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bliss_eternal Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sat Jun-23-07 09:15 PM
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Ohio woman's body found...
Edited on Sat Jun-23-07 09:18 PM by bliss_eternal
Boyfriend of missing pregnant woman arrested
Body believed to be that of Jessie Davis discovered

Body found in Ohio case
June 23: Authorities say a body believed to be that of missing Ohio mother Jessie Marie Davis was found Saturday, and her boyfriend has been arrested.

CANTON, Ohio - A massive search ended in sadness Saturday when authorities announced they found a body believed to be a pregnant woman who vanished from her home a week earlier. A police officer believed to be the father of the unborn child was arrested on two counts of murder.

Jessie Davis, 26, who was due to deliver a baby girl on July 3, was reported missing after her mother found Davis’ 2-year-old son home alone, bedroom furniture toppled and bleach spilled on the floor.

The boy gave investigators their first clues. “Mommy was crying. Mommy broke the table. Mommy’s in rug,” the boy said.
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taken from:
http://www.msnbc.msn.com/id/19387533/?GT1=10056



...thought I would bring this here for any wanting to discuss it (as opposed to in GD).

I'm also wondering if people are going to be more willing to assert blame on her boyfriend because of his ethnicity (african american). :eyes: Generally when these cases are brought to public attention, it's a caucasian woman with a caucasian boyfriend, husband, significant other.

The usual suspects in GD tend to be reluctant to immediately assume guilt in such cases(of missing pregnant women that turn up dead). I wonder if they'll be quicker to do so in this case. :shrug: You know there are still men that say Scott Peterson was framed? :crazy:

Hate to sound jaded, but I've been on these boards awhile. lol.

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VelmaD Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sat Jun-23-07 11:31 PM
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1. unless the media...
focuses on whether or not the boyfriend is circumcised...I'm not sure it'll get through the noise in GD right now anyway. *snort*

Which is probably a good thing, because I'm sure we both know what kind of response we'd get if we mentioned the statistical likelihood that the boyfriend killed her.
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bliss_eternal Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sun Jun-24-07 12:58 AM
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2. Hey Velma...
...I've been afraid to ask. But since you bring it up....what the hell is with all the circumcision threads, yet again in GD? :shrug: I saw that earlier, but didn't dare enter any. They tend to be the biggest train wrecks.

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ismnotwasm Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sun Jun-24-07 02:55 AM
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3. When talking to a friend of mine
A public defender about the Duke case, one of the things we discussed was white privilege and racism. He assures me both are alive and well in the justice system. I never rule it out as a factor in how cases are tried and convicted, as well as media attention. The very sad thing is, the role race plays is rarely hard to spot, but very easy for so many to deny. (Hearing about "The race card" makes me want to scream)

(That being said, I actually had another thought. They are going to charge him with two counts of murder, one of them for her "unborn child" I haven't been in GD tonight, so I missed any circumcision threads, but as I heard about this on the way home, I thought "Some dickhead is going to tie this in to abortion in GD" I hope I'm wrong)

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noamnety Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sun Jun-24-07 09:26 AM
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4. I'm sure you are right on that last note
I cringed when I heard that as well. I'm not okay with bestowing personhood on a fetus.

I would rather see it tried as one murder + a hate crime, because if being pregnant was a critical reason for the murder, then it was a gender-based crime.
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bliss_eternal Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sun Jun-24-07 07:59 PM
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8. Oh no...
...didn't they do that with the Lacy Peterson case, too? Though (don't quote me as I don't recall specifically) wasn't Lacy much closer to giving birth than this woman? I think Lacy was 8 or almost 9 months along... :shrug:

There's a difference. I think the "powers that be" try this every time a pregnant woman is found dead. :( No matter how far into the gestation/pregnancy cycle it is.
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CrispyQ Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Mon Jun-25-07 04:11 PM
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10. "I'm not okay with bestowing personhood on a fetus."
Why not? We did it with corporations & that's worked out so well for us. :sarcasm:

I think your idea of murder + hate crime is a good solution.
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bliss_eternal Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sun Jun-24-07 07:56 PM
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7. Makes me think of the Charles Stuart case in Boston...
Charles "Chuck" Stuart (ca. 1960–January 4, 1990) was a Boston man who murdered his pregnant wife and inflamed racial tension by blaming a non-existent black suspect.

taken from:
http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Charles_Stuart_(murderer)

There are other more thorough resources on the mess this case created, but this is the fist thing that came up.

It was so much easier for a city, society at large, the police, etc. to believe that Carol Stuart was murdered in cold blood by some horrible black man, than to accept that the murderer was her husband. (The husband committed suicide when he realized that the police knew the truth).

Perhaps my assertions and concern in my op are based on this case, or maybe just what I've seen on these boards. I don't know. But I agree with you friend in the system.

I rue the day that "the race card" was introduced to the vernacular at large. :eyes: May Johnie Cochran rest in peace, I know he was doing his job. But sadly, all it did was make thing tougher for those where such a situation is very much a reality. OJ shared the pigment, but not the background, social experiences and lifestyle of other "black men" in similar circumstances. :(

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Marie26 Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sun Jun-24-07 01:11 PM
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5. What is their problem??
I'm so frustrated, and I truly don't get it. Why can't people acknowledge that pregnant women are more likely to be murdered or abused by their partner?? I always assumed this was common knowledge! But posters seem so eager to deny it, attack people that provide that information, ignore that problem.

When I worked at a domestic violence shelter, so many of the women who came were pregnant. And many times, they said that their abusive boyfriend/husband had become much more violent after they became pregnant. Often, the men would actually kick or punch women in the stomach, trying to harm the baby. Pregnancy is one of the most dangerous times for women who are in an abusive relationship. It's so awful, and the worst part is that people aren't even able to admit to the problem!
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OzarkDem Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sun Jun-24-07 06:57 PM
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6. I don't get it either
Its been a problem for women's rights for a long time. If the same thing happened to a black person or gay man, the progressive community would be up in arms.

But woe to the victim who is a woman - whether caucasian, black, gay or otherwise.

Its a problem I see frequently when advocating for women's health issues - progressive policymakers don't place great weight on problems women face unless its in the context of the larger population.

There's only focus on women's needs if they're children, they're pregnant, they're mothers or they're elderly.

And in the case of violence and murder, being pregnant doesn't seem to matter much, either.

We have to turn it around.

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WildClarySage Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Mon Jun-25-07 12:52 AM
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9. I'm disgusted by the posters who've suggested she was
asking for it by dating a married man who'd been charged with DV before.

Of course, we ALL know it's always HER fault when HE crosses the line...

:sarcasm:
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bliss_eternal Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Mon Jun-25-07 07:10 PM
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11. Geez...
...is there anything women can experience and NOT be blamed for?

:grr::mad:
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