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Innoma Donating Member (224 posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed Aug-03-05 12:20 PM
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Sibel Edmonds & Vanity Fair Article
Anti-War.com had a notice on their blog yesterday that an 11pg Vanity Fair article on Sibel Edmonds would hit the stands today, and that it "promises to have new revelations beyond 'the tip of the iceberg.'" I haven't seen it, and was curious if it came out and if it did indeed contain any new revelations.

Anyone?
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cascadiance Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed Aug-03-05 12:29 PM
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1. I presume that this is the September issue?...
Edited on Wed Aug-03-05 12:34 PM by calipendence
I went over to their site and the currently listed issue is August, but it doesn't have any mention of this article yet. Hopefully they'll update it sometime later today with it out on the stands today.

Some people in another thread here bemoan that it takes a "women's magazine" to do such a serious story on something that the mainstream media should be covering daily. But given the current climate and atmosphere, I think that Vanity Fair is a perfect place to build up a groundswell of support amongst progressive women. It has a lot of other articles on political subjects like Tom Delay, Valerie Plame, etc. and reaches a lot of women that the internet won't. And Sibel Edmonds as a subject is certain to attract attention as a sympathetic figure for a lot of women too.

I can't wait to get my hands on a copy of this. Is it only on newstands in New York today, or might it be at Barnes and Nobles, etc. elsewhere today (or not too long from now)?
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cascadiance Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed Aug-03-05 04:43 PM
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2. More info out now including a PDF link...

From POGO (Project on Government Oversight):

http://pogoblog.typepad.com/pogo/2005/08/vanity_fair_pro.html

Vanity Fair Profiles Sibel Edmonds

The September edition of Vanity Fair hits the news stands today in New York and Los Angeles. Although the media buzz centers on a cover story concerning Jennifer Aniston’s break up with Brad Pitt, deeper inside the magazine is an article more worthy of the public’s attention. Rumor has it that an article by reporter David Rose offers a groundbreaking description of disturbing events at the FBI’s translation unit as observed by former translator Sibel Edmonds. Rose’s sources appear to be among the many authorities to which Edmonds has appealed for help in her journey as a whistleblower. Of greatest concern is the article’s reporting that an FBI counterintelligence investigation into “attempts to bribe elected members of Congress, both Democrat and Republican” was redirected to focus instead on appointed officials.

On this page there's a PDF link to the article on POGO at:

http://pogoblog.typepad.com/pogo/files/vanityfair_clean.pdf

It's on newstands both in L.A. and New York today. On August 9th for everyone else...

Here's the cover to look for:




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cascadiance Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed Aug-03-05 06:21 PM
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3. The big news here is that Dennis Hastert is now implicated...
as a receiver of bribe money.

Further down it is discussed in the Vanity Fair article I just linked, and is also noted here on the Corporate Crime Reporter site:

http://www.corporatecrimereporter.com/hastert080305.htm

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Innoma Donating Member (224 posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu Aug-04-05 10:58 AM
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4. Ah ha! So its finally out...
I always had a feeling Sibel Edmonds had interesting information to share and have been following her case where possible (not that there has been much ado about her story in the media at all, of course). Its good to see some of the information finally seeing the light of day, but its only a beginning (I was beginning to think any info she had would never get out).

All I can say is, hooray for people like Sibel Edmonds and Joe Wilson, and magazines like Vanity Fair (which seems to be doing the job normal news outlets have long since abandoned).
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Mabus Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu Aug-04-05 12:27 PM
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5. I had some questions after reading the article
Edited on Thu Aug-04-05 12:31 PM by Mabus
I originally asked this here http://www.democraticunderground.com/discuss/duboard.php?az=show_mesg&forum=104&topic_id=4257574&mesg_id=4259151
but thought I'd have a better chance of answer here. I'm trying to piece this together for myself, so I apologize if everyone else already knows.

When I first heard of Sibel I heard she was fired for being a 9/11 whistleblower. What I'm not clear on is, according to the VF article Sibel was doing translations of the Turkish Embassy intercepts, right? So what does Turkey, its embassy, the ATC and ATAA, bribes, money laundering, etc have to do with 9/11, ISI (Pakistani intelligence) and Matthew Atta? Here are some quotes.

http://baltimorechronicle.com/050704SibelEdmonds.shtml (published on May 07, 2004)

....JH: Let me read you a short quote from Dr. Griffin's book, quoting from War and Globalization: The Truth Behind September 11 by Michel Chossudovsky and ask you to comment on it. "...The transfer of money to Atta <$325,000>, in conjunction with the presence of the ISI chief in Washington during the week, the missing link behind 9/11....The evidence confirms that al-Qaeda is supported by Pakistan's ISI (and it is amply documented that) the ISI owes its existence to the CIA."

SE: I cannot comment on that. But I can tell that once, and if, and when this issue gets to be, under real terms, investigated, you will be seeing certain people that we know from this country standing trial; and they will be prosecuted criminally.

<snip>

JH: Here's a question that you might be able to answer: What is al-Qaeda?

SE: This is a very interesting and complex question. When you think of al-Qaeda, you are not thinking of al-Qaeda in terms of one particular country, or one particular organization. You are looking at this massive movement that stretches to tens and tens of countries. And it involves a lot of sub-organizations and sub-sub-organizations and branches and it's extremely complicated. So to just narrow it down and say al-Qaeda and the Saudis, or to say it's what they had at the camp in Afghanistan, is extremely misleading. And we don't hear the extent of the penetration that this organization and the sub-organizations have throughout the world, throughout their networks and throughout their various activities. It's extremely sophisticated. And then you involve a significant amount of money into this equation. Then things start getting a lot of overlap-- money laundering, and drugs and terrorist activities and their support networks converging in several points. That's what I'm trying to convey without being too specific. And this money travels. And you start trying to go to the root of it and it's getting into somebody's political campaign, and somebody's lobbying. And people don't want to be traced back to this money. (Emphasis added by me.)

edited to add said emphasis


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cascadiance Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Mon Jun-26-06 06:17 PM
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6. mistaken post...
Edited on Mon Jun-26-06 06:20 PM by calipendence
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