELY CHEMICAL reaction of me going down on Morphine

Just because the drug has been prescribed doesn't make it any less painful to give up...

Suggestions?

[elleng]

1. Wish I could offer more, Taverner:

:hug:

[Tripod]

4. I hope you are OK

You post and then don't look at what I've written? What the fuck?

[Tripod]

2. I can't speak of morphine.

I'm an alcoholic in recovery, and I'm also involved in
AA, I went through similar feelings detoxing from alcohol. I wish I could say there is a magic cure. But, sometimes you have to just go through the with drawls. For me talking with someone who understands has been helpful to me. I also have found that doing something I enjoy will help to distract me. But, it's hard to do anything when the withdraws are so powerful. I guarantee that it will get better as time goes on, as long as you stay away from morphine, and don't substitute for another drug. You could try eating some foods you like, taking a walk, listening to music, or such. I feel for you, and hang in there. I wish you the very best. :hug: Maybe seeing a Doctor might be a good idea, some times there are other meds that can help with the withdraws.

[demosincebirth]

5. I think he insists on doing it him self. doctors are for sissies

[progree]

6. Where do you get the idea that he thinks doctors are for sissies?

I'm sorry, but I don't see anything in his question that indicates he doesn't want help from others, including doctors.

He may not believe in some prayer-answering favor-dispensing deity (http://www.democraticunderground.com/discuss/duboard.php?az=view_all&address=336x6018), but that is quite different from believing that doctors can help.

[demosincebirth]

8. Maybe you don''t know but every alkie or drug addict knows where every

detox center is located in his city. The majority are free. So there is no excuse for him doing it alone. My previous post to him I thought I didn't have to use the "sarcasm" dingy. But I guess I should have.

[progree]

9. I caught the sarcasm. Maybe you could be constructive instead

[demosincebirth]

10. Some just want sympathy.

I have been dealing with drunks and drug addicts for thirty years and have seen many like him. they always have an answer for anything and everything. He fits the pattern.

[progree]

11. Its you who want the attention with your negative unhelpful comments

I think its you that wants the attention with your immature negative comments. Or maybe you are mad that he kicked your rear end in the "What should I do if I want to go clean without a 'Higher Power' thread". http://www.democraticunderground.com/discuss/duboard.php?az=view_all&address=336x6018

This is a support group.

I also don't agree that going to detox is a no-brainer. Its not free unless you can't afford to pay, otherwise its expensive, at least in Minnesota. Also, if there are legal issues with how he got the morphine, that would be an added concern. Finally, if he is forced to get an evaluation and diagnosed as an addict, it will almost certainly rule him out for private individual market insurance, ruling out self-employment as a reasonable option. If he's forced into treatment by his employer or licensing board or government agency, that's potentially another big expense item if he doesn't have good insurance but has the income or resources to pay for it.

[Taverner]

12. Um, where do you think I'm doing it without a doctor?

I am working with pain mgmt specialists to get off this shit

Thanks for that bit of, um, uninformed comment tho...

[Rhiannon12866]

3. I agree with the previous suggestion about seeing a doctor.

If the morphine was prescribed, then your doctor may be able to prescribe something that will make the withdrawl less unbearable. I've been through withdrawl, too, and it is honestly the worst thing I've ever experienced. I'm also in recovery from alcohol, but was also addicted to codeine, prescribed because I was in pain. But because I took it for such a long time (I had three surgeries in seven years, the last one was successful), I was in a lot of pain for a long time, and experienced awful symptoms of withdrawl if I was late in taking it or wasn't able to get my prescription filled on time. After my last surgery, I was prescribed another type of pain med, for the short term, and that helped me get over the addiction. And I no longer needed the codeine because I was no longer in pain...

But my main experience with withdrawal is from alcohol. I've detoxed three times and it's awful, I know. Morphine may be very different, but withdrawl is tough to go through, whatever the substance. The first time, I went to my doctor and he prescribed a sedative, Ativan. That helped, and I would have been fine if I'd never started drinking again. The second time, he refused to just prescribe something and sent me to inpatient detox. I was in the hospital for six days and they also prescribed Ativan, along with some other things. I was pretty sedated the whole time, actually.

So, after that, I hesitated going back to my doctor again for the same thing, though he is aware of my experience. That time, I detoxed myself, just rode it out, and, of course, that as the toughest of all. In recovery, I've learned One Day at a Time, that I can go without a drink or a drug just for today. But in early recovery, sometimes it's just one hour or one minute at a time, and that sounds like that's what you're going through now.

Distracting yourself, as has been suggested, is what I did that last time, TV, computer, though concentrating on anything was tough. If you can get some help from your doctor, that's what I would suggest. Of course, substituting one drug for another is not the best idea, but your doctor may be able to prescribe something less addicting to help you for the short term.

My thoughts are with you, my friend. I've been there and know what you're going through. It's just the worst, but you can make it, if I did. I've got 19 months sober now, and I managed that One Day at a Time, starting with minutes and then hours. Please let us know how you're doing...

Rhiannon :hug:

[Kajsa]

7. Get your doctor, your primary physician or someone

very competent and knowledgeable about addiction to help
you.

I really wish I could help more.
You are going through a living hell I hope to
never revisit in my lifetime here.

Please let us know how you are doing, OK?

:hug: