Democratic Underground Latest Greatest Lobby Journals Search Options Help Login
Google

Question about Ms. magazine vs......

Printer-friendly format Printer-friendly format
Printer-friendly format Email this thread to a friend
Printer-friendly format Bookmark this thread
Home » Discuss » DU Groups » Women » Feminists Group Donate to DU
 
bliss_eternal Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Mon Jul-09-07 07:03 PM
Original message
Question about Ms. magazine vs......
for example, Bust.

Has Ms. ever featured anyone on their cover that is not a feminist? Anyone that isn't sure what a feminist is or if they are one or not?

I've been reading Bust for a while now. I'm getting a bit disheartened that a few of the women they've featured on their covers are reluctant to say they are a feminist. Some say they don't know if they are, some are reluctant to say they are, one even said she didn't know what the word meant.

:wtf:

:banghead:

Refresh | 0 Recommendations Printer Friendly | Permalink | Reply | Top
iverglas Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Mon Jul-09-07 07:32 PM
Response to Original message
1. going off on a tangent
I just had to share a favourite couple of anecdotes of mine. It's the juxtaposition ...

I was around in the 60s. As a kid, in the early 60s, I spent my time in the basement watching old movies and reading my mother's Chatelaine magazine. Chatelaine is a huge subject of its own. A venerable Canadian women's magazine -- you know, cooking, sewing ... -- run by the big Canadian magazine-publishing corp. Doris Anderson was given control of it on condition that she make money in two years. Eventually, she turned it into a mainstream feminist publication.

A brief intro:
http://www.collectionscanada.ca/women/002026-295-e.html
http://www.chatelaine.com/english/life/article.jsp?content=20070111_161635_5224
(The "Homemakers" magazine editor referred to at the second link was a driving force behind efforts to aid Afghan women for many years:
http://www.w4wafghan.ca/whats_new_monthly/sallys_book_veiled.htm)

Doris made me a feminist, and Doris is one of the reasons we got the Royal Commission on the Status of Women here, and the liberalization of various laws and protections through various others (e.g. family property law), and later the equivalent of your ERA in our 1982 constitution. And I got to go to university and law school and all the rest.

I got to meet her for a few seconds a few years ago at a book signing, and I told her.



Anyhow.

One day back probably in the early 70s, somebody asked Gloria Steinem why Ms. Magazine carried makeup ads and suchlike nonsense. Oh, Gloria said, why, women like to make themselves attractive, burble burble.

Around the same time, someone asked Doris Anderson the same question. Because we need the money, Doris said.








(looks suave there, but she had a voice like a crazy woman ...)

"If ever any editor or publisher in this country earned the epithet “legendary,” it was Doris Anderson, who died yesterday in Toronto at the age of eighty-five. Among the (still too few) women who have broken through glass ceilings to become power-brokers on their own, Anderson was unique. She was obviously propelled by an unshakeable faith in the dignity and competence of women, grounded in her own sense of self-esteem, but she ran as well on just the right level of piss and vinegar to wake up some of the boys in the backrooms and to give heart to a lot of women who hadn’t yet found the kind of courage she had."
http://www.breadnroses.ca/frontpage/?page_id=61


Anyhow, I've never actually heard of Bust, so I'll just wander off again now ...


Printer Friendly | Permalink | Reply | Top
 
bliss_eternal Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu Jul-19-07 01:14 AM
Response to Original message
2. Thank you, Twisty...!
Edited on Thu Jul-19-07 01:32 AM by bliss_eternal
I found this archived commentary on Bust on her site:

http://blog.iblamethepatriarchy.com/2006/09/28/busted/

She puts so much that I was 'confused' by with the magazine into words. So glad it isn't just me. ;)

Printer Friendly | Permalink | Reply | Top
 
DU AdBot (1000+ posts) Click to send private message to this author Click to view 
this author's profile Click to add 
this author to your buddy list Click to add 
this author to your Ignore list Fri Jan 17th 2025, 07:26 PM
Response to Original message
Advertisements [?]
 Top

Home » Discuss » DU Groups » Women » Feminists Group Donate to DU

Powered by DCForum+ Version 1.1 Copyright 1997-2002 DCScripts.com
Software has been extensively modified by the DU administrators


Important Notices: By participating on this discussion board, visitors agree to abide by the rules outlined on our Rules page. Messages posted on the Democratic Underground Discussion Forums are the opinions of the individuals who post them, and do not necessarily represent the opinions of Democratic Underground, LLC.

Home  |  Discussion Forums  |  Journals |  Store  |  Donate

About DU  |  Contact Us  |  Privacy Policy

Got a message for Democratic Underground? Click here to send us a message.

© 2001 - 2011 Democratic Underground, LLC