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efhmc Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed Jul-11-07 06:22 PM
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Well, I know that you think that all of us Texans are weird, rw, stupos, but
I would like to remind you of Ann Richards and Barbara Jordan and Molly Ivins (born in California, but spent most of her life in Texas) and, of course, me. Here, though is a thread that you might find interesting: ttp://www.democraticunderground.com/discuss/duboard.php?az=show_mesg&forum=180&topic_id=44677&mesg_id=44699

It is about a candidate who is "pro-life" and anti-gay. The level of support for Watts is slim (at least on the Texas DU site) or none and it is because of his support for "pro-life" and anti-gay stand. Why, oh why, does this guy think that he is a Democrat?
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ismnotwasm Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed Jul-11-07 06:34 PM
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1. Trying to hang on to the old guard?
Back when Democrats backed slavery? I dunno. If his support is slim because of his forced birth, or pro-slavery--(I liked that term)--as well as the mental illness of homophobia, I have no idea why he inflicts these noxious infections on Democrats. My condolences for your state. It's sad and sick to my way of thinking, and NOT limited to Texas. I live in Washington state, and we have our share of diseased political minds as well.
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efhmc Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed Jul-11-07 09:59 PM
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2. This guy can raise money and that seems to be enough for
some folks. I also liked the pro-slavery term, although it might offend those people who have had actual physical enslavement in their background. Contolling women throught their reproductive organs is a form of oppression that can be linked to mental and physical capture.
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efhmc Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu Jul-12-07 10:40 PM
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4. Here is a response, I thought was just fascinating.
"One of my very dearest friends use to be the Republican precinct chair here. We met in the mid 80's working at the polls. BTW, this is Poppy's old congressional district. She talks about how she and other Republican women worked their asses off to turn this Democratic area to Republican for old Poppy. They did all the things they were asked/expected to do......door-to-door, addressing envelopes, making calls, having bake sales, you know the drill.

Then they watched as the "moral majority" moved in. They listened to the men who told them, "Don't make waves, we need them to win. It's worth it if we are ever going to make Texas a Republican state." So they started making their calls and addressing from home, because the campaign headquarters was so foreign to them. Then came the Republican state convention in Houston in 1988. They stood by horrified as they were denied floor passes, even as volunteers (the delegate spots went to the men and the "moral majority"). They quiet so the Republicans could win Texas, but they lost the party they worked so hard to build during the Democratic years.

Well, Reagan 1984 became the last Republican she and most of her friends voted for for president. She votes for few statewide Republicans, never a Republican for congress and for Senate, only KBH. She feels a sisterhood with (pro-choice) KBH, whom many of the Republican women feel is treated shamefully by the Republican men in Texas, so they won't desert her.

Will she and her friends switch to Democrat? NO!!! They built the Republican party in Texas and by God they are going to fight tooth and nail to get it back. They don't often vote Republican (and NEVER for a Bush). They mostly vote Democrat or skip a race. Meantime, they are very active in AU (Americans United for Separation of Church and State). Also, she stopped running for precinct chair in 1992. She votes absentee, because she refuses to go into the rightwing polling place. For about ten years, she used my fax machine to send and get articles with her Republican women cohorts. Heck, I would read may of them to her over the phone. Let me tell you these women can show you all the links between various politicians and wingnuts. She also passes along the most biting e-mails between her group. You think we have anti-admistration jokes, her's are great. She has managed to get a job working with voter info and she will look up anything I need and pass me info on what she hears. She is going to get her party back, if it means helping Dems to squash the wingnuts, she's there.

So, thats what I learned from the 80's. Don't make concessions. It took decades to get what we have and it can take decades to regain anything we compromise."

This is what happens when we sell out to win at all cost. The cost, of course, is to women.
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efhmc Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu Jul-12-07 01:54 PM
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3. Am I just out of the loop? Is it now okay to elect anti-choice
people and call them Dems just to get them elected.
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