Should we hate Bush voters or forgive them?

[DesEtoiles]

[DanCa]

1. I have a chronic illness and they are against stem cell research.

You tell me :confused:

[Robbie Michaels]

2. I'll Forgive Them For Their Ignorance, But

I won't forget what they did or said. I'll be nice and I won't tell them "We told you so but you wouldn't listen." :evilgrin:

[951-Riverside]

3. I'd love to give them one of these

http://playground.dailyjolt.com/~american/sucker.mov

*crunch*

[0007]

38. You made my Sunday morning so fucking beautiful.

I love the South South expression of the woman on the left. Priceless.

[0007]

44. I've played this several time and still can hear what the lady said.

[cynatnite]

4. I'll forgive if they realize the error of their ways...

but if they haven't changed their minds by now, I doubt they ever will.

[cascadiance]

22. I forgive the ignorant, but NOT the hypocrites!

If they truely didn't know what Bush's been doing to hurt all of our futures, and when confronted with reality they "see the light" and change their ways (or at least are more humble about their positions and entertain new ideas), those people I will forgive.

But those who knowingly support this bum and his consequences and are hypocritical in the process of their support for him, I have NO forgiveness for NOR forgetfulness for either.

And time IS running out for the ignorant. The excuse of being ignorant of the truth, as it is becoming more exposed each day now, is less available to these people.

Feigning ignorance is it's own form of hypocrisy, and is in some ways worse than just being fundamentally hypocritical in one's views.

There are very few Republicans that aren't hypocrites. Perhaps there are some very wealthy people that are just honest in their selfishness about desiring society treat them like royalty, but they are likely hypocrites when talking about their support for religious dogma, which many probably don't support, or if they do, then they are religious hypocrites for supporting it, when Jesus wouldn't support them taking those stances. Those that aren't rich that support them are hypocrites for not seeing how most of the legislation that's welfare to the rich isn't hurting them and the rest of Americans, unless they somehow believe in their own slavery, just to support their views of religious dogma.

[babylonsister]

5. Forgive them quickly, and encourage them to vote the right way.

No holding grudges; this is serious stuff now.

[Charlie Brown]

6. what is the alternative to forgiveness?

Are we supposed to have Bush-supporters arrested or purged? What are the consequences if we do not forgive?

If we want to remain committed to liberty and freedom for everyone, we pretty much have to forgive our ideological enemies.

[WinkyDink]

46. How about: work to negate their votes?

[pat_k]

7. Hate 'em or love 'em, we can save ourselves a lot of grief . . .

. . .if we "get" a few things about them

http://www.democraticunderground.com/discuss/duboard.php?az=show_topic&forum=364&topic_id=967834#968101

[rpannier]

8. As my mother would say

"Forgive, but never forget."
I don't mean hold it over their heads. Just quietly remember and keep it to ourselves in case this same scenario begins to unfold.

[DFW]

9. Hating a Bush voter

That is sort of like hating someone who sends in their life savings to
a televangelist or buys unnecessary and ineffective insurance they saw
advertised on TV.

They fell for carefully packaged false advertising. People don't like to
be told they were taken in by a con man. Pride is a strange emotion, and
there will always be people who will cling to a position long shown to be
false, for the sole reason that they think that admitting they were wrong is
worse.

The ones who cling to their position in public but know it in private are
to be pitied, but not hated. The ones who cling to their love of Bush despite
knowing all the facts may not be worthy of hate, but are definitely deserving
of a large dose of wary apprehension.

[johnnypneumatic]

10. never forgive and never forget

the republican party deserves to be stamped out forever as the treasonous assholes they are
nixon, reagan, and now bush, they always lead to damage, and the destruction of america
it is a failed ideology, a failed morality
whenever it is in power it leads to war and destruction

[Random_Australian]

11. Forgive, but still try to convert.

[Oversea Visitor]

12. I am NEUTRAL

But please do not end up like them
with illogical blind hate

Someone need to unite this country again

[dipsydoodle]

13. You should forgive people

once only. If they were stupid enough to vote for him twice then ****'em.

[Nicole]

14. Love the sinner but hate the sin

Isn't that the line they use all the time? :evilgrin:

I think some of them already hate themselves for voting for him. My hate isn't going to change a thing but my forgiveness might. It might help them see things in a different light.

[Appalachian_American]

15. Bush voters that STILL support him hate you and everyone else here,

that's for sure. I feel indifferent toward those people. I don't hate them. I just don't give a crap about them.

[LiberalPartisan]

17. They should be exiled, deported, expelled!!!! n/t

[sweetheart]

16. stupid conservatives

“I never meant to say that the Conservatives are generally stupid.
I meant to say that stupid people are generally Conservative.”

- John Stewart Mill


Stupidity is no blessing, and is not forgiven.

[radfringe]

18. as a bushism...

"forgive them they know not what they didded...errr..do'd...ahhh not what they know they are doing....ummm...we gotta defeat the terrorists...."

[Peter Frank]

19. Stupid question - for at least 2 reasons...

Hating any voter assumes that the politics of hate is valid.

The idea of "forgiving" a voter convicts the "forgiver" of the very same mentality being opposed.

You were being facetious, right?

[Hubert Flottz]

20. Well...

Yes and NO!

[iconoclastic cat]

21. I feel absolutely nothing for them.

nt

[porphyrian]

23. Yes.

They are responsible for putting these traitors in office.

They are still capable of working to fix their mistake.

[BooScout]

24. Ask me again in 10 years....

Right now I am still too angry at the fucking idiots for contributing to the near ruin of America. A near ruin that we will be lucky to get out of in a generation's lifetime if we even in fact ever recover from it.

I know the old adage that you can forgive but not forget....but at this moment in time I can do neither. The fact that 1/3 of the country still supports that bastard sitting in the WH is proof to me that the battle to take back our country has not been won by a long shot. Not to mention Bush is still in office, we are still at war in Iraq and talking of going to war against Iran. This ain't over yet and I am not going to consider forgiving anyone until it's well over and been over for a while.

[bklyncowgirl]

25. As a (lapsed) CatholicI believe in the forgiveness of sins.

The catch is that the sinner must be actually sorry for his sins and vow to sin no more.

[graywarrior]

26. When I sit behind a Bush Cheney sticker, my blood boils,

so I guess I'm still pissed at them.

[cascadiance]

29. I want to drive ahead of them so they can see my "impeach Bush" sticker!

[riona]

27. If they still support him,

the best I can do is avoid their company if possible.

[Joe Chi Minh]

28. Hate what they stand for and lament their plight.

[seabeyond]

30. i dont "hate" anyone. i also dont have a lot of respect for people that

are still supporting bush, or that helped to get him in with a vote, especially '04

[BooScout]

32. I used to say I didn't hate anyone too....

...even Bush in the early days.......I would say I hated his policies.......I'm beyond that now.....I hate his fucking guts and will until the day I die.

[Libby2]

31. I hate 'em and I'm not forgiving them. (nt)

[Radio_Guy]

33. I'll forgive them only after Bush leaves office

They put him there, so as long as we have to live under his thumb, I can not forgive. But if they help get another repug elected, I will continue to hate them. If they see the error of their ways and vote for a progressive, I will embrace them.

[abluelady]

34. Where Does Pity Fit Into Your Question?

I look at these people and feel so sorry for them for being such morons. Maybe pity and forgiveness are close?

[MyNameGoesHere]

35. I really

ponder this sometimes. My first reaction is neither. They should be rounded up after we gain control and sent to prison camps. Each to be issued a copy of the constitution. They weill be freed when they renew their allegiance to the American way of life as presented in said document.

Forgive? NEVER!

[justice1]

36. You don't thrive on neglect.

How much time and money did the National Democratic Party spend in areas that voted predominately Bush?

[stray cat]

37. It depends if you really believe in progressive values

Riginess, hatred and self-righteousness isn't limited to the extreme right. My opinion is that progressive values means putting people first and openmindedness for opposing points of view.

[WA98296]

39. We should Hold them Accountable

[Toots]

40. "and by liberal things shall he stand"...Isaiah 32:8

I believe most Liberals believe what Jesus had to say whether they are religious or not. It is just a decent way to treat others. You forgive and always remember honey attracts more flies than vinegar. Republicans believe and believe strongly "it is better to be feared than loved" Jesus never believed that and neither do Liberals.

[in_cog_ni_to]

41. I would have forgiven after them voting for him ONCE, but not TWICE.

Never will I forgive them for supporting that psycho. Look what they've done to this country. They're all TRAITORS, IMCPO.

[SammyWinstonJack]

42. Hate them and I wish it were only they who are affected by their

pResident's selfish/evil policies and illegal war/s. Too bad that isn't the case.

[WinkyDink]

43. Forgive??? Don't have it in me---UNLESS they ASK, nay, BEG

for forgiveness.
Confessing one's sins and vowing never to repeat them is a step in that direction.
Then they can change parties.
In front of me.

[indie_voter]

45. Banish them to irrelevance. n/t